1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I feel like Albert f’n Einstein posting among the likes of Lambo, Hazleton, Eagle45 etc I’m impressed they can even figure out how to login

Mike won't see this because he has us both on ignore (lol) but his first reaction to the credible national reporters and the Philadelphia Eagles organization sharing it on their official social media: "it's a fun story that the fanatics will run with." Yet, he gobbled up all the unnamed anonymous sources trashing Hurts when it's pretty obvious it was Patullo and AJ Brown, disgruntled guys no longer here.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I really don’t think it’s gonna cost them draft. But if I’m an NFL player and I see what just went down, it makes me wonder about whether or not I want to play for that organization as do they care more about winning then my overall health.

We can say what they want that they are a good organization and they win but this is more than football and about a players long term future and his life. Pointing out it isn’t good optically they also just traded Cam Jurgens away when he was diagnosed with a concussion and has yet to play for the ravens yet. I’m not saying you don’t do that trade, but it’s optically a bad look that you traded away a guy with a concussion and now you have this story coming out. And then you have the Maragos story from years ago that’s gonna get played out. Plus then you have the lane Johnson story with Howie that happened in 2018. That’s also gonna be played out. It’s a bad look all around.

The Eagles and doctors put themselves in a bad spot regardless of what the full story is. PR on this is awful and most people go with the first piece of news they see not the follow ups.

Yeah, that makes sense. The only thing is they have built up a lot of good will over the years, but it's not ideal and there is some history that you mentioned. Guess we'll see where the dust settles and how it plays out with Hurts. If he demands to be traded that's going to toss more gas on it.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So, the head trainer, the team doc, the team orthopedist….they aren’t going to know how to personally review an ultrasound for DVT versus superficial clot (at a high level). It’s not their skill set. That’s radiology and/or vascular surgeon (or AI).

They are relying on a report provided to them by one of those entities. And the eagles, to my knowledge, don’t employ any of those types of docs.

So there could be some external error that was introduced into their medical staff. At this point, I’d say the most likely scenario is that the ultrasound was not interpreted correctly. He wouldn’t have played with a known DVT, but I’d bet that’s what he actually had.

But why did they allow him to play with no sleep?

In other news at least the Rams are burning down as well

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The problem isn't the o-line talent. The problem is the runs are poorly designed and not coached well at all.

He isn’t the only one that’s been saying this. Jason Avant said the same exact thing in the post game yesterday. The offensive line is not gonna be 2024 Eagles. However, the Philadelphia Eagles schematically is a major issue whether or not people want to believe it. avant went into detail about it with plays right after the post game. And he’s been saying it for weeks.

Clearly, there is a player personnel issue. However, coaches not making the proper adjustments and tweaks to their scheme to fit. Their personnel is also a problem. This is why I’ve said there are multiple problems going on. It wasn’t just Jalen hurts. It wasn’t just Nick Sirianni. It wasn’t just the personnel. It was all of them in combination with each other.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

In other news at least the Rams are burning down as well

Why would McVay retire? He's only 40

Just now, Diehardfan said:

In other news at least the Rams are burning down as well

Stafford, Garrett and Donald. Way overpumped in here. Old guys...

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

So, the head trainer, the team doc, the team orthopedist….they aren’t going to know how to personally review an ultrasound for DVT versus superficial clot (at a high level). It’s not their skill set. That’s radiology and/or vascular surgeon (or AI).

They are relying on a report provided to them by one of those entities. And the eagles, to my knowledge, don’t employ any of those types of docs.

So there could be some external error that was introduced into their medical staff. At this point, I’d say the most likely scenario is that the ultrasound was not interpreted correctly. He wouldn’t have played with a known DVT, but I’d bet that’s what he actually had.

That's what came to my mind. It sounds like it was discovered after they arrived in London. The testing was most likely done in a London medical facility and, as you said, interpreted by their staff. We'll have to wait to hear the details. The rush to blame the Eagles medical staff and suggest bad blood/lawsuits is imo premature.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

But why did they allow him to play with no sleep?

It does seem like a wild choice.

