You have sources (probably ousted coaches) blame the players this season(majorly Hurts) which makes sense since they were likely bitter. And then you have Stoutland in part blame the coaching for the offense which makes sense since he’s probably bitter about his whole role got handled by the coaching staff.

Hard to get an unbiased view of what went down and who is truly to blame. The easy answer is a little bit of everyone.

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap or immediately after. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

They weren't getting the play calls in until there was next to no time left on the clock. The offense had become completely predictable too. First down? Running it right up the middle into a hole that doesn't exist. Every single time. They new exactly what the defenses were going to play against their offensive play calls because the defenses knew exactly what the offense was going to run. It was a complete failure of coaching by an incompetent OC that stripped Stoutland of his running game coordinator position and he clearly isn't happy about it all and clearly taking a shot at that incompetent OC.

3 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Mike Vrabels first day back on the job

Don't associate Kevin James with that scum bag.

He even started by saying "execution”. It’s pretty obvious he’s talking about both players and coaches

31 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap or immediately after. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

Yeah…I think the only person who will agree with you is that hazleton troll. Running a bad play into a bad defense is running a play from a condensed formation into 8-9 in the box…it is running 4 verticals into a 2x2 zone defense not just when the entire season on the line but over and over again. The definition of insanity is doing something over and over knowing full well what the outcome is going to be and doing it anyway. That is all on Patullo and it was evident from the very first game last year…and Sirianni turned a blind eye trusting him until it was way too late.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He even started by saying "execution”. It’s pretty obvious he’s talking about both players and coaches

I don't any of it means much. They always say execution and play sequencing. And it doesn't even matter at this point. He's an all time coach but honestly he had too much power. He's not an OC

1 minute ago, aptosbird said:

Yeah…I think the only person who will agree with you is that hazleton troll. Running a bad play into a bad defense is running a play from a condensed formation into 8-9 in the box…it is running 4 verticals into a 2x2 zone defense not just when the entire season on the line but over and over again. The definition of insanity is doing something over and over knowing full well what the outcome is going to be and doing it anyway. That is all on Patullo and it was evident from the very first game last year…and Sirianni turned a blind eye trusting him until it was way too late.

It’s not a "Hurts is terrible” opinion. And Patullo has a large share of blame. But I think some of what Stoutland says applies to both. The reporting that just came out was Hurts had at times called an audible to an extensive degree deviating from the game plan. Would that not apply to running bad plays into bad defenses? We saw he took a step back in reluctance to run in 2025, would that not apply to making the wrong option reads and running bad plays into bad defenses? The reporting also said it was Jalen who suggested 4 verts with the season on the line.

I’m very well aware a lot of the sourcing from the reports came from Patullo but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say Jalen had a part in running bad plays into bad defenses. We’ve seen it at the end of the Seattle game in 2023 and at other points like against Green Bay in 2025. When the head coach is seen on TV yelling "what are you doing” I can’t just blame the OC for everything.

36 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

You have sources (probably ousted coaches) blame the players this season(majorly Hurts) which makes sense since they were likely bitter. And then you have Stoutland in part blame the coaching for the offense which makes sense since he’s probably bitter about his whole role got handled by the coaching staff.

Hard to get an unbiased view of what went down and who is truly to blame. The easy answer is a little bit of everyone.

That's life. When something goes to ruin, there's usually blame to go around. Can't change everything. Whatever can be changed...get's changed and gets blamed. And that's last year's offensive coaching staff. (And, for the Phillies, that's Topper).

This year, Hurts is up next. So he has an enormous amount of pressure on him. The tragic irony is that a new system to adjust to and a receiver-by-committee with only one real weapon...he actually may not be high on the problem list for their impending 2026 offensive woes. But by next offseason, he'll be the thing that can be changed. And so it goes.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into a bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

We could pin that on Hurts IF he had enough time to survey the defense and change the play. Getting the play in early was a huge issue that many discussed. In fact, Mailata brought it up early in the season and it never got corrected. That's on the play caller imo

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

I like Mukuba, and the other position is 'open'. Fortunately, the next big game isn't for another 4 1/2 months.

I feel fairly confident Howie will find a player at comparable performance for less than half the cost.

