46 minutes ago, Gannan said:

To be fair, the idea was that Thybulle after the Olympics was going to take this big step forward this year and Green would go back to being a role player coming off the bench. Thybulle actually got worse as the season went on.  The fact that Thybulle, Shake, and Kork all got worse this year instead of better was a huge part of the failure that was this season.  I don't expect any of them to be back next year. 

I don't think international play and the hope of building confidence there is the career boost it is made out to be.  They have to practice in the role that team wants them in. 

Individual development is not focused on at all.  I think that was horrible for Thybulle. 

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I still say Julius Randle.

And Harden for Beal.

Yeah don’t see that happening from the wizards side of things. Not enough assets going to the wizards to do it as harden is a diminishing return, thybulle lost value and the sixers really don’t have draft picks they can afford to give up after the Simmons deal. 

that said I don’t think it was a coincidence that there was a leak saying Joel Embiid preferred Bradley Beal over James Harden a couple weeks ago. I think that was put out there with a purpose. I say that there’s a potential rift going on behind the scenes but I don’t think Its provable but i could see jt formulating. The fact that he said he can’t believe we let Jimmy Butler go right after a season ending loss seems like a shot to the sixers ownership and front office for allowing that to happen and listening to what Simmons wanted and not what he wanted at that time. I also don’t think it was a coincidence that he took a shot at James Harden last night because he really doesn’t care if harden gets offended as he’s annoyed and not thrilled to be playing with James Harden when he could’ve been playing Bradley Beal who he preferred. 

1 hour ago, nipples said:

It might be time to blow the whole thing up…

Harden and Harris both need to go. Doc needs to be fired. I’d be 100% on board with getting rid of anyone other than Maxey… that includes Embiid. 
 

Embiid is obviously a great player, but they are in a position where I just don’t see a path to putting a championship team around him in the next 2-3 years. And by then he is almost sure to be on a major decline. It may be best for the team to move him to rebuild the roster, and frankly they’d be doing him a favor if they send him to a more favorable situation. 
 

I would HATE to see him go. But Embiid holds a ton of value as a trade chip. I think you seriously consider gutting the team, and keeping Maxey as a potential future star for the long-term. 
 

The alternative is to keep Embiid and try to trade Harris and Harden, but I just don’t see them bringing the type of value that will move the needle at all. 

Agreed.  I wouldn’t be opposed to them seeing what they can get for Embiid.  It’ll at least shorten the rebuild because you’d get a hell of a package.  I love Embiid but he’s always hurt at the worst times and it’s been several years now that it’s been the case.

5 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Agreed.  I wouldn’t be opposed to them seeing what they can get for Embiid.  It’ll at least shorten the rebuild because you’d get a hell of a package.  I love Embiid but he’s always hurt at the worst times and it’s been several years now that it’s been the case.

The sixers will never do it until embiid asks to deal him. Not that i wouldn’t consider it. Love embiid but he’s going to ask to be traded at some point cause this roster is doomed due to lack of assets and cap space. So it’s eventually coming. It’s a matter of when he does it. Now is peak value for embiid. 2 years likely getting less with wear and tear and embiid possible decline and demanding out. Frankly if they deal embiid and hit a homerun type deal now it helps with the rebuild. If they do it down the road likely less of a return and maxey is in the situation jrue was in with the pre-process sixers which is a fringe playoff team that didn’t have title aspirations. 

i think this off-season is huge and wouldn't be shocked if we see embiid request a trade if things don't improve...maybe not right away but possibly at the deadline or next off-season if the roster isn't working out.

11 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

All the more reason to trade Harris now. Trade Hardin. Fire Rivers.

At this point, I'm all for deleting the mentally and physically weak players from the team, and adding mentally and physically strong players. How do they do it? Well, let's see how good Morey really is. He can get stars to come to his teams, but can he get tough role players like  Marcus Smart, Tucker, types- that will battle come playoff time? That's what the team needs. TOUGH, fearless players who will battle you in the playoffs.

4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i think this off-season is huge and wouldn't be shocked if we see embiid request a trade if things don't improve...maybe not right away but possibly at the deadline or next off-season if the roster isn't working out.

I was having those same thoughts. If he starts to think ownership and the GM can't get things right, he is moving on. If he believes in them, and they make moves to get tough players on the team, he stays and rides it out.

14 hours ago, Texas Eagle said:

No other teams are touching anyone other than Embiid/Maxey. I meant Harden will find a home but we’re stuck with Tobias.

I think we all would be surprised how many teams would take a Harden, Harris , Thybulle, etc. Teams WILL take those guys,  because the NBA is a weird place where things like that happen all the time. Example: Westbrook to LA? Impossible, yet....

7 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i think this off-season is huge and wouldn't be shocked if we see embiid request a trade if things don't improve...maybe not right away but possibly at the deadline or next off-season if the roster isn't working out.

If he’s hurt for the playoffs next year, I’d be all for trading Embiid.

I'm starting to think it doesn't matter as long Bucks have a prime Giannis and he is healthy. He is only 27 so at least another 5 years. 

38 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

I think we all would be surprised how many teams would take a Harden, Harris , Thybulle, etc. Teams WILL take those guys,  because the NBA is a weird place where things like that happen all the time. Example: Westbrook to LA? Impossible, yet....

