51 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That's ok. LMGM tries to be funny but that's not who he is. You can both work on it.

You can’t make those comments if that’s not what I am

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah many of us including you I believe couldn't understand it. Who picked him???? The moment Nick should have been fired is the moment it was him or Jeff.

They’ll say system change and scheme change, but feels like they wanted him for OL coach and not run game coordinator cause no one would take the job. No offense you don’t let a first time OC with no play calling experience not have someone with years of experience there to help him. Feels like stoutland even if not immersed in this scheme/system may have been able to help him.

Coaches get fired in-season for one of 2 reasons: to salvage a season in which the GM/owner still have high expectations or as a F-you to the head coach.

We all know what it was when they fired Chip Kelly with one damn game left.

Prospective coaches pay attention to how you dispatch your current coaches. We witnessed that wrapping Patullo in the solitary blanket of shame and blame and then incinerating him while running it back with the same personnel didn't exactly help them recruit the top OC candidates this offseason.

They'll fire Siri with a big thank you and tribute in the offseason (as they should)

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

This offense should be healthy on paper and matchup wise with Panthers, Commanders and Cowboys all having bad defenses. Giants defense is okay but had only one really good showing against Titans and are giving up up mid to high 20s every other game. The last 3 weeks have been brutal, but there is a nice path to 6-3. I hope the defense is what I think it is. If so, no excuses going forward.

Commanders gave us fits last time

48 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Thanks for more random tweets from nobody. Really proves your point. I’d ask you just make your own points and pod your own thoughts but that’s not who you are. Thomas Pederson probably has some fire tweets though

1 minute ago, tuffstuff07 said:

Commanders gave us fits last time

They are all hard fought division rivalry games, but if we are healthy we should beat the 2 back up QBs in there and the other one in Dak. 😁 Think the offense turns this around with healthy bodies. 24-28 points a game on all of them. That should be enough to win. I guess if there's any positives, our backups are getting reps across the board and we are finding out some things.

20 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I can't ever remember an Eagles team so unable to run the ball. That kills the defense.

Absolutely inept. I know Shipley isnt highly regarded in the blog but, once he went out, Pierce was completely and totally ineffective. Yeah, it was coaching malfeasance to not kick for the touch back, but not kicking the tires on Steele was egregious as well. Now, that was embarrassing

5 hours ago, jwill2420 said:

I’d say the odds are way better kicking it for a touchback even Sirianni knows he screeed up

Sirianni truly has no idea what to think. He only judges decisions based on whether it worked or not. It’s clear he has no process or belief system. He’s all vibes all the time.

If Saints move on from Kellen Moore after the season, I wonder if the Eagles wpuld be interested in hiring him as HC.

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

The other teams make adjustments. Like Carter was kept on check in the.second half. Adjustments that the Eagles are incapable off. I mean their scripted plays suck as well.

So I didn’t see this angle because I was watching the game on my phone at a kids soccer game…

This is absolutely not a defense of Hurts. He has to make that throw catchable, even if it’s severely underthrown… but should we be running a stutter and go against zero blitz with a makeshift OL that gave up pressure on more than half our dropbacks?

I know many will see how open he was and immediately say yes, but that’s kind of a long developing play against immediate pressure.

Thoughts?

Diehard "Doc” Rivers

"Ben is not a 40-point guy. I just don't understand why this is not sinking in in this city... If I'm Ben, I'd get tired of it. Celebrate him and all the things he does well. We don't do that enough.”

It's also time to stop going for it on 4th down with this offense (until proven otherwise).

I don't care what the analytics say, which crush data over 1,000's of instances over time and history and teams. You have to account for the fact that you can only trust this offense to fail. Take the points, punt the football, don't go for it.

4th and 1, 4th and 4, your territory, inside their 10, long field goal, dead zone just beyond midfield....I don't care. Offense should not be on the field on 4th down; they have not earned that trust.

I haven't given up. Can still make the playoffs

Losing to the Panthers might change my mind though

Might be a wrap on his career.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Sirianni truly has no idea what to think. He only judges decisions based on whether it worked or not. I’m ta clear he has no process or belief system. He’s all vibes all the time.

