50 minutes ago, justrelax said:

To the first, I have to wait and see. To the second, I see a swing player, competent most places but dominant nowhere.

I’d really like to see Driscoll at center. If he’s going to be a high end starter, I think that’s where he’d be best suited. At least physically.

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

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You clowns are incredibly wrong. People WANT to come here. 

Consider: In the last two years Douglas, Berry and now, perhaps Cunningham have been hired away. Clearly other folks see that we hire talent. Not you, though.

Everyone that gets hired gets hired from another team.  Calm down jerky.  Our front office is a clown show.

We did it!!!! 3 and 0!!!

21 minutes ago, therealdawk said:

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Today was the first day that the Phillies, Sixers and Flyers all won on the same day since April 11, 2012

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

 

OT: Dillard  Mailata(LT) Johnson (RT) Mailata (RT by week ) Dillard, Driscoll (OT/OG), Pryor  Toth(OT/OG) (5) I'm team Mailata, hope Dillard can be swing

I have a couple concerns with this.  

1.  If you make Dillard the swing tackle, you are officially declaring him a bust.  The guy does one thing well, and that is use his top-notch athleticism to kick back and mirror speed rushers.  Mailata has never played football and has bounced between LT and RT.  Pryor is a horrible athlete and bad OL who has at least maintained replacement level play between LT, LG, RG, and RT.  He's literally been everywhere on short notice.  And Dillard is an elite athlete, first round LT who humiliated himself as an RT.  Be it a mental or physical issue, throw versatility out the window.  He's a LT or he is nothing.

2.  Mailata has been a hidden gem.  But the hype train has gone so far off the rails that few are seeing clearly when they evaluate him.  At the end of last year, he was definitely carrying a spare tire that was not present in his rugby highlights.  He legitimately struggled with some speed rushers around the edge...and it shouldn't all be blamed on newbie technique that will instantly and easily fix itself.  He's a big, strong, nasty OL...and despite his excellent athleticism for his size, I wonder if a shift away from the blind side to RT may suit him well.

3.  When Johnson gets hurt, that would then lead to a situation with Mailata at LT and Dillard at RT.  Do we really want that mess?

4. Maybe it's not in the cards and Dillard just isn't good enough, but having the bookend OT's figured out with Dillard/Mailata makes our upcoming draft burden so much easier.  If we need a RT, that's another first round pick we have to burn.  

 

Yeah, as Eagles fans, we HAVE TO hope that Dillard wins the left tackle job. It's his only path to the starting lineup. Mailata has the added benefit of being a potential replacement for Johnson. 

I hope Epps doesn’t make the team. Sick of seeing him out there. Sign an UDFA or do literally anything else to get new competition at safety.

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah, as Eagles fans, we HAVE TO hope that Dillard wins the left tackle job. It's his only path to the starting lineup. Mailata has the added benefit of being a potential replacement for Johnson. 

If Dillard turns the corner, we’re in a nice spot at T moving forward.

2 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I hope Epps doesn’t make the team. Sick of seeing him out there. Sign an UDFA or do literally anything else to get new competition at safety.

As far as I'm concerned, Epps, Ford, Jacquet, and James are all the same player who just changes jerseys.

20 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

As far as I'm concerned, Epps, Ford, Jacquet, and James are all the same player who just changes jerseys.

Right? Forgot about Ford too.

Ford signed with the Jaguars.

5 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Was it also necessary couple weeks back to use paper rock scissors explanation about determining competitiveness in a player? Beyond ridiculous. That’s my problem. If you did not purposefully put things of that nature out there no one would poke fun at it. Of course other teams continuously say things like the gold standard, dream team, new norm, qb factory, use paper rock scissors to evaluate and a couple more that are out there. Legitimately this team has at least one of those quotes/sayings every 2-3 years. 

This is stupid nitpicking. Sirianni used the RPS as an example of how they tried to gauge competitiveness, and pointed out that other coaches had better questions. It was an innocent response illustrating the importance they put on intangibles and the various means they used to get around agent coaching of prospect interviews - and of course the media blew it out of proportion and clueless fanboys jumped on it.

The irony is the Bama receiving corp employed RPS as part of their internal competition, and the most competitive Bama WR is the one the Eagles drafted.

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Yep, it's pretty sad that a RB comes in and is instantly better at catching the ball than any WR on the team.

You obviously are too young to remember Brian Westbrook.

3 hours ago, justrelax said:

To the first, I have to wait and see. To the second, I see a swing player, competent most places but dominant nowhere.

Herbig is tough, he anchored well but slow feet, lose 30 lbs it should speed up his feet, but will it impact his anchor?

Driscoll needs to stay inside with those short arms, Dickerson is longer and a better bet at RT, though Dillard was still >> Pryor or Toth. Add some strength and focus on playing guard, and Driscoll could be starter material.

Toth is interesting, remember Villaneuva, Army DT we converted to OL then let Steelers claim him. Same thing, good athlete who lacked strength b/c Army players can't bulk up like normal players - so give them an offseason to work on him in the weight room and teach pass blocking technique. Won't surprise me if he shows up at 310 lbs with better technique in August.

