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Official Philadelphia Phillies Thread - Still can't hit for crap

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Not going to happen. but if they signed hader and dominguez and soto turn it around that bullpen would be filthy. Hoffman, dominguez, soto, Alvarado and hader 

 

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Lol 

 

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Basically, Trea Turner cost Stott the Gold Glove at 2B.    His Double Play numbers drug his DRS down.  

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol 

 

Welp...... we know where Kingery is signing.

44 minutes ago, Steve 17 said:

Welp...... we know where Kingery is signing.

I believe kingery is still in the Phillies system but it reverts to his rookie contract 

 

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I believe kingery is still in the Phillies system but it reverts to his rookie contract 

Kingery is a FA. 

3 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

Kingery is a FA. 

Not according to Tim Kelly’s tweet

 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not according to Tim Kelly’s tweet

 

That's weird. I guess the 7th year was 13 million or back to the minors. Just cut the guy loose already. Holy hell. If they didn't use him over Castro, then they never will. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Giving the QO to Nola and not giving one to Hoskins was expected. It'll be interesting to see where Rhys goes. Still a chance he comes back but if there's a team out there that needs a RH power bat who can play the occasional 1st base, he's probably gone. 

5 hours ago, vsptroops said:

Giving the QO to Nola and not giving one to Hoskins was expected. It'll be interesting to see where Rhys goes. Still a chance he comes back but if there's a team out there that needs a RH power bat who can play the occasional 1st base, he's probably gone. 

Been rumors about boras having him take a 1 year contract to prove his knee is fine and cash in next offseason. Frankly if harper tells Dombrowski I’ll move back to OF so Rhys can play first i think he stays. also harper is really good friends with him and called him the heart of the team. I tend to think there’s a better chance he comes backs then nola 

Normally I’d say eskin is an idiot but i tend to agree with him. I feel someone will pay him 7 years and the Phillies aren’t going to do that. 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Normally I’d say eskin is an idiot but i tend to agree with him. I feel someone will pay him 7 years and the Phillies aren’t going to do that. 

 

Good. He can take his weak mental ass elsewhere. SOB couldn't get it done at home.

8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Good. He can take his weak mental ass elsewhere. SOB couldn't get it done at home.

The bigger issue is fixing the hole he leaves behind. If they go after Blake Snell, which has been rumored, that’s fine depending on the contract. You don’t wanna get into a contract with Blake Snell that is over four years. Because I’m not sure he holds up and at that point it’s potentially a bad contract. But the other issue with Blake Snell is he’s only pitched 180 innings or more twice in his career. The two years he’s won the Cy Young (I’m assuming he wins it this year). The rest of the time he hasn’t. That’s an issue because Aaron Nola from all his flaws is an innings eater. Which you need in the regular season to get to the postseason.

If I was going to sign Blake Snell, I also consider going after Jordan Montgomery. And just going with a six man rotation of wheeler, snell, Montgomery, Ranger, walker and Sanchez. That way you keep your arms fresh and you have enough arms to sustain an injury. Plus you would have another guy in Jordan Montgomery who last 2 years has gotten to 180 and pitched well in the postseason. 

that said, I don’t think they’re gonna go after both. If that is the case, I am actually going to the trade market and trying to get Corbin Burnes. Because I think the Brewers are about to tear everything down as Craig counsel left and burnes wants out anyways. He is a workhorse and an cy young candidate type guy every time he takes the mound. You’re gonna need that as wheeler turns 34. So he is the successor to Wheeler as the ace as wheelers starts falling back to a number two or number three.

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Good. He can take his weak mental ass elsewhere. SOB couldn't get it done at home.

some morons on twitter are saying that phillies are done if nola leaves like our hitters can hit more than nola can pitch. heck we can have the cheapest version of randy wolf on this roster and it wont stop the phillies from hitting.

14 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The bigger issue is fixing the hole he leaves behind. If they go after Blake Snell, which has been rumored, that’s fine depending on the contract. You don’t wanna get into a contract with Blake Snell that is over four years. Because I’m not sure he holds up and at that point it’s potentially a bad contract. But the other issue with Blake Snell is he’s only pitched 180 innings or more twice in his career. The two years he’s won the Cy Young (I’m assuming he wins it this year). The rest of the time he hasn’t. That’s an issue because Aaron Nola from all his flaws is an innings eater. Which you need in the regular season to get to the postseason.

If I was going to sign Blake Snell, I also consider going after Jordan Montgomery. And just going with a six man rotation of wheeler, snell, Montgomery, Ranger, walker and Sanchez. That way you keep your arms fresh and you have enough arms to sustain an injury. Plus you would have another guy in Jordan Montgomery who last 2 years has gotten to 180 and pitched well in the postseason. 

that said, I don’t think they’re gonna go after both. If that is the case, I am actually going to the trade market and trying to get Corbin Burnes. Because I think the Brewers are about to tear everything down as Craig counsel left and burnes wants out anyways. He is a workhorse and an cy young candidate type guy every time he takes the mound. You’re gonna need that as wheeler turns 34. So he is the successor to Wheeler as the ace as wheelers starts falling back to a number two or number three.

Yeah, the who takes his spot is an issue, but we just saw two years in a row of him not getting it done when it mattered the most in the WS and game freaking 6 at home. Hell, he folded in the SD game as well. That's not a guy you sink 200+ million to.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, the who takes his spot is an issue, but we just saw two years in a row of him not getting it done when it mattered the most in the WS and game freaking 6 at home. Hell, he folded in the SD game as well. That's not a guy you sink 200+ million to.

for that kind of production, it's better to get a cheaper pitcher and get another bat.

Just looking at FA in 2025 there’s a boatload of pitchers that are gonna be available. Have burnes, cole, peralta, woodruff, glasnow, Bieber, Walker buehler, Robbie ray and max fried. 

I might actually go get jordan Montgomery on a 4 year deal with a mutual option on a 5th. Then also sign sonny gray who’s supposedly good friends with our pitching coach to a 3 year deal. Give myself a 6 man rotation of: wheeler, Montgomery, gray, ranger, walker and Sanchez. Keeps guys fresh. Then trade castellanos away, move harper to RF and have Rhys here under a 1 year contract which boras wants anyway so he can hit the market healthy in 2025. (Add bench bats and bullpen arm) 

then in 2025 i make two splashes. Go after someone in that pitching group (prefer burnes) and go sign Juan soto and move harper back to first

 

The only way I would consider Trout would be for Anaheim to eat half his contract and even then, I'd still have major reservations. 

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