Let's hope so

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap or immediately after. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

Meanwhile, Smitty & Barkley have credited Hurts with audibles into successful plays. 🤷🏻‍♂️

5 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Meanwhile, Smitty & Barkley have credited Hurts with audibles into successful plays. 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s almost like both things can be true

14 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

We could pin that on Hurts IF he had enough time to survey the defense and change the play. Getting the play in early was a huge issue that many discussed. In fact, Mailata brought it up early in the season and it never got corrected. That's on the play caller imo

Again, there are post snap reads. It’s not just reading at the line and adjusting, especially in their offense

Bad plays into bad defenses is on both Hurts and Patullo, but it’s a case by case basis.

Jags considered trading a 2027 1 for a late 2026 1 and a second day pick. Like I said, this draft sucked and some teams would see next year’s 1 as more valuable.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He even started by saying "execution”. It’s pretty obvious he’s talking about both players and coaches

That's true. Players also take accountability and talk about execution. I shouldn't have made it seem he was only blaming Patullo.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap or immediately after. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

To a degree that’s on Hurts, but all season Patullo was late getting plays into the huddle. Hurts is very good adjusting at the line, but last year he wasn’t afforded the time to. He barely had time for line adjustments, let alone audibles. A few of us brought it up early in the season before it became so bad the media called it out too.

There are defensive players that looked bad, made poor decisions and bad execution in 2023...then looked great under Fangio's coaching.

Coaching matters.

There are QBs that change teams and play better under better coaching. There are free agents who play better with their new team.

The entire offense was put in bad position by the coaching. The run plays, usage of TE personnel, rolling out injured O linemen, the play calls being predictable, calls getting in with only seconds left on the play clock, cowards draws on 3rd and long, not using Bigsby enough...these things had nothing to do with Hurts.

Hurts had his problems. AJ had his problems. Mailata owned his problems in blocking. A team that is poorly coached by a clueless OC who had never called plays and a Head Coach who did nothing to change things hurt their players.

That's why they've hired a bunch of new coaches and are completely changing schemes.

14 minutes ago, NOTW said:

That's true. Players also take accountability and talk about execution. I shouldn't have made it seem he was only blaming Patullo.

It definitely seemed like a lot was aimed at Patullo. I just think when things go that bad considering the talent you have it’s more than just one thing. Health on the O-Line also played a huge hand in how crap the offense was.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That’s a different argument and doesn’t really apply when reading post snap 

Reading post snap has nothing to do with what the quote is about though. Hurts was bad last year though…in most, if not all facets of the game.

Really came out with the shields to defend Hurts

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It definitely seemed like a lot was aimed at Patullo. I just think when things go that bad considering the talent you have it’s more than just one thing. Health on the O-Line also played a huge hand in how crap the offense was.

It was a ball of poop rolling down a hill of poop all year. Just kept getting bigger and bigger. Playcalling was beyond terrible, tempo - terrible, Hurts wanting to be a ‘pocket QB’ and only make it 2 reads - terrible, running the OL ragged and beating them up before week 4 - terrible.

On 4/26/2026 at 5:02 PM, HazletonEagle said:

Yep. 6ers would somehow be involved in an embarrassing storyline. That checks out.

On 4/26/2026 at 5:06 PM, Diehardfan said:

That has to be fake. I read he was a video game designer with a degree in mechanical engineering. WTH would he be doing with the 76ers?

On 4/26/2026 at 5:12 PM, HazletonEagle said:

He is from California I think? But it does say former so I dont know. Could have been in Philly previously. Likely fake though. Its probably fake news fishing for Josh Harris/Epstein comments like the one I made in the 6ers thread.

JFC, it’s a chop. They didn’t even bother to use a different pic on the right… it’s the source material.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Calling the right plays at the right time = Patullo

Not running bad plays into bad defenses = Hurts

Hurts is the one surveying the defense at the line and running plays. Eagles run a lot of read and spread option concepts. By "bad defenses” I’m assuming Stoutland means running plays into unfavorable matchups based on what the defense is showing pre-snap or immediately after. I don’t know how Patullo could run bad plays into bad defenses when the play is called before they know what the defense appears to be doing.

How about the four verticals on the last play against SF?

18 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

It definitely seemed like a lot was aimed at Patullo. I just think when things go that bad considering the talent you have it’s more than just one thing. Health on the O-Line also played a huge hand in how crap the offense was.

There’s always blame to go around. Team game…

But any list of blame that doesn’t have Patullo at the top is a pretty faulty list