4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Still need a true PG, or at least a bench PG. Wouldn't be the worst thing, but it would be a little disappointing to continue trying to collect guards and suck on the wings. And suck at the backup big positions. And suck basically everywhere.

Indeed. We do need a PG but we need all the rest more.

Just now, Freshmilk said:

Indeed. We do need a PG but we need all the rest more.

Yes. We do need to ship PG out of town. 😄

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Im not even sure what the point is to sign Carter immediately. He’s not signing for a discount and you aren’t really signing a guy with untapped potential for cheaper. I basically see it as you sign him today to be the richest DT while taking on the risk of maturity or injury issues. Or you make him prove for another year the injury concerns are fine and he is mature enough to handle a prove it year. In the end it’s going to be basically the same deal, maybe slightly more. But it’s DT, this isn’t a QB/WR/Edge where new guys reset the market every month.

I think you would save some money doing it now. Likely not a ton, but also possibly. If the guy goes out and gets 10 sacks and is in DPOY discussion then I think it would be definitely higher.

The thing is, whatever perceived questions of maturity there are, which I think are largely overstated, those will not go away in a year either. The one thing would be if there are questions about his shoulders, but from what I understand there are none within the Eagles.

5 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I think you would save some money doing it now. Likely not a ton, but also possibly. If the guy goes out and gets 10 sacks and is in DPOY discussion then I think it would be definitely higher.

The thing is, whatever perceived questions of maturity there are, which I think are largely overstated, those will not go away in a year either. The one thing would be if there are questions about his shoulders, but from what I understand there are none within the Eagles.

Any idea what info Most Accurate Reporter has on the situation?

Eagles thought they would save money by paying Cam Jurgens last offseason. Should have treated him like they did Dean. See if he was fully back and then pay him. Wouldn't be much of a difference. Think there's a lesson to learn from that. Carter has had 1 great year. In a great defensive tackle room with Milt Williams, JD and MO. Sign him next offseason if he kills it. For now, you keep optionality with MO and others. Once you sign JC, you are locked in to pretty much only signing Cooper and Q. And maybe Jalyx (could be out of range with a great year this year). Still have Hurts, Devanta and Mailata with huge contract extensions coming up as well. And Steen is probably gone next offseason for sure with a JC signing. This should be a show me year for this entire roster.

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Any idea what info Most Accurate Reporter has on the situation?

No but I'm sure he's hard at work getting info. Every single info he's given has been right so will post it if I see anything.

He has been burned by giving out contracts on potential that wasn't met because of injury

Kempski is doing his dumpster fire series this week.

My thoughts on the Eagles' potential flaws:

• First time OC that hasn't called plays

• Hurts adapting to a new scheme

• Replacing AJ

• Health/depth of the OL

• Replacing the leadership of Dean and Blankenship

• The other Safety

• Jake Elliot

I would be reaching to find another 3.

• Is Saquon done?

• Goedert and the TEs

• Split the OL point into two - health of starters and then depth behind them

• Something about Sirianni

Thoughts?

6 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Any idea what info Most Accurate Reporter has on the situation?

Just read that Shane Steichen was fired in Indy. He's a top news source for me.

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Eagles thought they would save money by paying Cam Jurgens last offseason. Should have treated him like they did Dean. See if he was fully back and then pay him. Wouldn't be much of a difference. Think there's a lesson to learn from that. Carter has had 1 great year. In a great defensive tackle room with Milt Williams, JD and MO. Sign him next offseason if he kills it. For now, you keep optionality with MO and others. Once you sign JC, you are locked in to pretty much only signing Cooper and Q. And maybe Jalyx (could be out of range with a great year this year). Still have Hurts and Mailata with huge contract extensions coming as well.  And Steen is probably gone next offseason for sure with a JC signing.

This makes it seem like Mailata's isn't for a bit

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/25334/jordan-mailata

I'd refer to vikas, lmgm, and the others that are better with the contracts and caps though

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Kempski is doing his dumpster fire series this week.

My thoughts on the Eagles' potential flaws:

• First time OC that hasn't called plays

• Hurts adapting to a new scheme

• Replacing AJ

• Health/depth of the OL

• Replacing the leadership of Dean and Blankenship

• The other Safety

• Jake Elliot

I would be reaching to find another 3.

• Is Saquon done?

