3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because we have the O line lol.It's not the RB,it's the O LINE

Yet losing our best ever C you see as having zero effect?

Sidney Brown while trying to be optimistic basically is doubting he’ll be cleared for week one.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet losing our best ever C you see as having zero effect?

Had to be replaced sometime,just like every other position. IDK if there is any effect have not seen the O line play yet. Kelce had some super nice players playing beside him just like Cam will have. Kelce gave him a ringing endorsement and possibly Howie got Bark to offset that inexperience a bit. Either you can play the C position or you can't. I don't see a major fall off no

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet losing our best ever C you see as having zero effect?

I would be more worried about RG than C

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/why-kelce-is-so-confident-in-jurgens-entering-year-2/410607/ This was before Cam got any experience really

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/who-is-cam-jurgens-5-things-to-know-about-jason-kelces-replacement/ar-BB1jkNhC Plus you have that "exuberance of youth" 

https://bvmsports.com/2024/06/14/cam-jurgens-named-vital-eagles-2024-player-by-nfl-network/ Next man up. Week 1 will be an immediate test for him in Brazil. Good test for Steen as well

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/philadelphia-eagles-training-camp-battles-to-watch-in-2024/ar-BB1pgWfh

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-looking-to-trade-these-players-before-2024-season/ar-BB1peod1?cvid=43ba240bcaa34e6d8afe4d020880ec80&ei=13

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Spent all this money they spend on FA to backload the cheapest position. Let the Pro Bowler RB walk and brought in Saquan. A whole whopping 3.8 mil 2024 cap on a FA while letting our guy walk…woohoo spend that crazy big money! Nobody spends like the Eagles do! 

So you prefer to overpay...  again I'll ask....who gets more players via free agency than the Eagles?   

This is what you have become... so desperate of an agenda against everything in the organization except for the QB....that you try to spin the Barkley signing as a bad one?  

At what point do you take the L?    You are great at researching the obscure 7th round pick from the small school ... the business side of the game, not your thing, the more you post, the less educated you look.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark will be in the pro bowl on a career year my prediction. At least I will state mine,not say    "OH in 2012 I called the....."     12 wins,Bark goes to the PB-calling it AHEAD of the season

Swift will be a nobody again... but still better than Miles Sanders....the guy Ham said was " a special talent" lol.  

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Swift will be a nobody again... but still better than Miles Sanders....the guy Ham said was " a special talent" lol.  

O lines matter. Swift in Chicago will be interesting.I don't think they have the Oline to get Swift the numbers he got here

20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you prefer to overpay...  again I'll ask....who gets more players via free agency than the Eagles?   

This is what you have become... so desperate of an agenda against everything in the organization except for the QB....that you try to spin the Barkley signing as a bad one?  

At what point do you take the L?    You are great at researching the obscure 7th round pick from the small school ... the business side of the game, not your thing, the more you post, the less educated you look.

He;s mad because we let Reddick walk and we didn't spend all our money on Patrick Queen

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He;s mad because we let Reddick walk and we didn't spend all our money on Patrick Queen

Right...there is absolutely legit reasons not to like the " player selection "   but nothing has to do with bad cap management. 

2011 is the example when they had unlimited cap space compared to everyone else...Andy and Joe doubled down everywhere spending the money...still had 2 rookie safeties, rookie Casey Matthews and two other scrub LBs...  5 scrubs starting in the middle.   That's their philosophy.   Has nothing to do with cap! 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Right...there is absolutely legit reasons not to like the " player selection "   but nothing has to do with bad cap management. 

2011 is the example when they had unlimited cap space compared to everyone else...Andy and Joe doubled down everywhere spending the money...still had 2 rookie safeties, rookie Casey Matthews and two other scrub LBs...  5 scrubs starting in the middle.   That's their philosophy.   Has nothing to do with cap! 

And me personally. I'm not impressed with some of the "top" guys" I want guys who work well together as a team,who are on the same page,who can read each others minds. Much more important to be cohesive as a unit. Of course you need the talent. But I will take the crew of blue collar guys who keep working to get better. We won the SB with less talent than we have now,but they all worked together,even more so after Wentz went down. We saw how guys can give 110%. I would rather have that than a top flight guy who gives 80%

https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/5-eagles-heading-into-2024-poised-for-pro-bowl-jump/591925/

Tough for fantasy figuring out where Bark fits as a fantasy draft pick. I would assume if we give even a little less workload to extend his career over 3 seasons, he will exceed his numbers in NY,so I'm pegging him late 1 early 2. Some may pass him up. The quandry for defenses will be at the 1-2 yard line where Hurts can either hand it off or hog the ball for himself. I suspect a 50/50 split or Gains behind Bark. At any rate should be alot of scoring opps for him

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And me personally. I'm not impressed with some of the "top" guys" I want guys who work well together as a team,who are on the same page,who can read each others minds. Much more important to be cohesive as a unit. Of course you need the talent. But I will take the crew of blue collar guys who keep working to get better. We won the SB with less talent than we have now,but they all worked together,even more so after Wentz went down. We saw how guys can give 110%. I would rather have that than a top flight guy who gives 80%

The 2017 was a very deep roster.  Cox was a stud then.  Jernigan was an excellent DT....the DL and OL were deep.  LBs were solid, above average ... two stud S, a nice crew at CB.   The offensive skill positions didn't have a weakness, RB and TE depth made up for any lack of elite talent.  

