2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Any thoughts on the documents being there? Any thoughts on the president taking them, lying about them, saying he turned them all over but actually not doing so?

 

Anything?

"Not good, but I still really like his policies so I have no choice but to vote for him!" 

Just don't tell them they're in a cult though, that would be completely uncalled for.

@Talonblood called in some of his friends of the black race to advise Procus on his topics.

 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Maybe they knew the nature of the documents, but not necessarily how sensitive the information was until they retrieved it. 

I think the warrant was an entirely separate level of escalation, and if the reports about the informant and possible documents containing information about nuclear weapons are accurate, then it fits perfectly in line with the motivation to act urgently once this came to the FBI's attention. Now whether they actually found any materials of that nature is yet to be confirmed. Unfortunately, we're still flying a bit blind on this and we're left to speculate until more details emerge. Unsealing the warrant might help a little bit, but it will probably take a while before we find out exactly what he still had in his possession on the day of the raid.

I'm guessing that even the inventory of what was seized will be redacted for truly sensitive material. Just something non-specific.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

As I mentioned last night it's obviously possible, but if true it raises some questions.

They went there months ago looking for them, were shown a room of boxes that could have contained them, and left them there for months only asking them to put a padlock on them??? Documents that sensitive??

They get the warrant to go after these highly sensitive documents and wait 72 hours before serving it??

Exigency would be out the window with those delays if they believed something that sensitive was there and our secrets were at risk.

 

So, basically, we don't know if it's true. But if it is, it's everyone else's fault except Trump.

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

So, basically, we don't know if it's true. But if it is, it's everyone else's fault except Trump.

Give him some credit, he is putting a ton of effort into these explanations of his.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

He didn't like how it went so he deleted it? 

Now that's cancel culture. 

 

1 hour ago, mayanh8 said:

@Procus

Small d**k energy, dude. Total loser move. Definitely wouldn't have expected that from an attorney. 

JC these 2

They gave Trump months to return everything. All things he never should have had outside the White House. 

I believe there were multiple trips to Mar-A-Lago to retrieve classified documents previously.

Keep in mind, Trump is not exactly a voracious reader. It's not like his trashy Florida White House was likely full of classified material while he was president, because there was nobody there reading it.

The DoJ worked with Trump for a long time on the down low. Even this search of Mar-A-Lago happened all day - from the morning to 8pm - and was nearly completed with no media coverage until some bozo at the resort realized what was up and alerted the media. 

If the DoJ had its way it never would have made the news that they actually had to obtain a warrant to get classified secrets from a former president. That's the deference that even a guy who committed traitorous acts gets because he accidented into the presidency. 

If they were trying to make this political there would have been much more known leading up to it. 

2 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

So, basically, we don't know if it's true. But if it is, it's everyone else's fault except Trump.

First it was "how could you possibly raid a former Presidents home?"  Now its "why did you wait so long to raid a former Presidents home?"

1 minute ago, barho said:

First it was "how could you possibly raid a former Presidents home?"  Now its "why did you wait so long to raid a former Presidents home?"

 Shades of WV Mike complaining about Biden not killing Al-Zawahiri fast enough. 

4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

If they were trying to make this political there would have been much more known leading up to it. 

They said they were specifically trying NOT to make it political.  They completely underestimated the fallout if that is true.

1 minute ago, barho said:

First it was "how could you possibly raid a former Presidents home?"  Now its "why did you wait so long to raid a former Presidents home?"

Well, the bar has to keep moving until you get to the right narrative.

Sooner or later it will morph into how Trump was trying to tell America the truth about Hillary and Benghazi and how it was all done with help from a small pizza shop and the FBI is trying to cover it all up.

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

 Shades of WV Mike complaining about Biden not killing Al-Zawahiri fast enough. 

That happened? 

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

They said they were specifically trying NOT to make it political.  They completely underestimated the fallout if that is true.

They almost managed to complete the search without anyone finding out.

The agents were in plain clothes. Then weren't noticed for most of the day.

Seriously @Procus, you really thought that a new thread wouldn’t get started 30 seconds after you deleted yours, and we wouldn’t  all call you out for being a sensitive little snowflake

So did he object to them releasing it?

8 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

That happened? 

Yep, completely oblivious to his own admission that limp d**k Trump had 4 years to do the deed and failed.

6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

They almost managed to complete the search without anyone finding out.

The agents were in plain clothes. Then weren't noticed for most of the day.

The news would have been our hours after they were finished had they managed to conclude without being seen.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So did he object to them releasing it?

They have until 3pm I think. So far, not that I've seen.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

The news would have been our hours after they were finished had they managed to conclude without being seen.

If the report is accurate about the reason for the warrant, then what other choice did they have? 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So did he object to them releasing it?

We won't know officially until after 3pm EDT when the DOJ tells the judge if they are objecting. Donnie is saying he supports the release, but that ignores that (i) he could actually release it right now and (ii) he has a habit of lying about these things (see tax returns).

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The news would have been our hours after they were finished had they managed to conclude without being seen.

Maybe. Trump knew much earlier than Twitter did, which makes it seem like he wanted to keep it quiet as well. 

If the feds had left and nobody at Mar-A-Lago was the wiser, who knows if it would have been revealed, and when.

Just now, vikas83 said:

We won't know officially until after 3pm EDT when the DOJ tells the judge if they are objecting. Donnie is saying he supports the release, but that ignores that (i) he could actually release it right now and (ii) he has a habit of lying about these things (see tax returns).

Good chance he continues with the "I really want it to be released but it can't happen due to ...reasons..."

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Maybe. Trump knew much earlier than Twitter did, which makes it seem like he wanted to keep it quiet as well. 

If the feds had left and nobody at Mar-A-Lago was the wiser, who knows if it would have been revealed, and when.

Would have come out eventually no matter what and I'd say much sooner than later.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If the report is accurate about the reason for the warrant, then what other choice did they have? 

I wouldn't have been surprised to see this DoJ not prosecute it further if they were confident they had all the classified material. 

The manner they conducted the case suggests they were trying to minimize public knowledge.

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Maybe. Trump knew much earlier than Twitter did, which makes it seem like he wanted to keep it quiet as well. 

If the feds had left and nobody at Mar-A-Lago was the wiser, who knows if it would have been revealed, and when.

Huh? Trump was the first person to announce it publicly on his Truth Social account.