• Goedert and the TEs

• Split the OL point into two - health of starters and then depth behind them

• Something about Sirianni

Thoughts?

All pretty valid. Jake could end up losing us some close games

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

This makes it seem like Mailata's isn't for a bit

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/25334/jordan-mailata

I'd refer to vikas, lmgm, and the others that are better with the contracts and caps though

It's more about guaranteed money. Very little left at this point, going forward. Also, the dude is really underpaid at this time at $22M a year.

35 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Im not even sure what the point is to sign Carter immediately. He’s not signing for a discount and you aren’t really signing a guy with untapped potential for cheaper. I basically see it as you sign him today to be the richest DT while taking on the risk of maturity or injury issues. Or you make him prove for another year the injury concerns are fine and he is mature enough to handle a prove it year. In the end it’s going to be basically the same deal, maybe slightly more. But it’s DT, this isn’t a QB/WR/Edge where new guys reset the market every month.

The point is very simple. Do it now, or at least soon or wait and pay way more.

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Kempski is doing his dumpster fire series this week.

My thoughts on the Eagles' potential flaws:

• First time OC that hasn't called plays

• Hurts adapting to a new scheme

• Replacing AJ

• Health/depth of the OL

• Replacing the leadership of Dean and Blankenship

• The other Safety

• Jake Elliot

I would be reaching to find another 3.

• Is Saquon done?

• Goedert and the TEs

• Split the OL point into two - health of starters and then depth behind them

• Something about Sirianni

Thoughts?

Mannion being a newbie

Team having to learn an entirely new scheme in one offseason(could fall under Mannion)

Hurts not being that good since 2022

Health of OL

Chris Kuper replacing Stoutland

No AJ... what if Wicks and Lemon don't look good?

Safety

Elliott

Sirianni not doing much of the x's and o's anymore, but the 2025 Eagles sucked at all the tough, detailed, together stuff... team starting to tune him out?

Not sure what my 10th would be. Possibly TE given Goedert is still your TE1 last season and he fell off pretty big as a blocker and everything but TDs really. And TE will be needed more than ever losing a key WR.

3 minutes ago, just relax said:

The point is very simple. Do it now, or at least soon or wait and pay way more.

It's only paying more if he produces like 2024. I'd say it's a flip of a coin and not that obvious and certain that he does. He should be a value early signing at this point or nothing. For now. Eagles have good leverage here because they have MO at DT that they can pay for maybe half as much. Very tempting.

Btw in regards to Jalen Carter I've said a handful of "He hasn't been great every season" takes from the interwebs.

DT is a position that takes a long time to develop. Probably more than any other position. Even some HOF DTs took until year 3 or 4 to break out.

I'd be willing to guess that Jalen Carter's first two years in the NFL are in the 99th percentile of first two years of all NFL DTs who've ever played, and year 3 I give a pass because he was playing injured the whole season. Two shoulder injuries would be crippling for a DT. The arms of a DT are everything. The guy is a generational talent who has started his career on a HOF trajectory.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

You too are looking at the exception (the weakest link or flaw) and making it the rule. Instead of spending your time looking for and recounting it, why don’t you start with the best of the WC so far. How has that best compared to the best of the round robin phase of past World Cups? Even more important would be a comparison of what the typical or median team play has been.

Using the score distribution numbers again, the 12 three point plus margin games are offset by the 12 draws, leaving the 8 one goal margin games and the 8 two goal margin games as the typical/median examples. How have those gone? Has the quality of the entertainment diminished? England-Croatia and USA-Australia were two of those typical/median games. How did you assess them for the entertainment value they delivered? Or the quality of play they displayed?

I've been to games where 0-0 has been exciting + end to end + tactical, and a 4-1 game has been a bit dull and forgettable. So assessing the entertainment value ifor me is tricky but I am not interested in seeing a similar standard that I watch - the novelty factor that some fairly have isn't a driver. I won't watch Iran vs a 50 ranked team as there are both no consequences and little top football. France vs Spain, sign me up.

I saw bits of USA vs Australia and it was ok without being that engaged in it - but if I was an American, it would be great for a number of factors. England vs Croatia was more exciting because it was more back and forth, and there were high quality moments from both sides.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Alexi Lalas seemed to bemoan the fact that Philadelphia Stadium didn't have a dome to deal with the rain yesterday... is it a fair-weather sport? While it rained hard in stretches, there wasn't any lightning.

