11 minutes ago, justrelax said:

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You clowns are incredibly wrong. People WANT to come here. 

Consider: In the last two years Douglas, Berry and now, perhaps Cunningham have been hired away. Clearly other folks see that we hire talent. Not you, though.

I’m purely making fun fo the fact they continue to say ridiculous things like QB factory and say it nonchalantly. also Berry left 10 months after coming here to go back to Cleveland. I’m sure it’s strictly the eagles why he got that job being here a whole 10 months on the job. And not the fact he was with the browns from 2016- late feb 2019

4 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Sounds like Clint Eastwood.

 

 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

I was just posting that Cunningham hadn't been hired yet.   lol  But, its possible he will be.   

 

 

But, truthfully, I have my fair share of stupid moments too.   

Me? Never! I can only aspire to stupidity. Blithering idiocy is my métier.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

Injury red flag? That should have made him the Eagles 1st pick. 

Teams have raided the Eagles personnel staff in recent years (Douglas, Berry, Stewart).

The fact that the Panthers got Stewart last year and wants Cunningham this year makes sense.

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Me? Never! I can only aspire to stupidity. Blithering idiocy is my métier.

JR — as it pertains to Dickerson (and anyone else) is there any difference playing C vs G in terms of the physical demands on his knees?  I’ve never kept track of NFL longevity of the two positions.  I’m assuming the injury risk is basically the same wherever the Eagles put him?

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

Watching some Trask , and boy does Toney stand out , electric 

Better than Reagor

4 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Me? Never! I can only aspire to stupidity. Blithering idiocy is my métier.

lol   I was referring to the others, but it seems that we all get to take our turns from time to time.  Some more frequently than others, to be certain.

 

 

I am tiring of this organization being so quotable with silly quips though, "QB factory", "Dream Team", "Gold Standard", "New Normal"...  I'm sure there are others.

11 minutes ago, austinfan said:

 

 

I knew I'd heard it somewhere before.  

From Breer’s MMQB...

DeVonta Smith’s case is going to be an interesting one. You’ve seen Smith’s weight from the medical combine in Indy: 166 pounds. You probably, one way or the other, have a take on it. You might also know that only two receivers in the 10 drafts between 2011 and ’20 who were under 6' 1" and 200 pounds went in the top 10, and those two selections (Tavon Austin and John Ross) fell well short of expectations. And you may have heard me point to Hall of Famer Isaac Bruce (173 pounds at the 1994 combine) as a comp for Smith. Now, we’ll give you two interesting pieces of information from his Alabama days that I think are important as to his future and what the Eagles are getting in the 10th pick.

1) Bama tried to put weight on Smith during his four years in Tuscaloosa, and by his second year on campus, it became clear to those there that Nick Saban had made peace with the fact that it wasn’t going to happen the same way it routinely would with other players. "He’s gonna be 165 pounds, no matter what,” Saban said in meetings going back to Smith’s sophomore year. The focus from there, for Saban and the strength staff, was in helping Smith get faster and stronger, not necessarily bigger.

2) At his size, it’s worth mentioning that toughness was never a concern for the Tide staff. And one piece of proof on that: Saban moved Smith over to defense for a short period of time in 2018. It was for only a few practices, but Bama caught the injury bug at corner and needed reinforcements. With a historically deep receiver corps (as the 2020 and ’21 drafts would show), the coaches felt comfortable looking for an athlete there to fill in. That led them to Smith, because of his long arms, and willingness, as displayed on special teams, to deliver and receive contact. I’m told, over that short period, Smith showed potential as a press corner and didn’t look even a little out of place.

