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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes …it was all the above. Is it TMZ to point out the obvious how much more Goedert would thrive and increase his value needing to push Ertz out? Pretty much just basic common sense stuff. Goedert wasn’t racking up the stats with Ertz here. He needed him out. Andy even like some well kept secret about that’s what was going on behind the scenes. Ertz is a good player…still is. Just good business sense from Goedert and his camp.

Yes it is TMZ when your adding extra drama for no reason lmao 

It was all obvious course of action everyone knew that Ertz time was coming to an end once we drafted Geodart 

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1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Just repeating Reub that's it... as you said about me and Goodell... you can take it up with Reub

I put it all out there for you on a player the whole situation. We don’t like Ringo more than Rodgers. It actually played out before our eyes on the field. That points to the other factors at play. One of them being Ringo is a good looking player.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would we be looking to move on from Goedert right now? 

June would make sense... not now

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why would we be looking to move on from Goedert right now? 

Sounds like a Howie type of play why would they not be gauging interest in Geodart when we know we are not bringing him back next year ?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes it is TMZ when your adding extra drama for no reason lmao 

It was all obvious course of action everyone knew that Ertz time was coming to an end once we drafted Geodart 

Sorry if you are extra sensitive to all the facts and reasoning. Kind of sucked…Ertz was a quality Eagles. But I understood from Goedert’s perspective. And I get it why he’s doing this now.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I put it all out there for you on a player the whole situation. We don’t like Ringo more than Rodgers. It actually played out before our eyes on the field. That points to the other factors at play. One of them being Ringo is a good looking player.

Again... in 2025 going forward... not what happened in 2024... Reub said they are high on Ringo... which he said this morning around 8am on the morning show.  He didn't expect Rodgers back

Also have to add in the fact isn’t this being regarded as a pretty good TE draft class? On top of the recent success of rookie TEs Bowers last year, Laporta the year before that.

Can definitely see why the Eagles might more looking to get the new guy now and wanting to play him day 1 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sorry if you are extra sensitive to all the facts and reasoning. Kind of sucked…Ertz was a quality Eagles. But I understood from Goedert’s perspective. And I get it why he’s doing this now.

Ertz needed to go... it didn't suck.... he needed to go, he can't block, was a waste in the 2 TE set.  Plus the money he was costing us.   His time ran out, it happens

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sounds like a Howie type of play why would they not be gauging interest in Geodart when we know we are not bringing him back next year ?

I hear your opinion and disagree…which is fine. Feels like totally Goedert play to me. Zero guaranteed money…and realized we aren’t extending him. Technically if it makes you feel any better…it’s really Goedert’s agent making smart business decisions.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sorry if you are extra sensitive to all the facts and reasoning. Kind of sucked…Ertz was a quality Eagles. But I understood from Goedert’s perspective. And I get it why he’s doing this now.

I’m not extra sensitive just isn’t needed you love to add extra drama that pointless it adds nothing…. You just make up your own narratives to add extra drama just to say oh Eagles are moving on from Ertz to make way the 2nd round investment TE we drafted SHOCKER!!!! 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Ertz needed to go... it didn't suck.... he needed to go, he can't block, was a waste in the 2 TE set.  Plus the money he was costing us.   His time ran out, it happens

His time still hasn’t run out. But I get it was just business. Ertz being around was nothing but bad business for Goedert very very clearly.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I’m not extra sensitive just isn’t needed you love to add extra drama that pointless it adds nothing…. You just make up your own narratives to add extra drama just to say oh Eagles are moving on from Ertz to make way the 2nd round investment TE we drafted SHOCKER!!!! 

Yeah because you seem to only look at things from the team perspective here. There is the player perspective also. That’s all…nothing real drama…really just the obvious. Isn’t always necessary that way. But Ertz was very much in Goedert’s way. Just the way it was.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah because you seem to only look at things from the team perspective here. There is the player perspective also. That’s all…nothing real drama…really just the obvious. Isn’t always necessary that way. But Ertz was very much in Goedert’s way. Just the way it was.

No I see the player side it just isn’t needed…. Oh Geodart wants a new deal every player that runs out of guaranteed money wants a new deal to get the guarantees back… Hence why I was saying all of last year Geodart is likely gone I figured we would let him play out his final year but if we move on sooner it is what it is.

