Quez Watkins

[brkmsn]

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

 Whatever the reason is we really won’t know what’s up with this guy until the pads come on. 

Sometimes things are simply exactly what they appear to be. Watkins appeared to be a young player on the rise. Then last season his role was changed with the arrival of AJ Brown. Then he got hurt, played hurt, but played soft. Before his injury, the only big "terrible" mistake he made was the fumble vs the commanders. The funny thing about that play was instead of just taking the "soft" route and staying down, he aggressively got back to his feet hoping to make a big play even bigger. I have no idea what you guys were yelling in real time, but I was off the couch yelling, "Get up! Get up!" In the end it was just one of those fluke things. The defender made an aggressive play for the ball and got lucky. Stuff happens. That was his one fumble in 3 seasons. After the injury, he played much different --- clearly tentative ... not physical at all and just trying to protect himself. After seeing the recovery time and the mandated change in playstyle the coaching staff put on Jalen with his shoulder injury, and with their own philosophy being stated repeatedly that the players' well being is always at the forefront, I'm pretty sure that Watkins was out there playing at less than 100% to be mostly a decoy. Despite the obvious mistakes he made some of the times he was targeted, the coaches still spoke highly of his importance at drawing some coverage away and opening things up for Smith and Brown. 

 

TL;DR

Quez is a young player that was making strides. He suffered an injury, played with it and it affected his performance negatively. Now he's 100% again. It's not that hard to believe he'll rebound --- especially when his coaches and teammates support and believe in him. If anybody last season understands what Quez was dealing with (injury-wise), it's Jalen Hurts.

[EazyEaglez]

On 6/20/2023 at 4:48 PM, brkmsn said:

Sometimes things are simply exactly what they appear to be. Watkins appeared to be a young player on the rise. Then last season his role was changed with the arrival of AJ Brown. Then he got hurt, played hurt, but played soft. Before his injury, the only big "terrible" mistake he made was the fumble vs the commanders. The funny thing about that play was instead of just taking the "soft" route and staying down, he aggressively got back to his feet hoping to make a big play even bigger. I have no idea what you guys were yelling in real time, but I was off the couch yelling, "Get up! Get up!" In the end it was just one of those fluke things. The defender made an aggressive play for the ball and got lucky. Stuff happens. That was his one fumble in 3 seasons. After the injury, he played much different --- clearly tentative ... not physical at all and just trying to protect himself. After seeing the recovery time and the mandated change in playstyle the coaching staff put on Jalen with his shoulder injury, and with their own philosophy being stated repeatedly that the players' well being is always at the forefront, I'm pretty sure that Watkins was out there playing at less than 100% to be mostly a decoy. Despite the obvious mistakes he made some of the times he was targeted, the coaches still spoke highly of his importance at drawing some coverage away and opening things up for Smith and Brown. 

 

TL;DR

Quez is a young player that was making strides. He suffered an injury, played with it and it affected his performance negatively. Now he's 100% again. It's not that hard to believe he'll rebound --- especially when his coaches and teammates support and believe in him. If anybody last season understands what Quez was dealing with (injury-wise), it's Jalen Hurts.

Watkins was also the player who stopped his route against the Giants the year prior that cost Jalen Hurts a red zone interception a game the Eagles lost. He’s also a guy who when was put at KR avoided contact and would go out of bounds never using his speed to challenge the return team, because he was afraid to get hit. Like you wrote some things are exactly what they appear to be, and Watkins appears to be soft. 

[brkmsn]

53 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Watkins was also the player who stopped his route against the Giants the year prior that cost Jalen Hurts a red zone interception a game the Eagles lost. 

Revisionist history.

Video at 1:17

 

57 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

He’s also a guy who when was put at KR avoided contact and would go out of bounds never using his speed to challenge the return team, because he was afraid to get hit. Like you wrote some things are exactly what they appear to be, and Watkins appears to be soft. 

Watkins did not look good or comfortable as a return man. In no way am I making a case for him to return kicks. But as a WR, he showed physicality before the shoulder injury. 

[EazyEaglez]

"Yeah, we had to cycle back to Quez Watkins. Here's the thing. He had some tough moments last season and, to his credit, acknowledged that he must improve, but you can't drop an easy pass in practice IMMEDIATELY after the head coach, Nick Sirianni, sticks his neck out for you and mentions you as someone he has had his eye on.

Some have already given up on Quez. We realize that. You shouldn't, but we understand the frustration. He'll make the team, but if something doesn't change, he figures to be staring up at Zaccheaus on the depth chart.”

https://insidetheiggles.com/posts/6-philadelphia-eagles-stock-fallen-training-camp/4

This is an article on players WHO DIDN’T STAND OUT during OTAs and who’s stock is basically falling. Quez Watkins is becoming the Barnett of the offense meaning "It’s always bleeping him…”

[brkmsn]

On 6/25/2023 at 4:37 PM, EazyEaglez said:

This is an article on players WHO DIDN’T STAND OUT during OTAs and who’s stock is basically falling. Quez Watkins is becoming the Barnett of the offense meaning "It’s always bleeping him…”

Only two practices were open to the media and there is only one mention of a Watkins drop in those two practices. Yep --- stock has fallen. 

Consider the source. There are certain bloggers that will write about 10 pieces between April and September on players that the Eagles should move on from (either trade or cut). Watkins has already been on a couple before this hit piece. Click bait is all they have.

[EazyEaglez]

On 6/26/2023 at 8:27 AM, brkmsn said:

Only two practices were open to the media and there is only one mention of a Watkins drop in those two practices. Yep --- stock has fallen. 

Consider the source. There are certain bloggers that will write about 10 pieces between April and September on players that the Eagles should move on from (either trade or cut). Watkins has already been on a couple before this hit piece. Click bait is all they have.

Don’t worry bud. I’m rooting for Quez to succeed. I doubt he will, but I’m rooting nonetheless. 

[time2rock]

On 6/25/2023 at 7:37 PM, EazyEaglez said:

"Yeah, we had to cycle back to Quez Watkins. Here's the thing. He had some tough moments last season and, to his credit, acknowledged that he must improve, but you can't drop an easy pass in practice IMMEDIATELY after the head coach, Nick Sirianni, sticks his neck out for you and mentions you as someone he has had his eye on.

Some have already given up on Quez. We realize that. You shouldn't, but we understand the frustration. He'll make the team, but if something doesn't change, he figures to be staring up at Zaccheaus on the depth chart.”

https://insidetheiggles.com/posts/6-philadelphia-eagles-stock-fallen-training-camp/4

This is an article on players WHO DIDN’T STAND OUT during OTAs and who’s stock is basically falling. Quez Watkins is becoming the Barnett of the offense meaning "It’s always bleeping him…”

There are 2 "sources" I stopped posting articles from in 411 because too much of their content was just nonsense mixed in with actual fact reporting ... Greger (Heavy.com) and Knox (Inside the Iggles).

