3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yeah. All I am wondering is how they are scoring them. If Beebe is "about the same" as Guyton, then we should go to him in round 2 and use the 1 for something else and let Guyton go past.. Of course if the separation is so vast that it matters ALOT,then we go Guyton at 22. We just aren't privvy to how they have them ranked and rated. DeJean would be a welcome sight in my view. It goes against Howies grain,but the talent is hard to blow off and it's a sore spot we could use to fix and keep going. DeJean is a good fit here and a guy that can be around as we replace some of the aging other guys in the secondary. I think it would be a wise move to do that.but IDK what Howie thinks. He's done well the last few drafts so whatever he thinks must be the best. We have guys on the rope such as Kneeland and Mahogany as later choices if we miss on others,so that plan B is already there. I know we had my boy Ainias Smith in who would be a perfect slot choice and another WR. Stats show we select 67% of the players we have in for personal visits. DeJean was 1 of them as was Beebe and Latu. So DeJean,Latu and Guyton should be one of those 3 with Beebe in round 2. If we miss on DeJean I like Bullard at S in round 2 with Beebe At any rate with 22,50 and 53 we will get 3 good players and that's pretty good. Ainias Smith is the best slot guy,maybe we can get him in 5 unless they feel the need to add him in 4. it's going to be a fun draft and very busy in round 1

What if  Beebe goes early 2nd round?

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So part of the " noise " ....that's what I'll call the stuff coming out from reports... coming from the local media is Hurts demeanor last year after games.   The idea about locker rooms being happy after wins, but Hurts constant complaining about " not playing to the standard etc. was apparently rubbing some of the players the wrong way.

So.... the welcome to the league moment is definitely here...people criticize the way you say hello and tie your shoe when you get there.

How we were 10-1 yet far from playing well enough to get anywhere..or really playing all that well…especially weren’t playing as a cohesive team? Pointing out that kind of stuff. Like about how each week just escaping with wins could so easily flip into losing to any team in the league.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

2019 season was winning the division...and the QB setting franchise record with Greg Ward is his best WR! 

So hopefully the cowboys completely fall apart so we can win the division like that team did. What was it 9 wins? 

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What if  Beebe goes early 2nd round?

Beebe isn’t close to Guyton in our ranking. I believe Guyton is higher on our board than anybody else in the leagues board.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So hopefully the cowboys completely fall apart so we can win the division like that team did. What was it 9 wins? 

Cowboys lost a few pieces right?   They had the easier schedule last year... this year not so much.   These are absolutely factors. I don't think they need to go anywhere... I know you have an agenda...but reality was Dallas wasn't better last year.    You could even argue the mistake in the Detroit game from the refs gave them the division. 

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Beebe isn’t close to Guyton in our ranking. I believe Guyton is higher on our board than anybody else in the leagues board.

Our board is irrelevant if a player gets taken before we pick. 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Cowboys lost a few pieces right?   They had the easier schedule last year... this year not so much.   These are absolutely factors. I don't think they need to go anywhere... I know you have an agenda...but reality was Dallas wasn't better last year.    You could even argue the mistake in the Detroit game from the refs gave them the division. 

Cowboys were better last year. I can’t stand to admit it. But to say I’d think otherwise would just be a lie. Cowboys were the number one O. We were totally setup to win the division even still. Eagles were totally setup to overachieve.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Our board is irrelevant if a player gets taken before we pick. 

Guyton might not be there at 53. Believe an eventual capable T is even that high on the overall leagues board. Eagles could take him at 22 though.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cowboys were better last year. I can’t stand to admit it. But to say I’d think otherwise would just be a lie. Cowboys were the number one O. We were totally setup to win the division even still. Eagles were totally setup to overachieve.

They play KC and we play the Chargers ...you think they end up with better record? 

Not to mention the awful mistake by the refs vs Detroit.  

The physical toll the KC game took right before the physical Buffalo game... vs their easy game vs LA...huge factor. 

It's not as simple as just looking at the record.  Eye test the Cowboys were not better.  