Same things your saying without the TMZ it’s really not that hard to do 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No I see the player side it just isn’t needed…. Oh Geodart wants a new deal every player that runs out of guaranteed money wants a new deal to get the guarantees back… Hence why I was saying all of last year Geodart is likely gone I figured we would let him play out his final year but if we move on sooner it is what it is.

Same things your saying without the TMZ it’s really not that hard to do 

You’re saying the same thing …without the reasoning I’m giving. That’s fine 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah because you seem to only look at things from the team perspective here. There is the player perspective also. That’s all…nothing real drama…really just the obvious. Isn’t always necessary that way. But Ertz was very much in Goedert’s way. Just the way it was.

Ertz was a Wentz lover and got all butt hurt when we ditched him from "a close personal source"

Really his cap hit is too high this year with the Rosie Magic contract. We needed to extend him…or do something.

2 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Ertz was a Wentz lover and got all butt hurt when we ditched him from "a close personal source"

I have little doubts he was one of the closer connections with Wentz. Probably took it almost as bad as No Mas did. Of the two…think Ertz at least has gotten over it by now.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I have little doubts he was one of the closer connections with Wentz. Probably took it most as bad as No Mas did. Of the two…think Ertz at least has gotten over it by now.

They were best friends.

Maybe it will all work out as just some big negotiation methods taking place.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I hear your opinion and disagree…which is fine. Feels like totally Goedert play to me. Zero guaranteed money…and realized we aren’t extending him. Technically if it makes you feel any better…it’s really Goedert’s agent making smart business decisions.

Curious... you talk against AJ...you talk against Goedert....is the idea to make Hurts loom better?

Ertz had to go... Goedert has been injured... he has zero leverage, if it were him asking for this, reports would be he was given permission to seek a trade.  The fact that rumors are the Eagles aren't even looking at a 2025 pick is very telling that they are just gauging the market.  A post June trade makes way more sense... it also is the best reason they are looking at picks AFTER this draft.  

According to reports that is.   If your idea with Goedert being unhappy... or his agent...we would have had some kind of report out.  Your boy McLane lives for this. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Maybe it will all work out as just some big negotiation methods taking place.

But really was believing this draft is very ripe for us to draft a TE. Even keeping Goedert we will. But have Calacattarra to bridge the gap right now also,

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I have little doubts he was one of the closer connections with Wentz. Probably took it almost as bad as No Mas did. Of the two…think Ertz at least has gotten over it by now.

Has he broken a tackle or learned how to  block yet?  He is a receiving TE that works in a passing offense that uses 3 WRs.  

Not on a running team that likes to use 2 TEs

Goedert was our YAC Creation weapon. So gotta think about that here. It can’t just be replaced by tiny fragile Covey. Have Ainias…want to be optimistic with him. Dotson I’m really looking to take a leap in contributing. Shipley also. I know it makes some if your heads roll to thin k about replacing some production we got from a TE with nonTE sources….but the YAC Creation hasn’t ever been a traditional TE role as much as Goedert could deliver with it.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But really was believing this draft is very ripe for us to draft a TE. Even keeping Goedert we will. But have Calacattarra to bridge the gap right now also,

I can't see Goedert playing here in 2026... much cheaper having a player on their rookie deal.   His contract already seems set with the void years and I can't see them looking to pay him and use more cap space.    It seems like he either plays 2025 or gets traded after June

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Curious... you talk against AJ...you talk against Goedert....is the idea to make Hurts loom better?

Ertz had to go... Goedert has been injured... he has zero leverage, if it were him asking for this, reports would be he was given permission to seek a trade.  The fact that rumors are the Eagles aren't even looking at a 2025 pick is very telling that they are just gauging the market.  A post June trade makes way more sense... it also is the best reason they are looking at picks AFTER this draft.  

According to reports that is.   If your idea with Goedert being unhappy... or his agent...we would have had some kind of report out.  Your boy McLane lives for this. 

The benefit of having an established GM with job security. Can look for that 2027 4th…because gauging things we aren’t getting a 2025 4th for him. A great carrot when most GMs are forced to make moves realizing they might not even have a job then. Smart play by Rosie…utilize his advantages. I like the 2027 4th over a 2025 6th right now.

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