4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I can't see Goedert playing here in 2026... much cheaper having a player on their rookie deal.   His contract already seems set with the void years and I can't see them looking to pay him and use more cap space.    It seems like he either plays 2025 or gets traded after June

Sounds like you were backing up what I was saying

Good for Williams... $26 million per.  Took a chance going into the last year of his deal, bet on himself...and helped us win on his way to getting paid. 

I remember when we picked him, one of our scouts refused to give Howie a high 5... that guy looks like a genius now!  

Not just whatever financials with Goedert…the draft class works for us. Real good TE class. We are taking one. Is it necessarily the TE we hired his college HC? Not going that far…not saying it won’t be either.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Good for Williams... $26 million per.  Took a chance going into the last year of his deal, bet on himself...and helped us win on his way to getting paid. 

I remember when we picked him, one of our scouts refused to give Howie a high 5... that guy looks like a genius now!  

Of course the anti- Howie guy had to point that out on here at the time... always looking to take a shot at Howie.  Could have drafted the big DT instead of the injury prone Dickerson round 2 and gotten the much needed CB round 3.   Stupid Howie!

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The benefit of having an established GM with job security. Can look for that 2027 4th…because gauging things we aren’t getting a 2025 4th for him. A great carrot when most GMs are forced to make moves realizing they might not even have a job then. Smart play by Rosie…utilize his advantages. I like the 2027 4th over a 2025 6th right now.

Whatever you say ... 

But we can't even get a 2025 4th... but the player is unhappy getting $14.5 million as an over 30 TE?  

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Goedert was our YAC Creation weapon. So gotta think about that here. It can’t just be replaced by tiny fragile Covey. Have Ainias…want to be optimistic with him. Dotson I’m really looking to take a leap in contributing. Shipley also. I know it makes some if your heads roll to thin k about replacing some production we got from a TE with nonTE sources….but the YAC Creation hasn’t ever been a traditional TE role as much as Goedert could deliver with it.

Because you are not replacing Geodart we can and should have other guys that can produce YAC I mean hell AJ Brown is a pretty damn good YAC guy himself…. But he isn’t replacing Geodart as a TE.

You can easily just say we need more YAC guys it has zero to do with replacing Geodart. We need a Te that can play inline block and still produce as a receiver to replace Geodart 

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Sounds like you were backing up what I was saying

I'm saying for the team....I can't see it worth bringing back Goedert and paying him after 2025.

I'm saying that we are price gauging for potential decision of if we keep Jim in 2025 or trade him post June. 

I'm completely disagreeing with this being initiated by Goedert's camp.

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Because you are not replacing Geodart we can and should have other guys that can produce YAC I mean hell AJ Brown is a pretty damn good YAC guy himself…. But he isn’t replacing Geodart as a TE.

You can easily just say we need more YAC guys it has zero to do with replacing Geodart. We need a Te that can play inline block and still produce as a receiver to replace Geodart 

Come on...the 7 YAC plays from Goedert are what the Eagles are considering more so than a blocker for a 2000 yard rusher.  It's obvious 

Sweat to Arizona... 4 years $76.4 mil

Should get a 4th round comp pick for that amount.  Hopefully,  these contracts are getting big for sure

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Of course the anti- Howie guy had to point that out on here at the time... always looking to take a shot at Howie.  Could have drafted the big DT instead of the injury prone Dickerson round 2 and gotten the much needed CB round 3.   Stupid Howie!

Looks like I was right all along with that kid. He just was such a hard worker and put his head fine and grind. I do remember you making comments digging Milton. I was happy he had such a successful season. Good for him. I didn’t doubt him..no matter how small a school he came from. Louisiana Tech to stud NFL player….great scouting. Good blue collar strong character guys that work hard and dedicate to their craft rarely disappoint. He maxed out his potential…going to make bank.

38 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Because you are not replacing Geodart we can and should have other guys that can produce YAC I mean hell AJ Brown is a pretty damn good YAC guy himself…. But he isn’t replacing Geodart as a TE.