And if you're willing to take a reasonable return rather than what Morey would likely ask for in return. 

We all know Embiid wanted Beal so that is the hope right now for Sixers fans. Somehow they get that done. 

27 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

i think this off-season is huge and wouldn't be shocked if we see embiid request a trade if things don't improve...maybe not right away but possibly at the deadline or next off-season if the roster isn't working out.

Been my thoughts for a while now. I think there’s already some writing on the wall with embiid that it’s not going to happen here and he’s irritated. I really believe he wanted to play with beal over harden. That’s why that story leaked out. I think the butler mention last night was a calculated shot by him and butler doing it as well was a shot to the sixers ownership. 

47 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

I think we all would be surprised how many teams would take a Harden, Harris , Thybulle, etc. Teams WILL take those guys,  because the NBA is a weird place where things like that happen all the time. Example: Westbrook to LA? Impossible, yet....

With Harris contract having 2 years left, you are going to have to give up some asset(s) for someone take it on or you are going to receive bad contracts back. The problem is he has 2 years left. If you waited to the deadline this upcoming season or the 2023 offseason then someone would do it as an expiring contract and his contract has more value. 

47 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

I'm starting to think it doesn't matter as long Bucks have a prime Giannis and he is healthy. He is only 27 so at least another 5 years. 

Bucks are primed to be good for a while. However if the sixers had embiid, Simmons actually developed his shot and maxey becomes the star we think then the sixers would really just need to add role players around those 3 to be able to compete. Would’ve been awesome series to continuously watch. Unfortunately Ben is an idiot and didnt care too. The sixers poor job over the years has killed the depth and roster. And they still need to find that secondary star/scorer to go with embiid and maxey. 

42 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Been my thoughts for a while now. I think there’s already some writing on the wall with embiid that it’s not going to happen here and he’s irritated. I really believe he wanted to play with beal over harden. That’s why that story leaked out. I think the butler mention last night was a calculated shot by him and butler doing it as well was a shot to the sixers ownership. 

agreed. 

Its not the first time Embiid commented on Butler's play either. Just like he begnan to do with Ben, he repeatedly said we need Harden to be more aggressive. Wasnt just last night.

 

Meanwhile, Steven A wants an investigation in to Harden because 22 minutes in the 2nd half with 1 shot attempt "stinks" and he smells something. He is implying, as has been done before, that Harden is trying to get Doc fired, because Harden and Embiid both want D'Antoni as coach.

 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

agreed. 

Its not the first time Embiid commented on Butler's play either. Just like he begnan to do with Ben, he repeatedly said we need Harden to be more aggressive. Wasnt just last night.

 

Meanwhile, Steven A wants an investigation in to Harden because 22 minutes in the 2nd half with 1 shot attempt "stinks" and he smells something. He is implying, as has been done before, that Harden is trying to get Doc fired, because Harden and Embiid both want D'Antoni as coach.

 

I do believe embiid and harden would like doc gone. It’s been his issue with players since the clippers days. If they hire D’Antoni we might as well just trade embiid now because they’re not winning anything with that coach either. You’re just compounding one hiring mistake with a second hiring mistake.  

This press conference doc comes off like such a know it all dbag. 

morey keeping things super close to the vest about his intentions besides flat out asked if doc would be back next year. He said yes and he loves working with him and Elton. Learns a lot from him and vice versa  

love maxey. Called doc around 1 am about what his plans were for next week starting his offseason activities to get better for next year. Apparently he was one for the most crushed in the locker. That kid is amazing. Hopefully we don’t waste his career. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This press conference doc comes off like such a know it all dbag. 

morey keeping things super close to the vest about his intentions besides flat out asked if doc would be back next year. He said yes and he loves working with him and Elton. Learns a lot from him and vice versa  

love maxey. Called doc around 1 am about what his plans were for next week starting his offseason activities to get better for next year. Apparently he was one for the most crushed in the locker. That kid is amazing. Hopefully we don’t waste his career. 

That’s exactly why I have no doubt that Maxey will soon be a perennial all star. Kid just gets it. He’ll come in next season even better than he was in year 2. 

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This press conference doc comes off like such a know it all dbag. 

morey keeping things super close to the vest about his intentions besides flat out asked if doc would be back next year. He said yes and he loves working with him and Elton. Learns a lot from him and vice versa  

love maxey. Called doc around 1 am about what his plans were for next week starting his offseason activities to get better for next year. Apparently he was one for the most crushed in the locker. That kid is amazing. Hopefully we don’t waste his career. 

Morey is a POS like the owner and Doc. That seals it that there is nothing to look forward to next year.

Sounds like we are running it back with a slightly different bench.

To me Bucks have great odds to win it all. 

20 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

To me Bucks have great odds to win it all. 

Celtics if they win tonight aren’t horrible gamble to take at that number.

College guys, is this draft suppose to be deep? Any guys in the 10-15 range that could solve one of our many issues? Maybe we could do a Toby/Matisse package for a pick and a few players. Just trying to think outside the box a bit. I can’t believe the piss poor effort back to back. I couldn’t sleep at all and I’m off work drinking already. Yay Philly Sports!

Already don’t care about next year if they are just running it back with Doc.  It’s just not going to work.  I’d almost rather they trade Embiid at this point because he’s not winning anything here.