[brkmsn]

8 hours ago, time2rock said:

There are 2 "sources" I stopped posting articles from in 411 because too much of their content was just nonsense mixed in with actual fact reporting ... Greger (Heavy.com) and Knox (Inside the Iggles).

Heavy is 100% click bait. I wonder who we should be trading for (or away) today?

[EazyEaglez]

On 7/3/2023 at 11:26 AM, time2rock said:

There are 2 "sources" I stopped posting articles from in 411 because too much of their content was just nonsense mixed in with actual fact reporting ... Greger (Heavy.com) and Knox (Inside the Iggles).

In the end we will need to see it on the field. At this point I doubt the Eagles will be making any signings or trades. Watkins will need to beat out Zaccheaus or lose his spot as the third receiver. We know what we saw last season. That level of performance is not going to get it done. 

[RememberTheKoy]

The Quez-OZ battle will be the story of camp and the highlight of the preseason games/joint practice tweets

 

[time2rock]

On 7/4/2023 at 1:37 PM, EazyEaglez said:

In the end we will need to see it on the field. At this point I doubt the Eagles will be making any signings or trades. Watkins will need to beat out Zaccheaus or lose his spot as the third receiver. We know what we saw last season. That level of performance is not going to get it done. 

Gut feeling says you are right in that we won't see any more additions to the roster (at least for positions in which the player will play somewhat of a primary role, which WR3 would qualify).  I think they're at a spot now where they'll want to see what some of these guys can do over the summer before further addressing any position.  Too many questions they need answered before doing so.  One obviously involves Quez ... he took a step backward last season ... will that continue or can he bounce back?  Important summer for him.  

[EazyEaglez]

9 hours ago, time2rock said:

Gut feeling says you are right in that we won't see any more additions to the roster (at least for positions in which the player will play somewhat of a primary role, which WR3 would qualify).  I think they're at a spot now where they'll want to see what some of these guys can do over the summer before further addressing any position.  Too many questions they need answered before doing so.  One obviously involves Quez ... he took a step backward last season ... will that continue or can he bounce back?  Important summer for him.  

If Quez were able to play special teams I think it would help his cause. He’s a fast guy who doesn’t like contact and that basically negates his speed. He’s going to need to add more to the arsenal than just go run deep. Funny he runs deep, but he isn’t the Eagles best deep threat. He’s probably their third best at best. 

[EagleVA]

20 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

 Funny he runs deep, but he isn’t the Eagles best deep threat. He’s probably their third best at best. 

Please.

Just because the ball isn't thrown his way doesn't mean he's the third best deep threat.

[LacesOut]

A 22 page thread on this guy?!?!?!? At best, a 3rd WR. 

JFC. 
 

🤪

[EazyEaglez]

5 hours ago, EagleVA said:

Please.

Just because the ball isn't thrown his way doesn't mean he's the third best deep threat.

😂 That’s like writing just because the ball isn’t thrown to JJAW it doesn’t mean he isn’t one of the best route runners in the league. 😂

[EagleVA]

16 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

😂 That’s like writing just because the ball isn’t thrown to JJAW it doesn’t mean he isn’t one of the best route runners in the league. 😂

Not quite smartarse, you can't throw the ball to someone who's on the sideline.

[EazyEaglez]

On 7/8/2023 at 2:13 PM, EagleVA said:

Not quite smartarse, you can't throw the ball to someone who's on the sideline.

It's also pointless to throw the ball deep to wide receiver with one of the highest drop rates in the NFL too. He's not good because he's fast.

[brkmsn]

10 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

It's also pointless to throw the ball deep to wide receiver with one of the highest drop rates in the NFL too. He's not good because he's fast.

Just 'cause you believe something is true, doesn't mean you aren't 100% ignorant. See for yourself:

Rk	Player	Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop% ▼	Int	Rat
1	Romeo Doubs	GNB	22	WR	13	7	67	42	425	3	20	229	5.5	196	4.7	9.4	0		9	13.4	0	95.7
2	Jauan Jennings	SFO	25	WR	16	4	56	35	416	1	23	240	6.9	176	5.0	8.4	3	11.7	7	12.5	3	68.7
3	Derrick Henry*	TEN	28	RB	16	16	41	33	398	0	11	12	0.4	386	11.7	0.1	2	16.5	5	12.2	0	107.1
4	James Conner	ARI	27	RB	13	13	58	46	300	1	13	-76	-1.7	376	8.2	-0.8	6	7.7	7	12.1	1	86.8
5	Devin Singletary	BUF	25	RB	16	16	52	38	280	1	15	23	0.6	257	6.8	0.2	2	19.0	6	11.5	0	91.8
6	Foster Moreau	LVR	25	TE	15	14	54	33	420	2	24	183	5.5	237	7.2	8.1	2	16.5	6	11.1	2	82.3
7	Zay Jones	JAX	27	WR	16	15	121	82	823	5	44	541	6.6	282	3.4	8.6	2	41.0	13	10.7	2	93.8
8	Rondale Moore	ARI	22	WR	8	8	56	41	414	1	16	133	3.2	281	6.9	5.5	5	8.2	6	10.7	0	99.9
9	Gerald Everett	LAC	28	TE	16	11	87	58	555	4	29	229	3.9	326	5.6	5.6	5	11.6	9	10.3	2	90.0
10	Isaiah Likely	BAL	22	TE	16	2	60	36	373	3	18	222	6.2	151	4.2	6.8	5	7.2	6	10.0	1	87.7
11	Darius Slayton	NYG	25	WR	16	11	71	46	724	2	30	462	10.0	262	5.7	12.5	2	23.0	7	9.9	2	96.2
12	Samaje Perine	CIN	27	RB	16	2	51	38	287	4	11	-34	-0.9	321	8.4	0.2	5	7.6	5	9.8	0	113.8
13	Jahan Dotson	WAS	22	WR	12	10	61	35	523	7	26	386	11.0	137	3.9	13.5	1	35.0	6	9.8	4	96.6
14	Gabriel Davis	BUF	23	WR	15	15	93	48	836	7	35	690	14.4	146	3.0	15.3	0		9	9.7	6	80.8
15	Deebo Samuel	SFO	26	WR	13	12	94	56	632	2	25	139	2.5	493	8.8	4.3	12	4.7	9	9.6	3	73.5
16	Isaiah McKenzie	BUF	27	WR	15	8	65	42	423	4	27	295	7.0	128	3.0	8.3	0		6	9.2	2	90.7
17	Amari Cooper	CLE	28	WR	17	17	132	78	1160	9	61	835	10.7	325	4.2	12.1	4	19.5	12	9.1	3	101.2
18	Kareem Hunt	CLE	27	RB	17	0	44	35	210	1	11	-33	-0.9	243	6.9	-0.5	7	5.0	4	9.1	0	94.1
19	Dalvin Cook*	MIN	27	RB	17	17	56	39	295	2	16	-36	-0.9	331	8.5	-0.5	4	9.8	5	8.9	0	94.0
20	Courtland Sutton	DEN	27	WR	15	15	109	64	829	2	38	677	10.6	152	2.4	12.3	1	64.0	9	8.3	4	73.5
21	Aaron Jones	GNB	28	RB	17	17	72	59	395	5	19	-52	-0.9	447	7.6	0.2	1	59.0	6	8.3	0	112.7
22	Kendrick Bourne	NWE	27	WR	16	2	48	35	434	1	22	289	8.3	145	4.1	10.3	2	17.5	4	8.3	2	90.1
23	Ja'Marr Chase*	CIN	22	WR	12	12	134	87	1046	9	58	608	7.0	438	5.0	9.0	10	8.7	11	8.2	4	98.7
24	Noah Brown	DAL	26	WR	16	13	74	43	555	3	25	427	9.9	128	3.0	10.8	4	10.8	6	8.1	4	72.7
25	Michael Gallup	DAL	26	WR	14	11	74	39	424	4	25	317	8.1	107	2.7	11.1	0		6	8.1	4	65.4
26	Rhamondre Stevenson	NWE	24	RB	17	7	88	69	421	1	13	-53	-0.8	474	6.9	0.0	11	6.3	7	8.0	0	90.4
27	Saquon Barkley*	NYG	25	RB	16	16	76	57	338	0	10	-96	-1.7	434	7.6	-0.2	3	19.0	6	7.9	1	77.6
28	Cade Otton	TAM	23	TE	16	11	65	42	391	2	19	217	5.2	174	4.1	4.9	2	21.0	5	7.7	0	91.2
29	Tee Higgins	CIN	23	WR	16	14	109	74	1029	7	47	743	10.0	286	3.9	10.9	2	37.0	8	7.3	1	115.6
30	Austin Ekeler	LAC	27	RB	17	17	127	107	722	5	36	-121	-1.1	843	7.9	-0.8	11	9.7	9	7.1	0	103.5
31	Mark Andrews*	BAL	27	TE	15	15	113	73	847	5	48	604	8.3	243	3.3	9.7	1	73.0	8	7.1	3	90.8
32	Josh Reynolds	DET	27	WR	14	11	59	38	479	3	25	364	9.6	115	3.0	11.9	0		4	6.8	1	99.5
33	Dalton Schultz	DAL	26	TE	15	15	89	57	577	5	27	373	6.5	204	3.6	7.2	5	11.4	6	6.7	5	77.8
34	Travis Etienne	JAX	23	RB	17	12	45	35	316	0	16	-36	-1.0	352	10.1	0.3	0		3	6.7	0	95.9
35	Tyler Higbee	LAR	29	TE	17	17	108	72	620	3	32	216	3.0	404	5.6	3.0	3	24.0	7	6.5	3	79.2
36	Alvin Kamara	NOR	27	RB	15	13	77	57	490	2	17	25	0.4	465	8.2	0.9	4	14.3	5	6.5	0	98.9
37	Chigoziem Okonkwo	TEN	23	TE	17	8	46	32	450	3	22	196	6.1	254	7.9	7.6	3	10.7	3	6.5	0	122.6
38	Josh Jacobs*+	LVR	24	RB	17	17	64	53	400	0	16	26	0.5	374	7.1	0.5	2	26.5	4	6.3	0	92.7
39	Dawson Knox*	BUF	26	TE	15	15	65	48	517	6	25	324	6.8	193	4.0	7.9	3	16.0	4	6.2	3	108.3
40	Marvin Jones	JAX	32	WR	16	10	81	46	529	3	29	434	9.4	95	2.1	13.2	0		5	6.2	2	78.7
41	Marquez Valdes-Scantling	KAN	28	WR	17	11	81	42	687	2	32	538	12.8	149	3.5	13.9	0		5	6.2	1	83.7
42	Brandon Aiyuk	SFO	24	WR	17	17	114	78	1015	8	47	627	8.0	388	5.0	9.9	4	19.5	7	6.1	1	115.9
43	Christian Watson	GNB	23	WR	14	11	66	41	611	7	28	335	8.2	276	6.7	13.8	3	13.7	4	6.1	1	121.5
44	Jaylen Waddle	MIA	24	WR	17	17	117	75	1356	8	60	846	11.3	510	6.8	11.8	4	18.8	7	6.0	2	119.5
45	Allen Lazard	GNB	27	WR	15	15	100	60	788	6	45	540	9.0	248	4.1	12.5	1	60.0	6	6.0	5	84.1
46	DeVonta Smith	PHI	24	WR	17	17	136	95	1196	7	57	706	7.4	490	5.2	9.6	5	19.0	8	5.9	1	111.0
47	JuJu Smith-Schuster	KAN	26	WR	16	14	101	78	933	3	47	468	6.0	465	6.0	7.3	3	26.0	6	5.9	3	102.5
48	Chris Olave	NOR	22	WR	15	9	119	72	1042	4	48	832	11.6	210	2.9	14.2	2	36.0	7	5.9	5	82.7
49	D.J. Moore	CAR	25	WR	17	17	118	63	888	7	44	706	11.2	182	2.9	13.0	4	15.8	7	5.9	5	80.0
50	Quez Watkins	PHI	24	WR	17	8	51	33	354	3	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	8

 

Look who is tied with DeVonta Smith with a 5.9% drop percentage. I guess QBs shouldn't be throwing to the likes of Smith, Waddle(6.0), Aiyuk(6.1),  Higgens(7.3), Chase(8.2), A.Cooper(9.1), or Deebo Samuel(9.6) then ...

[brkmsn]

Normally I don't do this, but I can't help feeling sorry for poor, little, always confused Bwestbrook36. Not everybody speaks football, so it can be confusing for them. So here's a little breakdown so he can learn something that would otherwise go over his confused, little head:

EasyEaglez saw a tweet earlier this year that stated Quez had the 2nd highest failed reception rate. He then incorrectly equated that with drop rate (drop percentage). Now he's claiming Quez had an alarming drop rate ... one that is so high, supposedly, that QBs shouldn't throw him the ball. I showed that his drop percentage was the same as D. Smith's (5.9%). Further, I listed several WRs that are clearly better than Quez in overall WR rankings, but had even higher drop percentages. I sarcastically suggested QBs shouldn't throw to them if EasyEaglez' statement is true. 

Now to the stat EasyEaglez doesn't understand at all and clearly thinks has something to do with drops. Let's see how the people that made the stat (Failed completion/reception rate) actually define it. Here's the quote:

"Every year, we here at Football Outsiders study failed completions around the league. A failed completion is any completed pass that fails to gain 45% of needed yards on first down, 60% on second down, or 100% on third or fourth down."

