14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It really feels like they're going all in on the new system and Hurts either sinks or floats. Hopefully he's successful because then we don't need to get a QB in 2027 and can just extend him. Select Lane's heir and possibly even a C and G

Kendall showed a lot in week 18. I think OG is the way to look.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I know we’ve talked about the Eagles’ improvement coincided with drafting athletes, but it also has coincided with them drafting players who stand out on the consensus draft boards. They haven’t really been reaching on players, Jalynx Hunt excluded.

It has less to do with drafting "athletes" and far more to do with drafting the top guy on their board regardless of position, versus reaching to "fill a need." It just so happened that the top guy on their board in recent drafts have been high level athletes. People seem to forget what a good athlete Andre Dillard was but that pick ended up sucking because the dude was softer than puppy shift. There is no one size fits all approach to football players and why they are or are not successful and we will see what happens but Makai Lemon is a dog and a football player and his type of WR has been undervalued in recent years and is having big success in the league. It's exactly why the Seahawks were able to steal JSN and the Buccs appear to have stolen Egbuka last year.

2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Here are a couple of Eagles only day two mocks:

Inside the Iggles

54 - AJ Haulcy S LSU

68 - Calen Tiernan OL Northwestern

98 - Sam Roush TE Stanford

Kempski

54 - Caleb Tiernan OL Northwestern

68 - Max Klare TE Ohio State

98 - Zakee Wheatley S Penn State

EJ Smith had one as well and the headline teased a big trade but unfortunately you have to pay for PHLY so I couldn't tell you what "EJ said...."

His mock was

54. OL Caleb Tiernan, NW

68. TE Oscar delp, UGA

98. OL Jalen Farmer Ky

15 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I hated it. The TV coverage couldn't keep up with the pace of the picks.

They could just tell Schefter and the others to quit spoiling picks but they must be first to give out the info

Just now, Wentz_Era said:

Kendall showed a lot in week 18. I think OG is the way to look.

yeah but I also think you can get away with playing Kendall, or another center prospect at guard in the new system. OZ will require movement skills and a center like Logan Jones in this draft moves like no guards in this draft can.

One of Kendall or Jones at C, and the other at guard. Undersized, but we did it that way with the OZ stuff when Chip was the coach. This scheme allows you to get away with smaller OL. Kelce and Mathis paring...

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

His mock was

54. OL Caleb Tiernan, NW

68. TE Oscar delp, UGA

98. OL Jalen Farmer Ky

Thanks. What was the big trade he teased......Greenard?

54 minutes ago, TEW said:

Agreed mostly.

But I do think we need to be very specific about WR positions.

Brown is a split end. That is the most difficult position to fill because it does require a more elite physical profile. You need strength to beat jams since a corner can line up right on the line. You want speed because you’re isolated out wide. You want size, again, because you’re isolated and can win jump balls away from coverage help.

Lemon is a slot receiver and most of that stuff doesn’t matter. Quickness, route running, and hands are what wins because you’re playing in the middle of the field in traffic.

We are going to have to disagree on position. Eagles played a very x, y, z approach last year. I don’t think we see that this year. I think we will see more movement and thus more change of positioning. But I don’t think Lemon is anymore limited to the slot than I think Jefferson would have been.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

His mock was

54. OL Caleb Tiernan, NW

68. TE Oscar delp, UGA

98. OL Jalen Farmer Ky

these people and their forcing OL picks... jesus christ thats bad. Tiernan and Farmer are both going to bust here.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

They could just tell Schefter and the others to quit spoiling picks but they must be first to give out the info

They could stop the practice of calling the prospects and ensuring that they are alive and out of jail. Then we’d all find out at the same time (in theory).

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Thanks. What was the big trade he teased......Greenard?

Only thing he mentioned was this after a one line blurb about about the lemon pick/trade.

Obvious statement: That won’t be the last time the Eagles make an aggressive move between now and Saturday.

17 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I hated it. The TV coverage couldn't keep up with the pace of the picks.

ABC kept up alright, but their panel was terrible. It's a completely college-centric broadcast with Saban, Herbstreit, and Desmond Howard. No discussion at all of where teams might go, needs, strategy, any of it. Field Yates was ostensibly their "insider" but didn't offer anything to the broadcast. The woman backstage doing the family interviews was okay, but the NFLN broadcast used to be much better overall.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

They could just tell Schefter and the others to quit spoiling picks but they must be first to give out the info

Finally something you and I can agree on. I watch the draft ever year with two of my buddies and every year they want to watch ESPN and I say Schefter spoils the big surprise picks and we should watch NFL network instead. Last night he says something to the effect of "The Rams have done their work on Ty Simpson" and I said to them he just spoiled the pick and they were like nah he just said they did their work on him. Two minutes later who do they take but Ty Simpson and the biggest surprise pick of the night got ruined. They finally agreed with me. Needles to say, we watched NFLN the rest of the night.

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

They could stop the practice of calling the prospects and ensuring that they are alive and out of jail. Then we’d all find out at the same time (in theory).

Add a rule where teams are only allowed to call after Goodell or whoever announces the pick. It'd probably add more realism to the reaction too

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

these people and their forcing OL picks... jesus christ thats bad. Tiernan and Farmer are both going to bust here.

Tiernan is ok to me, not good or bad. He is basically Blake Miller who went 17th. I don't like the Farmer pick at 98 at all.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

these people and their forcing OL picks... jesus christ thats bad. Tiernan and Farmer are both going to bust here.

