1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

I heard he didn't even know it was cut down day.

Asleep at the wheel again.

1 minute ago, devpool said:

The aaron Donald move does nothing for the rams, the defense was already good. He isnt going to play at the level he was at 2 years ago, although a lot of rams fans are confident he's still going to be a monster. I bet by week 15 he regrets coming out of retirement

Does anyone remember when Reggie White came back for the Panthers? Or Michael Jordan came back with the Wizards?

Most of the NFL teams suck, the Eagles still have a contender roster, great defense that's probably a top 3-4, a HC who's made the playoffs every year.

The roster bubble players aren't going to make or break the team. We like certain guys and prefer they made some different decisions but the starters are solid.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

dont forget who is back in the front office with him this year.

Joe Douglas.

Eli Stowers was probably Joe Douglas's Red Star player.

3 minutes ago, devpool said:

The aaron Donald move does nothing for the rams, the defense was already good. He isnt going to play at the level he was at 2 years ago, although a lot of rams fans are confident he's still going to be a monster. I bet by week 15 he regrets coming out of retirement

I think he still can be by mid season. He retired young. Now he's playing along side basically what he was before he retired, the undisputed best defensive player in the league.

7 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

They

Had

To

Trade

Him

Good lord. Move on.

I read a comment today on YouTube from someone who said they should have kept AJ Brown, traded Hurts, and drafted a passing QB instead of taking Lemon at pick #20. I reminded him that Mendoza and Ty Simpson were off the board by pick #13 and asked him which passing QB the Eagles should have drafted with their pick. IIRC Carson Beck was the next QB drafted — in the 3rd round, #65 overall.

I haven’t gotten a reply yet.

Just now, NCiggles said:

Eli Stowers was probably Joe Douglas's Red Star player.

I said after the draft that that one didnt feel like the others of recent years with Howie running it. We were ALL less excited about this class in the immediate aftermath. Especially the value of some of the moves.

Now, people are seeing Lemon as underwhelming, Stowers doesnt look like a football player at all, Cole Payton didnt look rosterable. Wisniewski was cut.... Markelle Bell is looking really good and so far thats it.

Yes, too early to put the final grade on a draft class. But this one has had the Joe Douglas stink all over it from the beginning and early returns are worrying. Which is no surprise at all. Joe Douglas is terrible.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

Most of the NFL teams suck, the Eagles still have a contender roster, great defense that's probably a top 3-4, a HC who's made the playoffs every year.

The roster bubble players aren't going to make or break the team. We like certain guys and prefer they made some different decisions but the starters are solid.

We've lost games because of trying to get too cute with the bottom of the roster. Remember Greg Lewis trying to field punts in the opener against GB?

It's possible we might be able to bring Covey back, but keeping Payton and Dalton at the expense of your starting and reliable PR sure seems like deja vu to me.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Disappointing they cut both OL they drafted last year.

They also drafted Kendall in the 5th, kept him, he's played well and some think he could start if needed.

The other 2 were 6th round projects.

This year's OL picks are looking much better already plus last year he traded for Lampkin who also looks good.

So overall they've greatly improved OL depth.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We've lost games because of trying to get too cute with the bottom of the roster. Remember Greg Lewis trying to field punts in the opener against GB?

It's possible we might be able to bring Covey back, but keeping Payton and Dalton at the expense of your starting and reliable PR sure seems like deja vu to me.

The Greg Lewis thing was almost 20 years ago.

I’m not in love with this draft but I think Lemon will be a solid slot WR and finding a RT would be huge. The draft was weak.

I don’t see anything that happened today as impacting the season either way.

I expect this year’s defense to be very good and I’m hoping the OL bring healthier and a different scheme will help the running game because our RBs are very good. The passing game is the big unknown

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We've lost games because of trying to get too cute with the bottom of the roster. Remember Greg Lewis trying to field punts in the opener against GB?

It's possible we might be able to bring Covey back, but keeping Payton and Dalton at the expense of your starting and reliable PR sure seems like deja vu to me.

Yeah you're right that it can impact. The current regime has won a SB and been a contender, and an overall better roster so I'm hopeful.

54 minutes ago, jwill2420 said:

After looking at the roster I think the Eagles will miss AJ Brown more than they probably would like to admit.

Keeping Brown would have forced the offense to look like it did last year. Most fans were tired of watching us force 3rd down passes to a covered WR just to keep him from making a scene. Honestly, if you want to se something different this year, Brown had to go. Now, hopefully, everybody on the field will be playing for the team, not individual glory.

I really don't think the system we use will be a whole lot different than last year. What I expect to stand out is contributions from more players. If we can simply cut down on the three and outs, and improve our 3rd and 4th down conversion percentage, we will naturally extend drives and provide more opportunities for touches. I expect us to see more players involved in the passing game.

We may not be risking losing our PR, Covey because Lemon might be our punt returner.

32 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Most national reporters see Wentz as the Vikings #2 behind Murray, which means he’ll be starting quite a few games this year.