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They play KC and we play the Chargers ...you think they end up with better record? 

Not to mention the awful mistake by the refs vs Detroit.  

The physical toll the KC game took right before the physical Buffalo game... vs their easy game vs LA...huge factor. 

It's not as simple as just looking at the record.  Eye test the Cowboys were not better.  

Eye test Cowboys were way better. Record wise it was close. We just kept finding ways to win to start 10-1.

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They play KC and we play the Chargers ...you think they end up with better record? 

Not to mention the awful mistake by the refs vs Detroit.  

The physical toll the KC game took right before the physical Buffalo game... vs their easy game vs LA...huge factor. 

It's not as simple as just looking at the record.  Eye test the Cowboys were not better.  

Whelp now we have that OC that had their O massively underachieving.

KC wasn’t nearly as good midseason as where they finally developed into.

Chiefs beat the Chargers by a field goal a couple of games before we got them. Then beat them by one at the end.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What if  Beebe goes early 2nd round?

We had other guys in like Mahogany and Zinter from Michigan,those are pure G's and we also had other OT's in, it would not be the end of the world

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Beebe isn’t close to Guyton in our ranking. I believe Guyton is higher on our board than anybody else in the leagues board.

How do you know what "our rankings" are? You have no clue what they are

31 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Guyton might not be there at 53. Believe an eventual capable T is even that high on the overall leagues board. Eagles could take him at 22 though.

Here we go with the "He won't be there" There is no way to know until the actual draft unfolds. If we knew how the draft unfolds why have it> Just assign the players to teams by their ranking LOL

Cowboys know our O scheme better than we do

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Here we go with the "He won't be there" There is no way to know until the actual draft unfolds. If we knew how the draft unfolds why have it> Just assign the players to teams by their ranking LOL

So you believe Guyton will be available at 53?

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Guyton might not be there at 53. Believe an eventual capable T is even that high on the overall leagues board. Eagles could take him at 22 though.

DeJean might not be there at 53 either, Wiggins may not be. Any OT you like may not be,that's why we play the draft games

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eye test Cowboys were way better. Record wise it was close. We just kept finding ways to win to start 10-1.

Eye test vs the better teams ...the Eagles were better.   Eye test vs the easy teams.... Dallas did their typical running up the score. 

Take the best 4 games...  head to head split ( they won with the extra rest after we came off 3 physical games)

SF....both sucked 

Buffalo...we won they sucked

KC for us...we won.    Detroit for them, refs won.

You want to gage teams...I look at how they look vs the better teams.  And the degree of difficulty of the schedule. 

Dallas absolutely did not look better than the Eagles last year.   Other than vs the really bad teams... that's easy Eye test and just reality. 

But I can see how you are enamored with their organization.  I mean.. signing Pollard at 10.7 mil was a good business move on your part... for me, I'm signing a similar if not better RB with way less cap hit and then using the difference to bring in other players to help.  Their run D was awful all season.    

 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So you believe Guyton will be available at 53?

Doesn't matter what I believe,nor what you believe. This is why you make mocks because you have to weigh the players available to what your team needs and make decisions to let guys go or make the moves up or down Any of the top 25 could "not be there". But maybe they could be LOL. We get surprises every dang draft,you should know this by now instead of making it an annual arguing event

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Guyton might not be there at 53. Believe an eventual capable T is even that high on the overall leagues board. Eagles could take him at 22 though.

Maybe we like an OT who can start at G first????

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eye test Cowboys were way better. Record wise it was close. We just kept finding ways to win to start 10-1.

Finding ways to win 3 straight vs Dallas, KC and Buffalo... show me the Dallas stretch of quality opponents?

15 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Eye test Cowboys were way better. Record wise it was close. We just kept finding ways to win to start 10-1.

Their defense was better ,maybe not better,but we had an awful scheme of laying off 10 yards on 3rd downs

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

KC wasn’t nearly as good midseason as where they finally developed into.

They were physical... that takes a toll on the way the season goes.  LA was a joke last year... like a week off