Furthermore, they add:

"This is normally where we put the disclaimer that not every failed completion is created equally, that for this article we make things binary, simply summing up successes and failures. A 7-yard completion on third-and-10 is better than a 2-yard completion, especially in field goal range, and that is reflected in DVOA—but for the purposes of this article, a failure is a failure. That remains true for all of the statistics and tables coming up, but there's no way to talk about the top of 2020's table without talking about degrees of success and failure. Let's get to the charts."

Here's the link to the full article: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2023/2022-failed-completions-justin-herbert-aims-record

Read it, it explains how scheme and defenses also play a part in this. 

I'll add that since Watkins replaced Reagor in the slot in the Eagles offense in 2022, he was used on many of those plays that didn't work for Reagor in 2021. IMO, the coaches need to take a good, long look at some of those screens and either see what they can do to make them more successful, or drop them from the playbook altogether.

In conclusion, Quez made some mistakes in 2022. He acknowledges that and vows to be better. He even vowed that he will make EasyEaglez, "Eat every ****ing word." I'm looking forward to that. In the meantime, ignorance on the meaning of a certain stat and equating it with something altogether different (i.e. confusing a stat about receptions with one about drops) is not a valid criticism. 

[EazyEaglez]

On 7/10/2023 at 1:15 AM, brkmsn said:

Just 'cause you believe something is true, doesn't mean you aren't 100% ignorant. See for yourself:

Rk	Player	Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop% ▼	Int	Rat
1	Romeo Doubs	GNB	22	WR	13	7	67	42	425	3	20	229	5.5	196	4.7	9.4	0		9	13.4	0	95.7
2	Jauan Jennings	SFO	25	WR	16	4	56	35	416	1	23	240	6.9	176	5.0	8.4	3	11.7	7	12.5	3	68.7
3	Derrick Henry*	TEN	28	RB	16	16	41	33	398	0	11	12	0.4	386	11.7	0.1	2	16.5	5	12.2	0	107.1
4	James Conner	ARI	27	RB	13	13	58	46	300	1	13	-76	-1.7	376	8.2	-0.8	6	7.7	7	12.1	1	86.8
5	Devin Singletary	BUF	25	RB	16	16	52	38	280	1	15	23	0.6	257	6.8	0.2	2	19.0	6	11.5	0	91.8
6	Foster Moreau	LVR	25	TE	15	14	54	33	420	2	24	183	5.5	237	7.2	8.1	2	16.5	6	11.1	2	82.3
7	Zay Jones	JAX	27	WR	16	15	121	82	823	5	44	541	6.6	282	3.4	8.6	2	41.0	13	10.7	2	93.8
8	Rondale Moore	ARI	22	WR	8	8	56	41	414	1	16	133	3.2	281	6.9	5.5	5	8.2	6	10.7	0	99.9
9	Gerald Everett	LAC	28	TE	16	11	87	58	555	4	29	229	3.9	326	5.6	5.6	5	11.6	9	10.3	2	90.0
10	Isaiah Likely	BAL	22	TE	16	2	60	36	373	3	18	222	6.2	151	4.2	6.8	5	7.2	6	10.0	1	87.7
11	Darius Slayton	NYG	25	WR	16	11	71	46	724	2	30	462	10.0	262	5.7	12.5	2	23.0	7	9.9	2	96.2
12	Samaje Perine	CIN	27	RB	16	2	51	38	287	4	11	-34	-0.9	321	8.4	0.2	5	7.6	5	9.8	0	113.8
13	Jahan Dotson	WAS	22	WR	12	10	61	35	523	7	26	386	11.0	137	3.9	13.5	1	35.0	6	9.8	4	96.6
14	Gabriel Davis	BUF	23	WR	15	15	93	48	836	7	35	690	14.4	146	3.0	15.3	0		9	9.7	6	80.8
15	Deebo Samuel	SFO	26	WR	13	12	94	56	632	2	25	139	2.5	493	8.8	4.3	12	4.7	9	9.6	3	73.5
16	Isaiah McKenzie	BUF	27	WR	15	8	65	42	423	4	27	295	7.0	128	3.0	8.3	0		6	9.2	2	90.7
17	Amari Cooper	CLE	28	WR	17	17	132	78	1160	9	61	835	10.7	325	4.2	12.1	4	19.5	12	9.1	3	101.2
18	Kareem Hunt	CLE	27	RB	17	0	44	35	210	1	11	-33	-0.9	243	6.9	-0.5	7	5.0	4	9.1	0	94.1
19	Dalvin Cook*	MIN	27	RB	17	17	56	39	295	2	16	-36	-0.9	331	8.5	-0.5	4	9.8	5	8.9	0	94.0
20	Courtland Sutton	DEN	27	WR	15	15	109	64	829	2	38	677	10.6	152	2.4	12.3	1	64.0	9	8.3	4	73.5
21	Aaron Jones	GNB	28	RB	17	17	72	59	395	5	19	-52	-0.9	447	7.6	0.2	1	59.0	6	8.3	0	112.7
22	Kendrick Bourne	NWE	27	WR	16	2	48	35	434	1	22	289	8.3	145	4.1	10.3	2	17.5	4	8.3	2	90.1
23	Ja'Marr Chase*	CIN	22	WR	12	12	134	87	1046	9	58	608	7.0	438	5.0	9.0	10	8.7	11	8.2	4	98.7
24	Noah Brown	DAL	26	WR	16	13	74	43	555	3	25	427	9.9	128	3.0	10.8	4	10.8	6	8.1	4	72.7
25	Michael Gallup	DAL	26	WR	14	11	74	39	424	4	25	317	8.1	107	2.7	11.1	0		6	8.1	4	65.4
26	Rhamondre Stevenson	NWE	24	RB	17	7	88	69	421	1	13	-53	-0.8	474	6.9	0.0	11	6.3	7	8.0	0	90.4
27	Saquon Barkley*	NYG	25	RB	16	16	76	57	338	0	10	-96	-1.7	434	7.6	-0.2	3	19.0	6	7.9	1	77.6
28	Cade Otton	TAM	23	TE	16	11	65	42	391	2	19	217	5.2	174	4.1	4.9	2	21.0	5	7.7	0	91.2
29	Tee Higgins	CIN	23	WR	16	14	109	74	1029	7	47	743	10.0	286	3.9	10.9	2	37.0	8	7.3	1	115.6
30	Austin Ekeler	LAC	27	RB	17	17	127	107	722	5	36	-121	-1.1	843	7.9	-0.8	11	9.7	9	7.1	0	103.5
31	Mark Andrews*	BAL	27	TE	15	15	113	73	847	5	48	604	8.3	243	3.3	9.7	1	73.0	8	7.1	3	90.8
32	Josh Reynolds	DET	27	WR	14	11	59	38	479	3	25	364	9.6	115	3.0	11.9	0		4	6.8	1	99.5
33	Dalton Schultz	DAL	26	TE	15	15	89	57	577	5	27	373	6.5	204	3.6	7.2	5	11.4	6	6.7	5	77.8
34	Travis Etienne	JAX	23	RB	17	12	45	35	316	0	16	-36	-1.0	352	10.1	0.3	0		3	6.7	0	95.9
35	Tyler Higbee	LAR	29	TE	17	17	108	72	620	3	32	216	3.0	404	5.6	3.0	3	24.0	7	6.5	3	79.2
36	Alvin Kamara	NOR	27	RB	15	13	77	57	490	2	17	25	0.4	465	8.2	0.9	4	14.3	5	6.5	0	98.9
37	Chigoziem Okonkwo	TEN	23	TE	17	8	46	32	450	3	22	196	6.1	254	7.9	7.6	3	10.7	3	6.5	0	122.6
38	Josh Jacobs*+	LVR	24	RB	17	17	64	53	400	0	16	26	0.5	374	7.1	0.5	2	26.5	4	6.3	0	92.7
39	Dawson Knox*	BUF	26	TE	15	15	65	48	517	6	25	324	6.8	193	4.0	7.9	3	16.0	4	6.2	3	108.3
40	Marvin Jones	JAX	32	WR	16	10	81	46	529	3	29	434	9.4	95	2.1	13.2	0		5	6.2	2	78.7
41	Marquez Valdes-Scantling	KAN	28	WR	17	11	81	42	687	2	32	538	12.8	149	3.5	13.9	0		5	6.2	1	83.7
42	Brandon Aiyuk	SFO	24	WR	17	17	114	78	1015	8	47	627	8.0	388	5.0	9.9	4	19.5	7	6.1	1	115.9
43	Christian Watson	GNB	23	WR	14	11	66	41	611	7	28	335	8.2	276	6.7	13.8	3	13.7	4	6.1	1	121.5
44	Jaylen Waddle	MIA	24	WR	17	17	117	75	1356	8	60	846	11.3	510	6.8	11.8	4	18.8	7	6.0	2	119.5
45	Allen Lazard	GNB	27	WR	15	15	100	60	788	6	45	540	9.0	248	4.1	12.5	1	60.0	6	6.0	5	84.1
46	DeVonta Smith	PHI	24	WR	17	17	136	95	1196	7	57	706	7.4	490	5.2	9.6	5	19.0	8	5.9	1	111.0
47	JuJu Smith-Schuster	KAN	26	WR	16	14	101	78	933	3	47	468	6.0	465	6.0	7.3	3	26.0	6	5.9	3	102.5
48	Chris Olave	NOR	22	WR	15	9	119	72	1042	4	48	832	11.6	210	2.9	14.2	2	36.0	7	5.9	5	82.7
49	D.J. Moore	CAR	25	WR	17	17	118	63	888	7	44	706	11.2	182	2.9	13.0	4	15.8	7	5.9	5	80.0
50	Quez Watkins	PHI	24	WR	17	8	51	33	354	3	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	8