Not just that, for being a CEO coach Clock management at the end of that game was atrocious. He’s not calling plays but he has to be in communication with mannion. On first down if you run the ball and make the Jaguars burn that last timeout, you could do whatever you want on 2nd down. Throw or run to get some yards then call timeout with 3ish seconds if staying bounds. Go out of bounds then on third down just run it while call a timeout with like 3 seconds left. If incomplete then run it to wast clock then use a timeout. this prevents any kickoff discussion as you end the game on Elliott’s kick

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It's also time to stop going for it on 4th down with this offense (until proven otherwise).

I don't care what the analytics say, which crush data over 1,000's of instances over time and history and teams. You have to account for the fact that you can only trust this offense to fail. Take the points, punt the football, don't go for it.

4th and 1, 4th and 4, your territory, inside their 10, long field goal, dead zone just beyond midfield....I don't care. Offense should not be on the field on 4th down; they have not earned that trust.

Seems criminal they never tried fakes when the sneaks worked. Could have been super creative with that

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not that, for being a CEO coach Clock management at the end of that game was atrocious. He’s not calling plays but he has to be in communication with mannion. On first down if you run the ball and make the Jaguars burn that time out, you could do whatever you want on 2nd down. Throw or run to get some yards then call timeout with 3ish seconds if staying bounds. Go out of bounds then on third down just run it while call a timeout with like 3 seconds left. this prevents any kickoff discussion as you end the game on Elliott’s kick

I’m coming around on those who crushed him for kicking the ball in play. I can acknowledge that it wasn’t a slam dunk decision to allow the return as I said earlier.

You’re 100 percent right about managing the clock on the final drive. We should have been kicking with 3 seconds left on the clock.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

So I didn’t see this angle because I was watching the game on my phone at a kids soccer game…

This is absolutely not a defense of Hurts. He has to make that throw catchable, even if it’s severely underthrown… but should we be running a stutter and go against zero blitz with a makeshift OL that gave up pressure on more than half our dropbacks?

I know many will see how open he was and immediately say yes, but that’s kind of a long developing play against immediate pressure.

Thoughts?

I actually would argue everyone ran this right. I like the call. Hurts threw a catchable ball and made the right, bold read. And Wicks was right there.

As Al Pacino says, it's a game of inches. That play started with a 3rd and forever and Patullo, Hurts, and Wicks were an inch and a coin toss away from 6. I don't think that particular play registers on the issue list.

Nah...I'll at least point to Wicks' 4.62 40 yard dash and yearn for faster WRs.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m coming around on those who crushed him for kicking the ball in play. I can acknowledge that it wasn’t a slam dunk decision to allow the return as I said earlier.

You’re 100 percent right about managing the clock on the final drive. We should have been kicking with 3 seconds left on the clock.

The second part is what irritates me more than anything. I am not an NFL head coach or an offensive coordinator. But I have the knowledge and understanding of how that’s supposed to play out. He’s a CEO head coach these are things you HAVE to be good at cause you aren’t calling plays or running offense or defense.

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah many of us including you I believe couldn't understand it. Who picked him???? The moment Nick should have been fired is the moment it was him or Jeff.

I don't believe the new guys brought in are Nick hires. He doesn't know this system or have working relationships with these guys.

It was a bit of a panic hire thought because I think the Eagles felt they could convince Stout to stay on as OL coach only and move to the new scheme.

Between the change in scheme and not having the run game game co-ordinator title anymore, he said Stout out.

The desire for shift in offensive scheme thought I think first came from the top (Howie, Lurie) to see if that can help the team break out of its offensive funk from last year, not Siri. And so far, its not working at all with the current set up (HC with no experience of the system / a very young coach trying to implement / merge with what Eagles do well / this QB etc etc

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I actually would argue everyone ran this right. I like the call. Hurts threw a catchable ball and made the right, bold read. And Wicks was right there.

As Al Pacino says, it's a game of inches. That play started with a 3rd and forever and Patullo, Hurts, and Wicks were an inch and a coin toss away from 6. I don't think that particular play registers on the issue list.

Nah...I'll at least point to Wicks' 4.62 40 yard dash and yearn for faster WRs.

How was it catchable?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The second part is what irritates me more than anything. I am not an NFL head coach or an offensive coordinator. But I have the knowledge and understanding of how that’s supposed to play out. He’s a CEO head coach these are things you HAVE to be good at cause you aren’t calling plays or running offense or defense.

He also should have an analytics guy in his headset explaining the game theory. Why does this keep failing?

maybe a better word than catchable was reasonable. That was a reasonable ball that was just out of reach.

And it’s catchable for a faster wr.