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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There you go...plus Barkley and Shipley.  2024 should be better.

We need more than 142 yards from the slot which was my argument all along. I don't care who gets it 

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4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's called transitioning. A round 1 drafted player could take 3 years if he cant transition a round 5 guy could play if he gets the NFL down quickly

Mahomes didn’t play his rookie season.

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26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Parris average contributor as well. 

Quez was below average. Average is better than below average

11 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The playcaller was fired.  Part of why I am looking forward to 2024.

 Was he?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Quez was below average. Average is better than below average

I was talking about the 150 yards a season he averages in his career as a contribution. Definitely wasn’t calling Parris and average level player.

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7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I gave him top ten

Maybe based on last year yes,but we all saw how he was miused all year. He has also had to battle for target share because we have kick arse WR's

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mahomes didn’t play his rookie season.

QB's are different. Many don't start because they are plans for the future. GB is excellent at this and now Love gets his turn

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe based on last year yes,but we all saw how he was miused all year. He has also had to battle for target share because we have kick arse WR's

He was 14th yardage wise last season

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7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mahomes didn’t play his rookie season.

Neither did Hurts

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He can do more than Burrow. But Burrow seems to do all the passing skills well. Nothing great. Just does all well.

Hurts can throw this TD from the 29 and would have landed on the 10... 60 plus in the air, not floating in the air forever like Hurts.    

Hurts can't make these passes... 

 

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He was 14th yardage wise last season

Not bad being misused all year

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

https://www.bengals.com/video/can-t-miss-play-joe-burrow-goes-way-downtown-to-ja-marr-chase-for-70-yard-td

52 yards on a rope without having to step up and loft it like Hurts

 

 

Hurts has 58 yard in the air pass himself exactly like Burrow. Facts and stats are just that. No spin you can put on those. Nice try though. I’m here to call out the BS though. Be here tomorrow too.

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3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts can throw this TD from the 29 and would have landed on the 10... 60 plus in the air, not floating in the air forever like Hurts.    

Hurts can't make these passes... 

 

I remember,I think it was Favre,throwing 74 yards in the air in the annual QB competition. Unreal

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https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-eagles-chiefs-jalen-hurts-to-devonta-smith-for-a-41-yard-gain

Here is Hurts throwing that pass to Devonte vs the Chiefs... slightly less than 50 yards as he plants perfectly in the pocket and Smith has to wait for the ball.   

I get it ...you love Hurts.   That's great as he is the Eagles QB.     

2 things that works against him... his height and his arm strength.    

It absolutely makes the most sense to have a quality TE 1 like Goedert to maximize Hurts ability.

Goedert can pass protect for Hurts ... he can take a screen pass and create YAC after faking a block...   he can run block which helps keep Hurts ahead of the chains.  

Yes I would love a stud 3rd WR in addition, but isn't as important to the offense as Goedert.   We have seen that in games he has missed.  

 

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You can't coach this here

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I remember,I think it was Favre,throwing 74 yards in the air in the annual QB competition. Unreal

Mike Vick threw the ball completely out of the stadium

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/video/highlight-eagles-chiefs-jalen-hurts-to-devonta-smith-for-a-41-yard-gain

Here is Hurts throwing that pass to Devonte vs the Chiefs... slightly less than 50 yards as he plants perfectly in the pocket and Smith has to wait for the ball.   

I get it ...you love Hurts.   That's great as he is the Eagles QB.     

2 things that works against him... his height and his arm strength.    

It absolutely makes the most sense to have a quality TE 1 like Goedert to maximize Hurts ability.

Goedert can pass protect for Hurts ... he can take a screen pass and create YAC after faking a block...   he can run block which helps keep Hurts ahead of the chains.  

Yes I would love a stud 3rd WR in addition, but isn't as important to the offense as Goedert.   We have seen that in games he has missed.  

 

How did things look in the game AJ missed?

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mike Vick threw the ball completely out of the stadium

And Hurts can't, he is an intermediate passer. 45 yards is good for him. Many times our WR's outrun that distance and he has to look elsewhere if he holds the ball too long

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How did things look in the game AJ missed?

AJ is not WR3. TE1 would be missed much more than WR3

A third WR would he huge for our O to be elite. But becomes absolutely crucial if AJ or Smitty miss time. Hurts prefers throwing to WR. Probably partially developed from his upbringing and spread O experiences. I’m not anti-Goedert or TE. Just can see how much value I’d place in a quality third WR. I’d like it all ideally.

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3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And Hurts can't, he is an intermediate passer. 45 yards is good for him. Many times our WR's outrun that distance and he has to look elsewhere if he holds the ball too long

BTW I have NP with accurate 45 yard passes,but in a 65 yard hail mary situation I would have to count Hurts out of that

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

A third WR would he huge for our O to be elite. But becomes absolutely crucial if AJ or Smitty miss time. Hurts prefers throwing to WR. Probably partially developed from his upbringing and spread O experiences. I’m not anti-Goedert or TE. Just can see how much value I’d place in a quality third WR. I’d like it all ideally.

Paris is a stop gap IMO,still better than Quez,but if Ainias is 1/2 of what I saw,that position will be fixed for many years. I hope that happens

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And Hurts can't, he is an intermediate passer. 45 yards is good for him. Many times our WR's outrun that distance and he has to look elsewhere if he holds the ball too long

Nope…Hurts doesn’t have the arm of Mike Vick. Very few ever have. Just posted the fact of Hurts has already showcased completing a 58 air yard pass completion at a very young age. So your spin busted before you even had a chance to post it. He has a quality enough arm. Mixing that with so many other quality franchise QB boxes he checks we are very lucky to have him leading our team.

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