 

Look who is tied with DeVonta Smith with a 5.9% drop percentage. I guess QBs shouldn't be throwing to the likes of Smith, Waddle(6.0), Aiyuk(6.1),  Higgens(7.3), Chase(8.2), A.Cooper(9.1), or Deebo Samuel(9.6) then ...

Hey why don’t you look at the extreme difference in passer rating when throwing to your bestie Quez as apposed to Smith. I sure it means nothing though. 🤮

[brkmsn]

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Hey why don’t you look at the extreme difference in passer rating when throwing to your bestie Quez as apposed to Smith. I sure it means nothing though. 🤮

Well, on that list, I accidentally cut off the 0.0 when I copied and pasted it, so the passer rating targeting Watkins is actually 80.0. My apologies for getting your hopes up.

					Games		Receiving															Rushing
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop%	Int	Rat	Att	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/Att	YAC	YAC/Att	BrkTkl	Att/Br
2020	22	PHI	WR	80	6	0	13	7	106	4	48	6.9	58	8.3	9.5	0		2	15.4	0	106.6	0	0	0	0	0		0		0
2021	23	PHI	WR	16	17	12	62	43	647	25	394	9.2	253	5.9	12.0	5	8.6	1	1.6	3	88.6	1	3	0	0	3	3.0	0	0.0	0
2022	24	PHI	WR	16	17	8	51	33	354	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	80.0	3	1	0	0	1	0.3	0	0.0	0

 

 

