6 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Sanders needs to clean things up though.

I agree he does need to clean things up but it seemed to be something with Wentz. The number of dropped screen passes Sanders had with Wentz was insane. But once Hurts took over that improved. 

And that's not a dig at Wentz, it just didn't seem to click between them. 

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

Agreed.  I don't want to automatically write him off, and am with you in that I do want to bring in competition (where we differ in opinion is where/when we address that).  But in no way am I anointing him anything or just handing him the starting spot.  

yeah, and if you bring in a round 1 pick he WILL start and the drama at QB starts all over before you even know what Hurts can offer with a DECENT team to work with 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I agree he does need to clean things up but it seemed to be something with Wentz. The number of dropped screen passes Sanders had with Wentz was insane. But once Hurts took over that improved. 

And that's not a dig at Wentz, it just didn't seem to click between them. 

Read something awhile back it had to do with how they threw the ball... Wentz didn’t give his screen as much touch basically always threw the fast ball where Hurts didn’t. 
 

Not sure how accurate a claim that is but players will definitely tell you some guys throw a more catchable ball. 

3 hours ago, time2rock said:

Haha no doubt!  We debate with each other and in some cases try to shove opinions down each others throats about what we feel is best and in the end watch Howie draft a 3rd rd rated DE in the 1st because he is smarter than the average bear. 

 

That's the scenario lol. We're all trying to prove we are smarter than Howie on draft choices. Which isn't really hard because we ARE!!!! Some people,like Lurie, just need a high 5.......upside da haid with a chair

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Literally means nothing the other guys you mentioned. Hurts can’t compete if we draft a QB still??? Nobody said Hurts had to be anything but we can’t draft a QB I the first because we have hurts..... yea that makes sense 

LMAO OH your going to spend a first then sit him??? The fans would like that???? You are the one not making sense

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I really like our OL Semaulo isn’t flashy but we rarely hear his name either which to me is a good thing usually only talk OL when they mess up lol.

LT is the big concern to me not sold on Mailata yet and Dillard still unknown can one of them step up. But the other 4 spots feel good about 

OC will most definitely be an issue of Kelce hangs em up (which seems like >50% of happening).  Not sold on Seumalo taking the reigns from him if he does.  

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO OH your going to spend a first then sit him??? The fans would like that???? You are the one not making sense

I'm drafting Pitts, then I'm going to sit him because you know we have Goedert and he's good

5 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Read something awhile back it had to do with how they threw the ball... Wentz didn’t give his screen as much touch basically always threw the fast ball where Hurts didn’t. 
 

Not sure how accurate a claim that is but players will definitely tell you some guys throw a more catchable ball. 

It is accurate ... you saw it with your own eyes. I can’t tell you how many times I commented on that during games.  It was frustrating af.  Or he’d sail a ball 4 feet over the head of his target on those WR screens.  He basically had a cannon of an arm but lacked both touch and accuracy.  

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO OH your going to spend a first then sit him??? The fans would like that???? You are the one not making sense

Mcnabb didn’t sit as a rookie??? Fans can get pissy all they want won’t matter if the teams get a QB 

2 hours ago, jsb235 said:

A pretty good look at the qb class this year.

2021 NFL Draft QB rankings - Fantasy Columns (nbcsports.com)

He has them ranked Lawrence, Fields, Lance and Wilson, and says Lance's upside is pretty huge considering how little college experience he has. I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade up to 4 to grab a qb.

If they roll with Hurts, this guy thinks Kellen Mond makes a lot of sense as a backup since he has a lot of the same qualities and could step in and run the offense. Mond will probably be available in the fifth round, and he seems like he would be worth it there. 

Fine with taking a QB at 2, 5 or even 2,3 UDFA's. I want competition for Hurts, but I'm not taking a QB first which would immediately relegate him to the BU role and start another QB controversy when the new "golden boy" had a bad game. Sick of drama, just give me some solid players

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Mcnabb didn’t sit as a rookie??? Fans can get pissy all they want won’t matter if the teams get a QB 

Did we have an already established QB then???? Under a NON rook contract. Apples to Oranges reach there bud

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Did we have an already established QB then???? Under a NON rook contract. Apples to Oranges reach there bud

Do we have an established QB under center now that I’m missing??? 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Do we have an established QB under center now that I’m missing??? 