You could call it chemistry...for me it's the depth and lack of weakness that allowed that team to excel.  You couldn't double team anyone without creating a mismatch somewhere else.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tough for fantasy figuring out where Bark fits as a fantasy draft pick. I would assume if we give even a little less workload to extend his career over 3 seasons, he will exceed his numbers in NY,so I'm pegging him late 1 early 2. Some may pass him up. The quandry for defenses will be at the 1-2 yard line where Hurts can either hand it off or hog the ball for himself. I suspect a 50/50 split or Gains behind Bark. At any rate should be alot of scoring opps for him

RB 2 through 5 for Barkley.   He isn't going to be touched 46% behind the line... if Sanders can be pro bowl behind this line... Barkley absolutely has the chance to be the leading fantasy RB.

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

RB 2 through 5 for Barkley.   He isn't going to be touched 46% behind the line... if Sanders can be pro bowl behind this line... Barkley absolutely has the chance to be the leading fantasy RB.

Yeah,the play of Jurgens and Steen will be important and of course if Hurts decides to give him the ball or keep it himself. Mid-late 1 or early 2 is about right then. He would be nice if your draft position was 8-12. I'm in 4 leagues.so will see where I pick. I hesitate putting him higher because there are many mouths to feed in this offense

11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/who-is-cam-jurgens-5-things-to-know-about-jason-kelces-replacement/ar-BB1jkNhC Plus you have that "exuberance of youth" 

I don’t really know if trying to find the best closest comparable player to Kelce should be the key. Finding the next best NFL C would be a better way to approach the task in my opinion.

11 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://bvmsports.com/2024/06/14/cam-jurgens-named-vital-eagles-2024-player-by-nfl-network/ Next man up. Week 1 will be an immediate test for him in Brazil. Good test for Steen as well

• Jurgens had the worst pass-blocking grade and second-worst run-blocking grade among Philadelphia O-linemen in the prior season.
•  Obviously didn’t perform anywhere near HoF levels….to say the least.

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So you prefer to overpay...  again I'll ask....who gets more players via free agency than the Eagles?   

This is what you have become... so desperate of an agenda against everything in the organization except for the QB....that you try to spin the Barkley signing as a bad one?  

At what point do you take the L?    You are great at researching the obscure 7th round pick from the small school ... the business side of the game, not your thing, the more you post, the less educated you look.

I didn’t ever say the Saquan signing was a bad one. Just pointing out how it’s kind of hard to choke down your heavy fanboying for Rosie contracts and way of doing business in all facets. Seems pretty obvious the need to point out we LOST our Pro Bowl Rb …when you are so busy touting our massive FA spending of 3.4 mil cap on a RB. Barkley is a very distinguished RB. So many positives to be sold on with him as a player. Objectively some warming areas and pitfalls to consider also. But not seeing some massive FA spending situation that’s unfolded here. Losing a Pro Bowler to gain a RB …even if considered a slight upgrade….isn't making the case of contract and cap management structure resulting in upgrading the team with so much talent through FAs. Spent 3.4 mil cap on the cheapest position of RB ….to make up for the loss of our Pro Bowl RB….not massively impressed by the cap management king(as you’d have him portrayed). What I’ve stated all along…why not pay a RB? Their cheap. In fact pay two!

10 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He;s mad because we let Reddick walk and we didn't spend all our money on Patrick Queen

Queen was cheap relatively. We instead added White. Big dropoff there. But you are two years behind on your accusation. This offseason I mentioned desiring another …cheaper stud up and coming LB. But that wasn’t happening either. Got two starting So So LBs on one year contracts. Letting our best defender and pass rusher just gifted away pretty much does hurt as a fan. Are we a better team right now with Reddick? I’d answer absolutely we would be. But things are more complicated than that. So we shipped him away…love to eat the Dead Money for players not playing for us.

8 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Right...there is absolutely legit reasons not to like the " player selection "   but nothing has to do with bad cap management. 

2011 is the example when they had unlimited cap space compared to everyone else...Andy and Joe doubled down everywhere spending the money...still had 2 rookie safeties, rookie Casey Matthews and two other scrub LBs...  5 scrubs starting in the middle.   That's their philosophy.   Has nothing to do with cap! 

Player selection has tons to do with the cap. Inseparable! Amazes me you think they are totally separate.