Rk	Player	Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop% ▼	Int	Rat
1	Romeo Doubs	GNB	22	WR	13	7	67	42	425	3	20	229	5.5	196	4.7	9.4	0		9	13.4	0	95.7
2	Jauan Jennings	SFO	25	WR	16	4	56	35	416	1	23	240	6.9	176	5.0	8.4	3	11.7	7	12.5	3	68.7
3	Derrick Henry*	TEN	28	RB	16	16	41	33	398	0	11	12	0.4	386	11.7	0.1	2	16.5	5	12.2	0	107.1
4	James Conner	ARI	27	RB	13	13	58	46	300	1	13	-76	-1.7	376	8.2	-0.8	6	7.7	7	12.1	1	86.8
5	Devin Singletary	BUF	25	RB	16	16	52	38	280	1	15	23	0.6	257	6.8	0.2	2	19.0	6	11.5	0	91.8
6	Foster Moreau	LVR	25	TE	15	14	54	33	420	2	24	183	5.5	237	7.2	8.1	2	16.5	6	11.1	2	82.3
7	Zay Jones	JAX	27	WR	16	15	121	82	823	5	44	541	6.6	282	3.4	8.6	2	41.0	13	10.7	2	93.8
8	Rondale Moore	ARI	22	WR	8	8	56	41	414	1	16	133	3.2	281	6.9	5.5	5	8.2	6	10.7	0	99.9
9	Gerald Everett	LAC	28	TE	16	11	87	58	555	4	29	229	3.9	326	5.6	5.6	5	11.6	9	10.3	2	90.0
10	Isaiah Likely	BAL	22	TE	16	2	60	36	373	3	18	222	6.2	151	4.2	6.8	5	7.2	6	10.0	1	87.7
11	Darius Slayton	NYG	25	WR	16	11	71	46	724	2	30	462	10.0	262	5.7	12.5	2	23.0	7	9.9	2	96.2
12	Samaje Perine	CIN	27	RB	16	2	51	38	287	4	11	-34	-0.9	321	8.4	0.2	5	7.6	5	9.8	0	113.8
13	Jahan Dotson	WAS	22	WR	12	10	61	35	523	7	26	386	11.0	137	3.9	13.5	1	35.0	6	9.8	4	96.6
14	Gabriel Davis	BUF	23	WR	15	15	93	48	836	7	35	690	14.4	146	3.0	15.3	0		9	9.7	6	80.8
15	Deebo Samuel	SFO	26	WR	13	12	94	56	632	2	25	139	2.5	493	8.8	4.3	12	4.7	9	9.6	3	73.5
16	Isaiah McKenzie	BUF	27	WR	15	8	65	42	423	4	27	295	7.0	128	3.0	8.3	0		6	9.2	2	90.7
17	Amari Cooper	CLE	28	WR	17	17	132	78	1160	9	61	835	10.7	325	4.2	12.1	4	19.5	12	9.1	3	101.2
18	Kareem Hunt	CLE	27	RB	17	0	44	35	210	1	11	-33	-0.9	243	6.9	-0.5	7	5.0	4	9.1	0	94.1
19	Dalvin Cook*	MIN	27	RB	17	17	56	39	295	2	16	-36	-0.9	331	8.5	-0.5	4	9.8	5	8.9	0	94.0
20	Courtland Sutton	DEN	27	WR	15	15	109	64	829	2	38	677	10.6	152	2.4	12.3	1	64.0	9	8.3	4	73.5
21	Aaron Jones	GNB	28	RB	17	17	72	59	395	5	19	-52	-0.9	447	7.6	0.2	1	59.0	6	8.3	0	112.7
22	Kendrick Bourne	NWE	27	WR	16	2	48	35	434	1	22	289	8.3	145	4.1	10.3	2	17.5	4	8.3	2	90.1
23	Ja'Marr Chase*	CIN	22	WR	12	12	134	87	1046	9	58	608	7.0	438	5.0	9.0	10	8.7	11	8.2	4	98.7
24	Noah Brown	DAL	26	WR	16	13	74	43	555	3	25	427	9.9	128	3.0	10.8	4	10.8	6	8.1	4	72.7
25	Michael Gallup	DAL	26	WR	14	11	74	39	424	4	25	317	8.1	107	2.7	11.1	0		6	8.1	4	65.4
26	Rhamondre Stevenson	NWE	24	RB	17	7	88	69	421	1	13	-53	-0.8	474	6.9	0.0	11	6.3	7	8.0	0	90.4
27	Saquon Barkley*	NYG	25	RB	16	16	76	57	338	0	10	-96	-1.7	434	7.6	-0.2	3	19.0	6	7.9	1	77.6
28	Cade Otton	TAM	23	TE	16	11	65	42	391	2	19	217	5.2	174	4.1	4.9	2	21.0	5	7.7	0	91.2
29	Tee Higgins	CIN	23	WR	16	14	109	74	1029	7	47	743	10.0	286	3.9	10.9	2	37.0	8	7.3	1	115.6
30	Austin Ekeler	LAC	27	RB	17	17	127	107	722	5	36	-121	-1.1	843	7.9	-0.8	11	9.7	9	7.1	0	103.5
31	Mark Andrews*	BAL	27	TE	15	15	113	73	847	5	48	604	8.3	243	3.3	9.7	1	73.0	8	7.1	3	90.8
32	Josh Reynolds	DET	27	WR	14	11	59	38	479	3	25	364	9.6	115	3.0	11.9	0		4	6.8	1	99.5
33	Dalton Schultz	DAL	26	TE	15	15	89	57	577	5	27	373	6.5	204	3.6	7.2	5	11.4	6	6.7	5	77.8
34	Travis Etienne	JAX	23	RB	17	12	45	35	316	0	16	-36	-1.0	352	10.1	0.3	0		3	6.7	0	95.9
35	Tyler Higbee	LAR	29	TE	17	17	108	72	620	3	32	216	3.0	404	5.6	3.0	3	24.0	7	6.5	3	79.2
36	Alvin Kamara	NOR	27	RB	15	13	77	57	490	2	17	25	0.4	465	8.2	0.9	4	14.3	5	6.5	0	98.9
37	Chigoziem Okonkwo	TEN	23	TE	17	8	46	32	450	3	22	196	6.1	254	7.9	7.6	3	10.7	3	6.5	0	122.6
38	Josh Jacobs*+	LVR	24	RB	17	17	64	53	400	0	16	26	0.5	374	7.1	0.5	2	26.5	4	6.3	0	92.7
39	Dawson Knox*	BUF	26	TE	15	15	65	48	517	6	25	324	6.8	193	4.0	7.9	3	16.0	4	6.2	3	108.3
40	Marvin Jones	JAX	32	WR	16	10	81	46	529	3	29	434	9.4	95	2.1	13.2	0		5	6.2	2	78.7
41	Marquez Valdes-Scantling	KAN	28	WR	17	11	81	42	687	2	32	538	12.8	149	3.5	13.9	0		5	6.2	1	83.7
42	Brandon Aiyuk	SFO	24	WR	17	17	114	78	1015	8	47	627	8.0	388	5.0	9.9	4	19.5	7	6.1	1	115.9
43	Christian Watson	GNB	23	WR	14	11	66	41	611	7	28	335	8.2	276	6.7	13.8	3	13.7	4	6.1	1	121.5
44	Jaylen Waddle	MIA	24	WR	17	17	117	75	1356	8	60	846	11.3	510	6.8	11.8	4	18.8	7	6.0	2	119.5
45	Allen Lazard	GNB	27	WR	15	15	100	60	788	6	45	540	9.0	248	4.1	12.5	1	60.0	6	6.0	5	84.1
46	DeVonta Smith	PHI	24	WR	17	17	136	95	1196	7	57	706	7.4	490	5.2	9.6	5	19.0	8	5.9	1	111.0
47	JuJu Smith-Schuster	KAN	26	WR	16	14	101	78	933	3	47	468	6.0	465	6.0	7.3	3	26.0	6	5.9	3	102.5
48	Chris Olave	NOR	22	WR	15	9	119	72	1042	4	48	832	11.6	210	2.9	14.2	2	36.0	7	5.9	5	82.7
49	D.J. Moore	CAR	25	WR	17	17	118	63	888	7	44	706	11.2	182	2.9	13.0	4	15.8	7	5.9	5	80.0
50	Quez Watkins	PHI	24	WR	17	8	51	33	354	3	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	80.0

[EazyEaglez]

5 hours ago, brkmsn said:

Well, on that list, I accidentally cut off the 0.0 when I copied and pasted it, so the passer rating targeting Watkins is actually 80.0. My apologies for getting your hopes up.