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

The comments about his medical team leading the way makes a lot more sense now. Hurts likely doesn't trust the team staff, and fairly so

Would make sense. He's seen them throw Dickerson and Jurgens out there injured and must be frustrated at the way this was handled. When a reporter asked him about why he was late coming out of the tunnel in the London game he said he was getting treatment and wouldn't say more and seemed annoyed.

7 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Weak. You were the one doing victory laps in here when Hurts was out and I told you to calm down. You are one big troll who is wrong.....a lot. Fess up.

Thats entirely untrue.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, that makes sense. The only thing is they have built up a lot of good will over the years, but it's not ideal and there is some history that you mentioned. Guess we'll see where the dust settles and how it plays out with Hurts. If he demands to be traded that's going to toss more gas on it.

I think the next shoe to drop is when we hear from Jalen hurts next and if it’s he wants to be traded at the end of the season. I don’t think we’ll hear any of that until the season is over. But I’m very curious to hear what he says

That said if I’m an Eagles player, I’m not going to the team doctor without going to see my personal doctor as well. Because my doctor isn’t dependent on me going out there playing a game and making them money and winning football games.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

But why did they allow him to play with no sleep?

I think we need to figure out what the facts are. Was that them or was that something Hurts decided to do if he wanted to play? The sleep thing sounds bad, and it is, but there was a lot going on and it all happened in a short period of time. Again, this is bad but there is a also a ton of speculation and freaking out going on. I'm curious to see what ends up actually being true. This is also a big story and reporters are fighting for clicks.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Why would McVay retire? He's only 40

Always been reports he could step away early and do analyst job. Probably goes to Stafford retires and they have to hope the QB they drafted works out. Add on Puka is playing for a new deal. He’s in the last year of that deal. Imo this year was really they are going all in for a SB. If they won i totally could see Stafford, Donald and even mcvey retire and they have a rebuild

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

So, the head trainer, the team doc, the team orthopedist….they aren’t going to know how to personally review an ultrasound for DVT versus superficial clot (at a high level). It’s not their skill set. That’s radiology and/or vascular surgeon (or AI).

They are relying on a report provided to them by one of those entities. And the eagles, to my knowledge, don’t employ any of those types of docs.

So there could be some external error that was introduced into their medical staff. At this point, I’d say the most likely scenario is that the ultrasound was not interpreted correctly. He wouldn’t have played with a known DVT, but I’d bet that’s what he actually had.

Its scary how many primary care doctors just hear calf pain and refer to ortho without any sort of basic exam. These people arrive after waiting however long for the next available opening and they present with all signs of possible DVT that primary care never should have missed.

We have a bunch of doctors using ultrasound constantly every day, but they wont attempt a duplex. As you said, its outside of their scope of practice and expertise. From our office, we instantly call the department and get them in immediately for a stat duplex.

Id have to re-read the initial statement from the team, or other reports. But it almost sounded to me like there was a team of London doctors involved didnt it? And they were advising the eagles on what to do after returning home.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Why would McVay retire? He's only 40

Probably would easily get an analyst job or any network would snatch him up which would be less stress

27 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t worry, the Eagles probably won’t give you a lot to root for

I thought we were going to see the new, new offense designed for McKee next Monday?

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the next shooter drop is when we hear from Jalen hurts next and if it’s he wants to be traded at the end of the season. I don’t think we’ll hear any of that until the season is over. But I’m very curious to hear what he says

That said if I’m an Eagles player, I’m not going to the team doctor without going to see my personal doctor as well. Because my doctor isn’t dependent on me going out there playing a game and making them money and winning football games.

If that's the case, Howie/Lurie will hush him to not say anything. Like he did with AJ. His health is number 1 right now. I am not counting him in the long term picture right now. I just see the full picture. If he could play, why would he stay here? This may have run its course. Trust may be breached.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Always been reports he could step away early and do analyst job. Probably goes to Stafford retires and they have to hope the QB they drafted works out. Add on Puka is playing for a new deal. He’s in the last year of that deal. Imo this year was really they are going all in for a SB. If they won i totally could see Stafford, Donald and even mcvey retire

30 secs ahead of me

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He isn’t the only one that’s been saying this. Jason Avant said the same exact thing in the post game yesterday. The offensive line is not gonna be 2024 Eagles. However, the Philadelphia Eagles schematically is a major issue whether or not people want to believe it. avant went into detail about it with plays right after the post game. And he’s been saying it for weeks.