McCarthy was never going to be cut. The Vikings are looking for a trade partner to dump him off to. Likely the reason Brosmer was kept on the roster as the 4th QB.

I thought it was obvious my comment was a joke...

6 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

I thought it was obvious my comment was a joke...

This isn't a place for jokes.

2 hours ago, jojodancer said:

Jenkins is keeping Ertz's seat warm. One can wish! Howie being very stubborn at TE and Safety. As there have been reasonable deals to be made all offseason and in free agency to make upgrades, when those are 2 weak spots for depth. And all 3 starters are injury prone with Goedert, Makuba and Epps. Maybe he's been waiting for cutdown day. Will see...

Stubborn is the perfect word for this nonsense. They have three safeties on the roster and are a Dallas Goedert injury away from being completely fuct at TE. EJ Jenkins doesn't belong on a terrible NFL roster let alone one that is supposed to be a playoff contender. I kept waiting and waiting for Howie to make a move at both positions and here we are at cut down day and he has done nothing at either.

21 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The Greg Lewis thing was almost 20 years ago

Shhhh

23 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yeah you're right that it can impact. The current regime has won a SB and been a contender, and an overall better roster so I'm hopeful.

To your point, the chances are low that it's going to have an impact, but I'm just jaded by head scratching moves like keeping 4 QBs when two of them can barely be considered warm bodies.

If Lemon and Bell hit, this draft would be good enough in my eyes, but not up to our recent standard. I think of Stowers the way I think of Cole Payton - would be nice if they turned into something, but I’m not holding my breath.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

You do realize that that punt return average is tied for the 19th highest average of all-time, right? He looks like he can break at any moment. He puts no fear in anyone in terms of going the distance, but if you are going to harp on something with Covey as the PR, it shouldn't be his average. He's 0.4 yards behind Devin Hester (who is tied for 11th all-time). Brian Mitchell had a 10.8 yard average and is tied for 37th, Desean Jackson's average was 9.4 and he ranks 137th!

So, a little respect for Covey. He's not scary out there to opponents, but that average that you scoff at is a top 20 all-time average.

Yeah, averaging 11 yards per return when the league average is closer to 8 means that he's "earning" the Eagles about three yards per return above the average. If you guess that there are about three returns per game, that means he's getting about twelve yards per game above the average. Or roughly the equivalent of one first down. That's actually pretty significant in terms of "hidden yardage". And that doesn't even take into account the general "good decision making" and his reliability (yes I know he muffed a punt the other night but historically he's been good with the ball).

I'd be pretty disappointed if Covey isn't fielding punts for the Eagles two weeks from today.

29 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Does anyone remember when Reggie White came back for the Panthers? Or Michael Jordan came back with the Wizards?

8 weeks of getting double teamed or WHAM'ed by TEs or pulling guards and he'll be ready to call it quits

25 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I said after the draft that that one didnt feel like the others of recent years with Howie running it. We were ALL less excited about this class in the immediate aftermath. Especially the value of some of the moves.

Now, people are seeing Lemon as underwhelming, Stowers doesnt look like a football player at all, Cole Payton didnt look rosterable. Wisniewski was cut.... Markelle Bell is looking really good and so far thats it.

Yes, too early to put the final grade on a draft class. But this one has had the Joe Douglas stink all over it from the beginning and early returns are worrying. Which is no surprise at all. Joe Douglas is terrible.

I think you are too critical and probably give him too much credit for the draft picks. I think Barnett was very much a Howie pick. Reagor was a 2020 pick that, I think, was made to appease Doug. Douglas had left in 2019. You were the reason they drafted JJAW and Donnell Pumphrey. So, I am not as worried about his return.

Just now, NCiggles said:

I think you are too critical and probably give him too much credit for the draft picks. I think Barnett was very much a Howie pick. Reagor was a 2020 pick that, I think, was made to appease Doug. Douglas had left in 2019. You were the reason they drafted JJAW and Donnell Pumphrey. So, I am not as worried about his return.

Every time Douglas was in our front office the drafts sucked. When he wasnt, Howie dominated. People here keep telling me no. And it keeps repeating.

49 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Mailata also had a much stronger background in a football adjacent sport and was very accustomed to the physicality associated with football. Bernard had never experienced contact like occurs along the LOS in his life.

Mailata also had elite measurables and explosiveness. Bernard's traits, while impressive, were never elite. It's not like 6-5 305 DTs are hard to find. His best attribute seems to have been his muscular definition. But really, how important is that for a football player? I'm not saying being strong isn't important but rather that being built like a Greek god doesn't really move the needle all that much.

For what it's worth, I thought Bernard looked slow off the ball, played upright, didn't defeat blocks well, struggled to tackle, and overall really didn't look anything special. Unfortunately Ross Tucker poisoned the collective mind of the fans by praising him at every opportunity even when what he did wasn't even anything all that special.

Douglas might be why they kept Elijah Moore. Tho again I think that might be temporary. Let’s see where we are in 24 hours.