Agreed, that the game had a 1 seed vs 16 seed vibe, the Frenchees were just playing with their food.

The BBC TV commentators were moaning about getting wet in the Linc - it seemed they were in the stands vs a box, the roof leaked, and they weren't prepared. But were at pains to point out if lightning was in 8 miles of the Linc, there was going to be a delay of 30 mins. Not something I've experienced IRL tho

As for France, I've been on the Iraq side of things and you can tell when the better team is just doing that. Mbappe for 1-0 was like yeah, he turned it on.

1 hour ago, greend said:

Was there a poll that I missed?

You're treasured on the board ......... but banned from that poll.

3 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Time flies

Lots of winners in that single tweet lol

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

I think you would save some money doing it now. Likely not a ton, but also possibly. If the guy goes out and gets 10 sacks and is in DPOY discussion then I think it would be definitely higher.

The thing is, whatever perceived questions of maturity there are, which I think are largely overstated, those will not go away in a year either. The one thing would be if there are questions about his shoulders, but from what I understand there are none within the Eagles.

I think the maturity thing is a bit overstated but he did have the spitting thing and a few sideline moments. Having him play another year on his rookie contract might create a situation that tests him in a way. If he doesn’t mope around, comes in shape and plays great, then it’s worth the little extra. But if he lets his contract situation get to him and affect him on field or in the locker room, then it might cause some hesitation to make him the highest paid DT in the league.

58 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Btw in regards to Jalen Carter I've said a handful of "He hasn't been great every season" takes from the interwebs.

DT is a position that takes a long time to develop. Probably more than any other position. Even some HOF DTs took until year 3 or 4 to break out.

I'd be willing to guess that Jalen Carter's first two years in the NFL are in the 99th percentile of first two years of all NFL DTs who've ever played, and year 3 I give a pass because he was playing injured the whole season. Two shoulder injuries would be crippling for a DT. The arms of a DT are everything. The guy is a generational talent who has started his career on a HOF trajectory.

That's why he has no contract right now. Giving a huge contract to a guy coming off a season where had had shoulder issues all year would be unwise, because if it ends up being a chronic issue you just paid a premium for damaged goods.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Kempski is doing his dumpster fire series this week.

My thoughts on the Eagles' potential flaws:

• First time OC that hasn't called plays

• Hurts adapting to a new scheme

• Replacing AJ

• Health/depth of the OL

• Replacing the leadership of Dean and Blankenship

• The other Safety

• Jake Elliot

I would be reaching to find another 3.

• Is Saquon done?

• Goedert and the TEs

• Split the OL point into two - health of starters and then depth behind them

• Something about Sirianni

Thoughts?

I would say it’s both Safeties. I think Makuba is still an unknown. Vic also at one point said something along the lines of Blankenship masking a lot of mistakes by Makuba.

I think it’s a stretch but you could also say pass rush isn’t good enough. Greenard has his own injury issues and had two really good years but was up and down other than that. They have depth but it could be like last year if Greenard struggles.

10 minutes ago, devpool said:

That's why he has no contract right now. Giving a huge contract to a guy coming off a season where had had shoulder issues all year would be unwise, because if it ends up being a chronic issue you just paid a premium for damaged goods.

I would have more concerns about that than him being a terrible character guy or work ethic, but I've seen at least 5 Eagles reporters come out and say Jalen Carter's shoulders are 100% and not a problem. And I believe Fangio said this too.

And Fangio is a straight shooter, if Carter's shoulders were an issue he'd have said it he wouldn't have held back.

That doesn't mean that it can't crop up again, but I don't recall any long term shoulder medical red flags with him coming into the draft, so until proven otherwise I'm just going to assume it was a one year injury that eventually healed.

1 hour ago, just relax said:

The point is very simple. Do it now, or at least soon or wait and pay way more.

But what’s way more. You are making him the highest paid now or making him the highest paid later. And like I said, DT is a position that doesn’t top itself at the pace other positions do. Simmons just set the market and the only guy that will come close soon is Quinnen Williams. I think you pay more, I just don’t think it’s a situation of getting ahead of the market and paying way more.

He wasn't going to get taken anyway aside from all the fake news about teams using a 2nd on him. I suspect the NFL getting intel that he wasn't gonna get taken led to this.