With any luck the Hurts debates will be over 1 way or another after this year.

26 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

He only left out 2021 as a full time starter. It's still a pretty good stat. Why are his good stats ignore or minimized? Best stats: since 2021 3rd in league with 56 wins. Plus 2 SBs.

Should we look at the average including 2022 or the trend since...

2021: 19th QBR, 14th EPA

2022: 4th, 3rd

2023: 12th, 4th

2024: 10th, 12th

2025: 20th, 13th

QBR: Adjusted Total Quarterback Rating, which values the quarterback on all play types on a 0-100 scale adjusted for the strength of opposing defenses faced.

EPA: Total expected points added with low leverage plays, according to ESPN Win Probability model, down-weighted.

4 minutes ago, greend said:

With any luck the Hurts debates will be over 1 way or another after this year.

If/when he goes it will just shift to whoever is the next starter. Some people are just miserable Fs

46 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

He only left out 2021 as a full time starter. It's still a pretty good stat. Why are his good stats ignore or minimized? Best stats: since 2021 3rd in league with 56 wins. Plus 2 SBs.

Who said his good stats are ignored or minimized?

24 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Why do "fans" feel the need to disparage every positive thing that's said about Hurts?

You constantly whenever I say something not praising Hurts

40 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The casuals who love Hurts dont realize how much that is an AJ Brown stat and how it will look different now that he doesnt have TWO WRs who are so elite at ball tracking and adjusting to underthrown balls and bringing down an unnecessarily contested catch at the other end of the Hurts rainbow.

The stat does not need to be minimized anyway. You can look at that stat and still easily take 8 of those 10 other QBs over Hurts.

I can't believe I'm hearing this from you. Shocking. When did you change your opinion on Hurts?

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

You constantly whenever I say something not praising Hurts

What you don't seem to understand is they are pulling the stats for all those guys from the same time frame - they aren't pulling only good Jalen Hurts years and comparing them against all the other guys' bad years. So your argument just makes you look even more retarded. But please do carry-on!

2 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I can't believe I'm hearing this from you. Shocking. When did you change your opinion on Hurts?

Juneteenth

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

You constantly whenever I say something not praising Hurts

Nah, I'm firmly middle of the road on Hurts. I see his flaws and his abilities. Well documented. I think it's those who only see flaws that are the wallflowers in here. They post incessantly about it while boasting if being "smart, football people." I'm pretty sure the photo is an HE self portrait.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

Juneteenth

Revelation day! Good for you.

Just now, mikemack8 said:

What you don't seem to understand is they are pulling the stats for all those guys from the same time frame - they aren't pulling only good Jalen Hurts years and comparing them against all the other guys' bad years. So your argument just makes you look even more retarded. But please do carry-on!

I dont see whats the big deal over 1 stat. Its just 1 stat and as such is still completely unconvincing of him being a good QB.

Just now, Freshmilk said:

Revelation day! Good for you.

deep reflection

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I dont see whats the big deal over 1 stat. Its just 1 stat and as such is still completely unconvincing of him being a good QB.

I agree. But that tweet didn't list that stat and then make the proclamation that because of that, Hurts was the greatest QB who ever lived. Mike90210 just needs to be whiny weirdo about everything.

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

What you don't seem to understand is they are pulling the stats for all those guys from the same time frame - they aren't pulling only good Jalen Hurts years and comparing them against all the other guys' bad years. So your argument just makes you look even more retarded. But please do carry-on!

Not crap dummy. That was the point. It's comparing Most of Hurts stats to players with vastly more years to make Hurts look better

And they are because they're ignoring when Hurts actually started playing

But please do keep crying!

Just now, Freshmilk said:

Nah, I'm firmly middle of the road on Hurts. I see his flaws and his abilities. Well documented. I think it's those who only see flaws that are the wallflowers in here. They post incessantly about it while boasting if being "smart, football people." I'm pretty sure the photo is an HE self portrait.

That was for the other guy

Just now, mikemack8 said:

I agree. But that tweet didn't list that stat and then make the proclamation that because of that, Hurts was the greatest QB who ever lived. Mike90210 just needs to be whiny weirdo about everything.

46 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If there is a room for elite ball knowledge thats where I will be.

Sure Jan

5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Get your poor feelings hurt when people don't bash hurts like you want to. It'll be ok

59 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The casuals who love Hurts dont realize how much that is an AJ Brown stat and how it will look different now that he doesnt have TWO WRs who are so elite at ball tracking and adjusting to underthrown balls and bringing down an unnecessarily contested catch at the other end of the Hurts rainbow.

The stat does not need to be minimized anyway. You can look at that stat and still easily take 8 of those 10 other QBs over Hurts.

Are you sure that Lemon won’t be elite at ball tracking and adjusting? He sure was in college, winning the Biletnikoff.

Just now, BigEFly said:

Are you sure that Lemon won’t be elite at ball tracking and adjusting? He sure was in college, winning the Biletnikoff.

I dont recall him being a deep threat in college. Of course, that was a very short time ago and my long term memory has always been much better than my short term memory.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Are you sure that Lemon won’t be elite at ball tracking and adjusting? He sure was in college, winning the Biletnikoff.

Lemon should be a huge improvement if we're actually going with timing and the different direction. That's pretty exciting

35 minutes ago, greend said:

With any luck the Hurts debates will be over 1 way or another after this year.

You must be new here…

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles tied with Saints and Cowboys for latest start to TC

Not only is it a very late start but the rookies report the same day as the vets. Hard to properly evaluate rookies and get them ready for the season when they spend such little time in training camp.

2 minutes ago, Eagles1960 said:

Not only is it a very late start but the rookies report the same day as the vets. Hard to properly evaluate rookies and get them ready for the season when they spend such little time in training camp.

Lemon missed the OTAs due to a hamstring, and Stowers was basically invisible... the big rookie OT supplanted the 2025 version, so that's good, as he might get a lot of PT this summer.

16 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Such a dumb stat. He is probably dead last in redzone passing TD's.

27 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Such a dumb stat. He is probably dead last in redzone passing TD's.