					Games		Receiving															Rushing
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop%	Int	Rat	Att	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/Att	YAC	YAC/Att	BrkTkl	Att/Br
2020	22	PHI	WR	80	6	0	13	7	106	4	48	6.9	58	8.3	9.5	0		2	15.4	0	106.6	0	0	0	0	0		0		0
2021	23	PHI	WR	16	17	12	62	43	647	25	394	9.2	253	5.9	12.0	5	8.6	1	1.6	3	88.6	1	3	0	0	3	3.0	0	0.0	0
2022	24	PHI	WR	16	17	8	51	33	354	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	80.0	3	1	0	0	1	0.3	0	0.0	0

 

 

Rk	Player	Tm	Age	Pos	G	GS	Tgt	Rec	Yds	TD	1D	YBC	YBC/R	YAC	YAC/R	ADOT	BrkTkl	Rec/Br	Drop	Drop% ▼	Int	Rat
1	Romeo Doubs	GNB	22	WR	13	7	67	42	425	3	20	229	5.5	196	4.7	9.4	0		9	13.4	0	95.7
2	Jauan Jennings	SFO	25	WR	16	4	56	35	416	1	23	240	6.9	176	5.0	8.4	3	11.7	7	12.5	3	68.7
3	Derrick Henry*	TEN	28	RB	16	16	41	33	398	0	11	12	0.4	386	11.7	0.1	2	16.5	5	12.2	0	107.1
4	James Conner	ARI	27	RB	13	13	58	46	300	1	13	-76	-1.7	376	8.2	-0.8	6	7.7	7	12.1	1	86.8
5	Devin Singletary	BUF	25	RB	16	16	52	38	280	1	15	23	0.6	257	6.8	0.2	2	19.0	6	11.5	0	91.8
6	Foster Moreau	LVR	25	TE	15	14	54	33	420	2	24	183	5.5	237	7.2	8.1	2	16.5	6	11.1	2	82.3
7	Zay Jones	JAX	27	WR	16	15	121	82	823	5	44	541	6.6	282	3.4	8.6	2	41.0	13	10.7	2	93.8
8	Rondale Moore	ARI	22	WR	8	8	56	41	414	1	16	133	3.2	281	6.9	5.5	5	8.2	6	10.7	0	99.9
9	Gerald Everett	LAC	28	TE	16	11	87	58	555	4	29	229	3.9	326	5.6	5.6	5	11.6	9	10.3	2	90.0
10	Isaiah Likely	BAL	22	TE	16	2	60	36	373	3	18	222	6.2	151	4.2	6.8	5	7.2	6	10.0	1	87.7
11	Darius Slayton	NYG	25	WR	16	11	71	46	724	2	30	462	10.0	262	5.7	12.5	2	23.0	7	9.9	2	96.2
12	Samaje Perine	CIN	27	RB	16	2	51	38	287	4	11	-34	-0.9	321	8.4	0.2	5	7.6	5	9.8	0	113.8
13	Jahan Dotson	WAS	22	WR	12	10	61	35	523	7	26	386	11.0	137	3.9	13.5	1	35.0	6	9.8	4	96.6
14	Gabriel Davis	BUF	23	WR	15	15	93	48	836	7	35	690	14.4	146	3.0	15.3	0		9	9.7	6	80.8
15	Deebo Samuel	SFO	26	WR	13	12	94	56	632	2	25	139	2.5	493	8.8	4.3	12	4.7	9	9.6	3	73.5
16	Isaiah McKenzie	BUF	27	WR	15	8	65	42	423	4	27	295	7.0	128	3.0	8.3	0		6	9.2	2	90.7
17	Amari Cooper	CLE	28	WR	17	17	132	78	1160	9	61	835	10.7	325	4.2	12.1	4	19.5	12	9.1	3	101.2
18	Kareem Hunt	CLE	27	RB	17	0	44	35	210	1	11	-33	-0.9	243	6.9	-0.5	7	5.0	4	9.1	0	94.1
19	Dalvin Cook*	MIN	27	RB	17	17	56	39	295	2	16	-36	-0.9	331	8.5	-0.5	4	9.8	5	8.9	0	94.0
20	Courtland Sutton	DEN	27	WR	15	15	109	64	829	2	38	677	10.6	152	2.4	12.3	1	64.0	9	8.3	4	73.5
21	Aaron Jones	GNB	28	RB	17	17	72	59	395	5	19	-52	-0.9	447	7.6	0.2	1	59.0	6	8.3	0	112.7
22	Kendrick Bourne	NWE	27	WR	16	2	48	35	434	1	22	289	8.3	145	4.1	10.3	2	17.5	4	8.3	2	90.1
23	Ja'Marr Chase*	CIN	22	WR	12	12	134	87	1046	9	58	608	7.0	438	5.0	9.0	10	8.7	11	8.2	4	98.7
24	Noah Brown	DAL	26	WR	16	13	74	43	555	3	25	427	9.9	128	3.0	10.8	4	10.8	6	8.1	4	72.7
25	Michael Gallup	DAL	26	WR	14	11	74	39	424	4	25	317	8.1	107	2.7	11.1	0		6	8.1	4	65.4
26	Rhamondre Stevenson	NWE	24	RB	17	7	88	69	421	1	13	-53	-0.8	474	6.9	0.0	11	6.3	7	8.0	0	90.4
27	Saquon Barkley*	NYG	25	RB	16	16	76	57	338	0	10	-96	-1.7	434	7.6	-0.2	3	19.0	6	7.9	1	77.6
28	Cade Otton	TAM	23	TE	16	11	65	42	391	2	19	217	5.2	174	4.1	4.9	2	21.0	5	7.7	0	91.2
29	Tee Higgins	CIN	23	WR	16	14	109	74	1029	7	47	743	10.0	286	3.9	10.9	2	37.0	8	7.3	1	115.6
30	Austin Ekeler	LAC	27	RB	17	17	127	107	722	5	36	-121	-1.1	843	7.9	-0.8	11	9.7	9	7.1	0	103.5
31	Mark Andrews*	BAL	27	TE	15	15	113	73	847	5	48	604	8.3	243	3.3	9.7	1	73.0	8	7.1	3	90.8
32	Josh Reynolds	DET	27	WR	14	11	59	38	479	3	25	364	9.6	115	3.0	11.9	0		4	6.8	1	99.5
33	Dalton Schultz	DAL	26	TE	15	15	89	57	577	5	27	373	6.5	204	3.6	7.2	5	11.4	6	6.7	5	77.8
34	Travis Etienne	JAX	23	RB	17	12	45	35	316	0	16	-36	-1.0	352	10.1	0.3	0		3	6.7	0	95.9
35	Tyler Higbee	LAR	29	TE	17	17	108	72	620	3	32	216	3.0	404	5.6	3.0	3	24.0	7	6.5	3	79.2
36	Alvin Kamara	NOR	27	RB	15	13	77	57	490	2	17	25	0.4	465	8.2	0.9	4	14.3	5	6.5	0	98.9
37	Chigoziem Okonkwo	TEN	23	TE	17	8	46	32	450	3	22	196	6.1	254	7.9	7.6	3	10.7	3	6.5	0	122.6
38	Josh Jacobs*+	LVR	24	RB	17	17	64	53	400	0	16	26	0.5	374	7.1	0.5	2	26.5	4	6.3	0	92.7
39	Dawson Knox*	BUF	26	TE	15	15	65	48	517	6	25	324	6.8	193	4.0	7.9	3	16.0	4	6.2	3	108.3
40	Marvin Jones	JAX	32	WR	16	10	81	46	529	3	29	434	9.4	95	2.1	13.2	0		5	6.2	2	78.7
41	Marquez Valdes-Scantling	KAN	28	WR	17	11	81	42	687	2	32	538	12.8	149	3.5	13.9	0		5	6.2	1	83.7
42	Brandon Aiyuk	SFO	24	WR	17	17	114	78	1015	8	47	627	8.0	388	5.0	9.9	4	19.5	7	6.1	1	115.9
43	Christian Watson	GNB	23	WR	14	11	66	41	611	7	28	335	8.2	276	6.7	13.8	3	13.7	4	6.1	1	121.5
44	Jaylen Waddle	MIA	24	WR	17	17	117	75	1356	8	60	846	11.3	510	6.8	11.8	4	18.8	7	6.0	2	119.5
45	Allen Lazard	GNB	27	WR	15	15	100	60	788	6	45	540	9.0	248	4.1	12.5	1	60.0	6	6.0	5	84.1
46	DeVonta Smith	PHI	24	WR	17	17	136	95	1196	7	57	706	7.4	490	5.2	9.6	5	19.0	8	5.9	1	111.0
47	JuJu Smith-Schuster	KAN	26	WR	16	14	101	78	933	3	47	468	6.0	465	6.0	7.3	3	26.0	6	5.9	3	102.5
48	Chris Olave	NOR	22	WR	15	9	119	72	1042	4	48	832	11.6	210	2.9	14.2	2	36.0	7	5.9	5	82.7
49	D.J. Moore	CAR	25	WR	17	17	118	63	888	7	44	706	11.2	182	2.9	13.0	4	15.8	7	5.9	5	80.0
50	Quez Watkins	PHI	24	WR	17	8	51	33	354	3	13	208	6.3	146	4.4	9.0	1	33.0	3	5.9	3	80.0