Clearly, there is a player personnel issue. However, coaches not making the proper adjustments and tweaks to their scheme to fit. Their personnel is also a problem. This is why I’ve said there are multiple problems going on. It wasn’t just Jalen hurts. It wasn’t just Nick Sirianni. It wasn’t just the personnel. It was all of them in combination with each other.

Page has no idea what he's watching. He's not trained to break down film. His shtick is blame "the scheme" on everything every year. As if there was a new team this same group would be scoring 30 ppg.

The reality is everything is a problem right now, including the OL. These people just want to live in denial like they did last year so when the Eagles hire a new coach they can talk themselves into the same personnel being great the next season. They did that last year, they changed OCs. How's that working out, Jonny?

Just now, Sack that QB said:

Page has no idea what he's watching. He's not trained to break down film. His shtick is blame "the scheme" on everything every year. As if there was a new team this same group would be scoring 30 ppg.

The reality is everything is a problem right now, including the OL. These people just want to live in denial like they did last year so when the Eagles hire a new coach they can talk themselves into the same personnel being great the next season. They did that last year, they changed OCs. How's that working out, Jonny?

So Jason Avant, who played the game and said the same thing that Johny Paige said, also doesn’t know the game? Interesting how foles, avant and other players have said the same thing. I guess them playing the game does not matter. They just watched the film and they’re just clueless. Lol

Literally, none of them said there weren’t other problems either.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Page has no idea what he's watching. He's not trained to break down film. His shtick is blame "the scheme" on everything every year. As if there was a new team this same group would be scoring 30 ppg.

The reality is everything is a problem right now, including the OL. These people just want to live in denial like they did last year so when the Eagles hire a new coach they can talk themselves into the same personnel being great the next season. They did that last year, they changed OCs. How's that working out, Jonny?

I already had the same assessment as him. You can watch most of these guys win 1 on 1 battles consistently. As soon as a blitz comes, no one knows who is blocking who. Its a mess. It doesnt look like a talent issue to me on the OL at all. This looked like the deepest OL we have had in a long long time.

I think Mannion consistently has WRs open. I think the OL is talented. Where it breaks down is Kuper seems to have been unable to marry the run and pass games, and has a flawed system for blitz pickups, as it was stated earlier in here that his IOL in Minnesota was also horrible in that department.

From a coaching standpoint, Kuper seems like the biggest culprit to me on the offensive side of the ball.

6 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

If that's the case, Howie/Lurie will hush him to not say anything. Like he did with AJ. His health is number 1 right now. I am not counting him in the long term picture right now. I just see the full picture. If he could play, why would he stay here? This may have run its course. Trust may be breached.

None of us know where the trust is at this point. Just knowing what we know about hurts, he was obviously gonna wanna play. But he’s also trusting the opinions/diagnosis of the doctors to make that decision. If they came with, we think you could die if you play then I’m guessing he’s not playing in that game. So the guessing would be he probably doesn’t trust their doctors. I’m guessing he probably went to outside doctors once he got back to Philadelphia to see what they say and told him.

Feels like there’s more to the story that hasn’t been reported yet or details we don’t know. So not sure he trusts the organization or not.

22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

If Hurts isn't here is that still the right move?

Hurts will be here. He's the franchise QB.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So Jason Avant, who played the game and said the same thing that Johny Paige said, also doesn’t know the game? Interesting how foles, avant and other players have said the same thing. I guess them playing the game does not matter. They just watched the film and they’re just clueless. Lol

Literally, none of them said there weren’t other problems either.

I didn't say that saying the scheme is a problem is wrong. Two things can be true, the scheme can be a problem and Page still has no idea what he's watching when he watches game film.