On the first point, Smith is different. On the second point, Smith is different. And his production is different, too—otherwise, he wouldn’t have become the first Heisman-winning receiver in 29 years. That’s good. Because he’ll have to keep being different to make it. Yup, I like the Bruce comp. It’s also telling that you’ve got to reach back 27 years to find it. So we’ll see. What I can say is that there are a lot of people who believe he’ll make it happen. "We asked all the SEC guys who the best player they played against was over the last couple months,” said one NFC exec. "All of them, every one, said DeVonta. And the Bama guys all said, ‘He’s the best football player I’ve ever been around.’ ”

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

lol   I was referring to the others, but it seems that we all get to take our turns from time to time.  Some more frequently than others, to be certain.

 

 

I am tiring of this organization being so quotable with silly quips though, "QB factory", "Dream Team", "Gold Standard", "New Normal"...  I'm sure there are others.

That’s the reason i said what i did. I’m tired of them anointing themselves with titles or saying something comes back to backfire on them. Two weeks ago i had to hear about paper rock scissors being a good evaluation tool. I don’t see teams like the Patriots, ravens, chiefs, Steelers, packers who have had great success over the last 2 decades having those quips or if they have one don’t repeat it. 

1 hour ago, schuy7 said:

 

If your not promoting him to full GM to get us two 3rd round picks then you can kiss my ***

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

JR — as it pertains to Dickerson (and anyone else) is there any difference playing C vs G in terms of the physical demands on his knees?  I’ve never kept track of NFL longevity of the two positions.  I’m assuming the injury risk is basically the same wherever the Eagles put him?

Great question! The short answer is yes, center is generally a less physically demanding position than guard. Your responsibility is blocking calls and A gap to A gap and accurate snaps (not as easy as you might think).. You're not a drive blocker though you may be involved in combo blocks. If you're blocking a NT you usually have help.

While the Eagles are not unique, they have such a great athlete at center in Kelce that they run a different blocking scheme than do most teams. Kelce pulls like a guard on outside zone runs, sweeps, and screens. He makes all the calls inside and he's great on the QB sneak because he's really quick and he plays low.

Dickerson is completely different player. He's a pure power guy and really projects more as a RG type in the NFL than a C. Our base run is the OZ, If Dickerson is the C, I would expect more IZ and Power as staples.

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

lol   I was referring to the others, but it seems that we all get to take our turns from time to time.  Some more frequently than others, to be certain.

 

 

I am tiring of this organization being so quotable with silly quips though, "QB factory", "Dream Team", "Gold Standard", "New Normal"...  I'm sure there are others.

In full agreement.

23 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Adding you to my list of the clueless here. Bias much?

Yeah i am the clueless one that has moved multiple times and worked across my industry to get to vp lol

what bias are you proclaiming?

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Great question! The short answer is yes, center is generally a less physically demanding position than guard. Your responsibility is blocking calls and A gap to A gap and accurate snaps (not as easy as you might think).. You're not a drive blocker though you may be involved in combo blocks. If you're blocking a NT you usually have help.

While the Eagles are not unique, they have such a great athlete at center in Kelce that they run a different blocking scheme than do most teams. Kelce pulls like a guard on outside zone runs, sweeps, and screens. He makes all the calls inside and he's great on the QB sneak because he's really quick and he plays low.

Dickerson is completely different player. He's a pure power guy and really projects more as a RG type in the NFL than a C. Our base run is the OZ, If Dickerson is the C, I would expect more IZ and Power as staples.

Few OL questions:

*Do you think Herbig, after reportedly losing  30+ lbs in the offseason, could have a chance to compete for starting LG position allowing Semualo to move to C? Especially if Dickerson projects better to RG

**What about Driscoll? After watching tape of him at various spots on the OL, still not sure where he best fits.

I normally hate draft picks based on production (Jordan Matthews, Marcus Smith, Derek Barnett)...all underwhelming talents who had production that clearly did not translate to the nfl.  Doesnt take hindsight to have that opinion.