I’ve said this even before the end of last year, I think the Eagles like Cameron Williams, Kendall and Hinton more than other people do on this board. IMO their mindset was with a year or 2 that these guys could be good backups and potentially even starters. I said then, and I will say it now, I don’t see the Eagles taking 2 offensive lineman with their top four picks. I see them taking one, but unless the board just fell perfectly where the best available player was consistently offensive line. I don’t think they’re gonna force that. I wouldnt be surprised if the Eagles walk away with an offensive lineman, tight end and a safety if they use all three picks today.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I'll just reiterate that the Eagles generally hit home runs when they draft explosive physical talents in need of seasoning.

They have a very high failure rate when drafting limited players without overwhelming explosive talent. So I need the team, more so than Lemon, to prove me wrong that they can actually convert this type of prospect into a stud before I'll believe in Lemon.

You've made your point excessively for the past 15 hours. We get it, you don't trust the Eagles to develop guys with perceived high floors and lower ceilings. Move on. Not that the following matters at all, but it's the incessant pounding of a singular point of view that makes people want to ignore your posts along with others who do the same. It's fun and entertaining to come here to read what people think but most of us don't need 15 posts to get your point.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Only thing he mentioned was this after a one line blurb about about the lemon pick/trade.

Obvious statement: That won’t be the last time the Eagles make an aggressive move between now and Saturday.

Cool, so it was click bait to try to get people to buy their damn diehard subscription. You know between that type of stuff, the kid gloves they gave to Hoesini after Beau constantly lecturing others about journalistic integrity, and the episode where he and AJ thought it would be cool to do in a British accent PHLY is really going downhill. Losing Zac was so huge since he kind of held everything together. EJ is an absolute FN clown who does nothing but laugh and go off topic about dumb crap nobody cares about.

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Another Tommy blurb

On CJ Allen

"Would the Eagles jump on him at 54? That would seem kinda crazy since they just spent a first rounder on a LB last year. Allen would be Zack Baun’s long term replacement. He could develop for a year or two and then take over. I don’t love the thought of this, but it is hard to argue with Fangio. He’s pushed for a lot of players who have worked out really well so far.

I can’t wait for Thursday night to get here so we can finally see what Howie has in store, in terms of draft picks and possibly trades."

Now, Id say the eagles should be very wary of choosing a Fangio picked LB to develop a year or 2 behind Baun since Fangio is probably likely to be gone before this guy plays. A guy to play for Fangio now, sure. A guy to play for Fangio 3 years from now? WHAT??? No.

But I wonder if the eagles interest in CJ Allen indicates a willingness to trade Baun. @vikas83 @LeanMeanGM what are the cap implications? Tradable or not really?

From an Eagles perspective, there isn't anything salary related from preventing them. It's an additional $5M hit to trade him now, about $4M in savings after 6/1. If they traded him today the savings from trading Brown would almost be a wash. So it's not cap prohibitive.

The team getting him would have to pay his $17M guaranteed this year and then next year would non guaranteed.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Cool, so it was click bait to try to get people to buy their damn diehard subscription. You know between that type of stuff, the kid gloves they gave to Hoesini after Beau constantly lecturing others about journalistic integrity, and the episode where he and AJ thought it would be cool to do in a British accent PHLY is really going downhill. Losing Zac was so huge since he kind of held everything together. EJ is an absolute FN clown who does nothing but laugh and go off topic about dumb crap nobody cares about.

I purchased it when they were having the sale where I got it for like $20. And frankly, I really haven’t even used it. then Zach left and I was like no I’m definitely not using it. Their baseball coverage stinks. Salisbury left and they have seidman but seidman is solid but doesn’t give as much as other outlets. the sixers coverage and flyers coverage is good cause of Charlie. However until the flyers became good they don’t really market it. Plus the sixers are the sixers and really hard to have high hopes with that ownership even if Kyle and bodner do an excellent job.

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

You've made your point excessively for the past 15 hours. We get it, you don't trust the Eagles to develop guys with perceived high floors and lower ceilings. Move on. Not that the following matters at all, but it's the incessant pounding of a singular point of view that makes people want to ignore your posts along with others who do the same. It's fun and entertaining to come here to read what people think but most of us don't need 15 posts to get your point.

Go for it and ignore.

18 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah but I also think you can get away with playing Kendall, or another center prospect at guard in the new system. OZ will require movement skills and a center like Logan Jones in this draft moves like no guards in this draft can.

One of Kendall or Jones at C, and the other at guard. Undersized, but we did it that way with the OZ stuff when Chip was the coach. This scheme allows you to get away with smaller OL. Kelce and Mathis paring...

They have lampkin as well.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I prefer to label it a poor tolerance of deviation from perfection. I'm sure the blog has other words for it.

I understand going BPA and reacting to the board. At the same time, if the Eagles are gonna get their OT of the future, it's never likely going to fall into their laps unless they just have a disaster season and pick in the top 10. Or they trade for a pick of a team that picks in the top 10. OTs go early in every draft. It's just what it is. So if the Eagles are gonna be picking in the 20s every year because they're good and aren't willing to surrender the draft picks necessary to move up high enough to get one and just keep taking BPA available... ok fine, but you're never gonna get your OT of the future that way. Assuming OT of the future is a desired elite OT prospect.