You can easily just say we need more YAC guys it has zero to do with replacing Geodart. We need a Te that can play inline block and still produce as a receiver to replace Geodart 

Was just one really really key element Goedert brings to the table. Smitty pretty good at it. But we aren’t looking for AJ and Smitty to need to do more. We need other players contributing. Let  Smitty and AJ eat doing everything they already do. 

36 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Come on...the 7 YAC plays from Goedert are what the Eagles are considering more so than a blocker for a 2000 yard rusher.  It's obvious 

Did you not notice how big those YAC Creation elements were for us these past few seasons from Goedert. I thought they were key. Didn’t have anybody else doing them as well.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Did you not notice how big those YAC Creation elements were for us these past few seasons from Goedert. I thought they were key. Didn’t have anybody else doing them as well.

I appreciate this element of Goedert’s game. He was darn good at it. Be gayer all you want.,,I believe it mattered and was real helpful additional element when he could provide that extra piece to our O puzzle,

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Looks like I was right all along with that kid. He just was such a hard worker and put his head fine and grind. I do remember you making comments digging Milton. I was happy he had such a successful season. Good for him. I didn’t doubt him..no matter how small a school he came from. Louisiana Tech to stud NFL player….great scouting. Good blue collar strong character guys that work hard and dedicate to their craft rarely disappoint. He maxed out his potential…going to make bank.

Why would I dig Williams?  I don't watch college, didn't know him until he came here.   Lol

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Was just one really really key element Goedert brings to the table. Smitty pretty good at it. But we aren’t looking for AJ and Smitty to need to do more. We need other players contributing. Let  Smitty and AJ eat doing everything they already do. 

I agree Goedet is excellent at YAC on those 7 plays per season 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Did you not notice how big those YAC Creation elements were for us these past few seasons from Goedert. I thought they were key. Didn’t have anybody else doing them as well.

Agree those few plays stand out... his blocking for 40 snaps per game really doesn't stick out but obviously is more beneficial being he does that the most.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Why would I dig Williams?  I don't watch college, didn't know him until he came here.   Lol

Then we’re downing him like he wasn’t any good up until he broke out this season…didn’t even really hear you praise him this season. Whatever…I don’t care. I enjoy rooting for exactly players like him. He got it done…and earned his big payday..and I’m just happy for him…sucks to lose him..but I completely understand.

50 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I'm saying for the team....I can't see it worth bringing back Goedert and paying him after 2025.

I'm saying that we are price gauging for potential decision of if we keep Jim in 2025 or trade him post June. 

I'm completely disagreeing with this being initiated by Goedert's camp.

So your belief is players prefer being in situations of zero guaranteed money when they believe they are big time NFL players?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then we’re downing him like he wasn’t any good up until he broke out this season…didn’t even really hear you praise him this season. Whatever…I don’t care. I enjoy rooting for exactly players like him. He got it done…and earned his big payday..and I’m just happy for him…sucks to lose him..but I completely understand.

Hunh???? 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Agree those few plays stand out... his blocking for 40 snaps per game really doesn't stick out but obviously is more beneficial being he does that the most.

I don’t take anything away from his blocking. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So your belief is players prefer being in situations of zero guaranteed money when they believe they are big time NFL players?

So you are saying " big time NFL players " can only bring a 2027 4th round pick in return?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh???? 

You were down on him because you weren’t seeing the persons stats up until this season. I was telling you he’s a hard working guy that you could just look at him and tell he was completely commited and it would pay off.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t take anything away from his blocking. 

You shouldn't since he does it 40 times per game compared to a YAC play say 2 out of every 3 games...it's like a 120 to 2 ratio.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You were down on him because you weren’t seeing the persons stats up until this season. I was telling you he’s a hard working guy that you could just look at him and tell he was completely commited and it would pay off.

When was I " down" on Williams?

I never even talk about him.

Just now, joemas6 said:

So you are saying " big time NFL players " can only bring a 2027 4th round pick in return?

I’m saying…in Goedert’s mind …how he considers himself…yes…I believe he thinks of himself as a big time player and leader of our team.