You think an 80 passer rating when thrown to is good? No wonder you gush over so many bums. Funny your boy Carson also sported an 80 passer rating last season too. 😂🤣😂

[brkmsn]

5 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

You think an 80 passer rating when thrown to is good? No wonder you gush over so many bums. Funny your boy Carson also sported an 80 passer rating last season too. 😂🤣😂

The correct term is "when targeted." Just because a player is targeted does not mean it's always the receiver's fault if the pass is incomplete, intercepted, or caught but resulting in no gain or a loss --- all things that would negatively effect passer rating. What the defenders do on the play has an effect. The mistakes Quez made last year clearly played their part in the outcome. So did the mistakes that Brown and Smith made in their outcomes. Their cases are made stronger by being the "go to" guys on more plays --- especially in the red zone. When you aren't the first or second read for the QB, that means those receivers are covered and the QB is at the point where he is just unloading the ball some of the time. 

The question is, in Quez' role, is 80 a bad number? It isn't awful, but it could be better. In 2021, Quez had a much better season and it was 88.6. So it would be nice to see that result at least match that higher number. But are receivers that have a result of 80 or less terrible? IDK. Last year, Deebo Samuel had a 73.5 --- yes, the guy who was an All Pro the season before. 

As I said, there are a lot of factors. Nobody is claiming Watkins was perfect last season and his mistakes contributed to that QB rating when targeted. But when you are talking about a WR3 that is also targeted less than the TE1, and it's a guy that is being used to stretch the field often, and he's rarely the first read, the lower resulting QB rating is to be expected.

 

BTW, teaching you facts about drop rates and "failed completion/reception" stats isn't "gushing." It's pointing out your ignorance. 

 

[EazyEaglez]

6 hours ago, brkmsn said:

The correct term is "when targeted." Just because a player is targeted does not mean it's always the receiver's fault if the pass is incomplete, intercepted, or caught but resulting in no gain or a loss --- all things that would negatively effect passer rating. What the defenders do on the play has an effect. The mistakes Quez made last year clearly played their part in the outcome. So did the mistakes that Brown and Smith made in their outcomes. Their cases are made stronger by being the "go to" guys on more plays --- especially in the red zone. When you aren't the first or second read for the QB, that means those receivers are covered and the QB is at the point where he is just unloading the ball some of the time. 

The question is, in Quez' role, is 80 a bad number? It isn't awful, but it could be better. In 2021, Quez had a much better season and it was 88.6. So it would be nice to see that result at least match that higher number. But are receivers that have a result of 80 or less terrible? IDK. Last year, Deebo Samuel had a 73.5 --- yes, the guy who was an All Pro the season before. 

As I said, there are a lot of factors. Nobody is claiming Watkins was perfect last season and his mistakes contributed to that QB rating when targeted. But when you are talking about a WR3 that is also targeted less than the TE1, and it's a guy that is being used to stretch the field often, and he's rarely the first read, the lower resulting QB rating is to be expected.

 

BTW, teaching you facts about drop rates and "failed completion/reception" stats isn't "gushing." It's pointing out your ignorance. 

 

Hey bud when did you become a super Wentz apologist? Was it before or after the Eagles dumped that other bum you used to support in JJAW? 

[brkmsn]

4 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Hey bud when did you become a super Wentz apologist? Was it before or after the Eagles dumped that other bum you used to support in JJAW? 

Let me know when you want to talk more about Quez in the thread about Quez. If I want to talk about Wentz, I'm sure there will be dozens of new posts and topics created by you to do as such and I'll do that there. JJAW was a 2nd round bust that failed to take advantage of every opportunity he was given and eventually lost his roster spot because of players like Watkins that helped make this team better. 

I'm not sure why it bothers you so much that I support the players that play for the Eagles, but okay ... you'd rather root against some of them and that's your prerogative. There are clearly players that I had hoped would work out for the Eagles that ultimately didn't. Aside from the two you already mentioned, the most recent disappointment was Reagor. It cracks me up that whenever you have no valid rebuttal in a discussion with me, you have to cry "JJAW." I have asked you a dozen times to show me one post I made where I ever called him a good WR. You can't because that never happened. The dude never did anything noteworthy in a non-preseason game. Even when he recovered that fumble in the endzone, it wasn't me that posted about it like it was some monumental occasion --- it was you. Go back and see for yourself. Just because you guys made up a pretend me in your minds, doesn't make that pretend me a reality. It's curious that you NEVER bring up my defense of Hurts on the EMB since around midseason of 2021. Not everybody I root for and defend against what I believe to be inaccurate criticism turns out to be a "bum." Hurts, Foles, Graham, Seumalo, Edwards, etc... turned out pretty well. But you won't bring them up ... 

Fortunately for you, I'll give you something to use later about the subject of this topic. I believe Quez is a good WR (Yep--- with Quez I actually said it) and will rebound nicely from his unimpressive play while he was hurt last year. Please bump this often during the 2023 season.