If you have an established QB of course the rook may sit(like HURTS DID????) if you draft a QB in 1,that is not competition, THAT is your STARTER. Would I draft Pitts,then make him sit behind Goedert? Would I draft Chase and make him sit behind Ward?

9 minutes ago, time2rock said:

It is accurate ... you saw it with your own eyes. I can’t tell you how many times I commented on that during games.  It was frustrating af.  Or he’d sail a ball 4 feet over the head of his target on those WR screens.  He basically had a cannon of an arm but lacked both touch and accuracy.  

I watched the video and some of the drops were definitely on short passes that were rifled past the receiver that could have used some more touch, especially to Sanders. But Hightower dropped two beauties from Wentz where he was wide open and should have resulted in huge plays. Which makes me hopeful that he will be able to turn things around because he does a really good job of getting open deep.

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you have an established QB of course the rook may sit(like HURTS DID????) if you draft a QB in 1,that is not competition, THAT is your STARTER. Would I draft Pitts,then make him sit behind Goedert? Would I draft Chase and make him sit behind Ward?

Pitta isn’t beating out Geodart as the starting TE if we drafted him. So yea he is going to be TE2 or a WR. 
 

As for drafting the QB yes it’s competition you let guys battle there is no rule says the rookie first rounder has to start. Herbert didn’t start day 1 as a rookie, Baker didn’t start, Mahomes, Rodgers Goff didn’t start, Wentz wasn’t planned to start as a rookie.

Mcnabb sat behind Doug Pederson such an established QB.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Pitta isn’t beating out Geodart as the starting TE if we drafted him. So yea he is going to be TE2 or a WR. 
 

LMFAO

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

As for drafting the QB yes it’s competition you let guys battle there is no rule says the rookie first rounder has to start. Herbert didn’t start day 1 as a rookie, Baker didn’t start, Mahomes, Rodgers Goff didn’t start, Wentz wasn’t planned to start as a rookie

All these guys were behind entrenched starters???? aka heir apparents. If we had Wentz still and his career was winding down, then your point would be valid. But that is not the case is it?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

All these guys were behind entrenched starters???? aka heir apparents. If we had Wentz still and his career was winding down, then your point would be valid. But that is not the case is it?

Who is our entrenched starter???? Nobody you keep flip flopping back and forth acting like you are making a point but your not.

We have no proven starter neither did the teams I mentioned and they still sat a first round rookie QB.

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Who is our entrenched starter???? Nobody you keep flip flopping back and forth acting like you are making a point but your not.

We have no proven starter neither did the teams I mentioned and they still sat a first round rookie QB.

Didn't say we did, I SAID if you took a QB in round 1 THAT IS YOUR STARTER(because you know we have no entrenched starter???). If he's NOT,why the hell did you spend a round 1 pick on him????

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Didn't say we did, I SAID if you took a QB in round 1 THAT IS YOUR STARTER(because you know we have no entrenched starter???). If he's NOT,why the hell did you spend a round 1 pick on him????

So why wasn’t Herbert a day 1 starter or Mcnabb??? Who was the entrenched starter for them why were they drafted round 1 

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We have no proven starter neither did the teams I mentioned and they still sat a first round rookie QB.

Because they were already paying someone millions of dollars????(See Wentz and this is why he was not pulled in week 4?????)

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because they were already paying someone millions of dollars????

Doug Pederson pretty sure Mcnabb came into the league making more then him.... Herbert was making around the same as Tyler. 

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Doug Pederson pretty sure Mcnabb came into the league making more then him.... Herbert was making around the same as Tyler. 

OK I can explain it, but I can't make you understand it which obviously you do not.  You are taking a QB at 6, I am not, thats all we need to know

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

OK I can explain it, but I can't make you understand it which obviously you do not.  You are taking a QB at 6, I am not, thats all we need to know

Lmao because your making no sense at all... Mcnabb was #2 pick sat behind Doug Pederson why is that??? We didn’t have an entrenched starter he wasn’t making more and we drafted Mcnabb in round 1 by your logic he should have had to be the starter 

42 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Read something awhile back it had to do with how they threw the ball... Wentz didn’t give his screen as much touch basically always threw the fast ball where Hurts didn’t. 
 

Not sure how accurate a claim that is but players will definitely tell you some guys throw a more catchable ball. 

I mean I can believe that. Wentz did seem to struggle with the screen. It was very ineffective with Wentz. Some QBs do things better than others. Wentz did some things other QBs couldn't.