Smith’s production is so extreme and so different that it’s worth the gamble.  Sure he’s tiny and not the fastest wr in the draft, but he’s basically the hardest WR to cover in NCAA history.  Only Randy Moss and Jerry Rice have comparable dominance, and they didn’t do it against first and second round pro corner prospects every week.  Against the most coveted defensive prospect in next years entire draft, Smith made it look like there were 10 defenders on the field.  They say great corners take the WR off the field; he practically took the corner off the field.

I generally like measurables and projection at the expense of college production, which relies on too many irrelevant variables.  But in this case, it’s just with a gamble to see if the sheer impossibility of covering this guy translates to the pros.  

9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Yeah i am the clueless one that has moved multiple times and worked across my industry to get to vp lol

what bias are you proclaiming?

I view it more this way did lurie have to say in a presser he sees 9-10 future GMs when he walks around the novacare center every day? That was necessary to say? There’s franchise with just as many prospects in their buildings that don’t boast about it especially coming off a 4-11-1 season and some pretty mediocre to bad drafts over a 3 year window. 

Was it also necessary couple weeks back to use paper rock scissors explanation about determining competitiveness in a player? Beyond ridiculous. That’s my problem. If you did not purposefully put things of that nature out there no one would poke fun at it. Of course other teams continuously say things like the gold standard, dream team, new norm, qb factory, use paper rock scissors to evaluate and a couple more that are out there. Legitimately this team has at least one of those quotes/sayings every 2-3 years. 

 

11 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Few OL questions:

*Do you think Herbig, after reportedly losing  30+ lbs in the offseason, could have a chance to compete for starting LG position allowing Semualo to move to C? Especially if Dickerson projects better to RG

**What about Driscoll? After watching tape of him at various spots on the OL, still not sure where he best fits.

If I had a dollar for every pound that players well known for being vastly over or underweight were said to have lost or gained in the offseason, I could probably buy a controlling interest in the Eagles.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I view it more this way did lurie have to say in a presser he sees 9-10 future GMs when he walks around the novacare center every day? That was necessary to say? There’s franchise with just as many prospects in their buildings that don’t boast about it especially coming off a 4-11-1 season and some pretty mediocre to bad drafts over a 3 year window. 

Was it also necessary couple weeks back to use paper rock scissors explanation about determining competitiveness in a player? Beyond ridiculous. That’s my problem. If you did not purposefully put things of that nature out there no one would poke fun at it. Of course other teams continuously say things like the gold standard, dream team, new norm, qb factory, use paper rock scissors to evaluate and a couple more that are out there. Legitimately this team has at least one of those quotes/sayings every 2-3 years. 

Agreed

its like the fraud of the McKinsey mystique. If you have to talk about how great your org is...it isnt

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

If I had a dollar for every pound that players well known for being vastly over or underweight were said to have lost or gained in the offseason, I could probably buy a controlling interest in the Eagles.

Pinkston should have weighed 230 after all those offseason gains...

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

If I had a dollar for every pound that players well known for being vastly over or underweight were said to have lost or gained in the offseason, I could probably buy a controlling interest in the Eagles.

I'd rather put that money towards owning a private island somewhere.

did anyone sign Damonte Coxie after the draft? I dont remember seeing his name anywhere.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'd rather put that money towards owning a private island somewhere.

I’d probably buy the Eagles, find a GM to wear a flame suit, and then meddle the crap out of the team.  
 

 

Devonta Smith isn't a gamble.  He is going to be great.

9 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Agreed

its like the fraud of the McKinsey mystique. If you have to talk about how great your org is...it isnt

I don’t mind it if it happens once in a while. It happens way too frequently. especially this offseason for a team who’s had mediocre to poor drafts from 2017-2020 (not including this year) and a bad football team. 

also i love how Andrew berry is like the eagles created him and made teams love him. He was with the browns for 3 years and Indy from 2009-2015. The 10 months he was here isn’t the overwhelming reason he got that Cleveland job. There were reports they thought super highly of him when he left and after the 2017 regime change. Cleveland was still high on him even after he left in 2019