10 hours ago, austinfan said:

The real involvement is putting the draft board together, that's where you want Gannon explaining to the scouts why he likes (dislikes) a player, not just giving an opinion, but explaining his reasoning so scouts can look at film and understand what he's seeing. It probably helps that Gannon was a scout for two years, so he knows what scouts are looking at as well.

I think what probably drives scouts crazy are coaches who look at a limited sample of film then express a strong opinion in the war room after the board was put together, negating months of work. All that should have been hashed out weeks before the draft. Once in the room only one person should be making decisions and no one expressing an opinion - because the draft board should incorporate all those opinions.

Oh I agree with you. The FO should be including the coaches where it is appropriate and right to do so. If Gannon has a scouting background then he should be involved in the process. 

4 hours ago, austinfan said:

This is stupid nitpicking. Sirianni used the RPS as an example of how they tried to gauge competitiveness, and pointed out that other coaches had better questions. It was an innocent response illustrating the importance they put on intangibles and the various means they used to get around agent coaching of prospect interviews - and of course the media blew it out of proportion and clueless fanboys jumped on it.

The irony is the Bama receiving corp employed RPS as part of their internal competition, and the most competitive Bama WR is the one the Eagles drafted.

So you are calling people out for being fanboys...from the person who makes every excuse in the book defending the eagles and howie when they messed up on numerous things over the past three years or justify everything they do even if it counters something you stated previously...

call it nitpicking but it’s really not nitpicking when the eagles notoriously dating back to the gold standard to the dream team to fools gold to the new norm to i see 8-9 GMs walking in the novacare to RPS being a great piece of evaluation process that has to be known by all. And trust me there’s more i could put in there they’ve stated. They continue to have these things occur cause they keep saying things like that and putting it out there.  And it turns out to be a really bad reflection on the organization as time goes on. Would be really easy to not call yourself the gold standard when you hadn’t won the ultimate prize ever (another team had won 3 SBs in 4 years during that time). Or boast about your front office being so great after a 4-11-1 season with multiple poor drafts along with firing your coach three years after winning the franchise’s only sb and trading away your franchise Qb that you just paid 100 mil to cause he didn’t want anything to do with your organization/front office. I don’t often see organizations boasting about 8-9 gms walking around their complex after that much bad stuff occurred in one calendar year. And the RPS is just another example of it

Additionally I have less of problem with him using rps (frankly unless there’s legitimately something on the line [like who gets to run which route hence smith and waddle] most people aren’t that competitive about a random rock paper scissors match in a zoom interview or pro day. I don’t think prospects were like i really need to be competitive in this RPS match otherwise I’m doomed to not be drafted)and more of him announcing it like it was some vital key resource and piece of info in the process that just had to be known by all. Also it wasn’t just our local media and eagles fanboys that ran with that story. That story blew up nationally and not in a good way for the eagles and Siriani; kind of like the other stuff they’ve said in the past that haven’t played out kindly either  

6 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol pretty funny cause Kyle shanahan when asked if Jimmy g would be on the team he said he couldn’t guarantee who would be alive on Sunday so he couldn’t guaranteee Jimmy g would be on the roster on Sunday 

 

I’m definitely the type to do that. 

5 hours ago, austinfan said:

You obviously are too young to remember Brian Westbrook.

Current team. 

Kenny Gainwell when he was drafted instantly became better than any WR from the Eagles current roster (DeVonte Smtih excluded). 

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

So smooth. 

In my humble opinion, a couple years down the road he will be viewed as the steal of this draft. They could have chosen him at 70 and I’d have been pumped. He reminds me a ton of BWest my favorite Eagle. He’s your 3rd down back this year at minimum and bet he gets a couple starts when Miles gets banged up. 

6 hours ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yeah, as Eagles fans, we HAVE TO hope that Dillard wins the left tackle job. It's his only path to the starting lineup. Mailata has the added benefit of being a potential replacement for Johnson. 

If mailata wins the competition, dillard could spend time learning to play RT. If he spends an entire season at the position and still can't do it then he can go when his contract is up. I don't see the benefit in making mailata ride the pine behind Johnson while being a better LT than dillard. 

His one game at RT he had what, 3 days to prepare? Give him some reps there in TC, start getting him comfortable. If he loses out to mailata make him practice exclusively at RT during the season. If Lane gets hurt too early and dillard isn't up to speed you put mailata at RT and dillard at LT. I would be shocked if dillard beat mailata based on in game performance but it would be better for the team if he actually contributed 

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I have a couple concerns with this.  

1.  If you make Dillard the swing tackle, you are officially declaring him a bust.  The guy does one thing well, and that is use his top-notch athleticism to kick back and mirror speed rushers.  Mailata has never played football and has bounced between LT and RT.  Pryor is a horrible athlete and bad OL who has at least maintained replacement level play between LT, LG, RG, and RT.  He's literally been everywhere on short notice.  And Dillard is an elite athlete, first round LT who humiliated himself as an RT.  Be it a mental or physical issue, throw versatility out the window.  He's a LT or he is nothing.

2.  Mailata has been a hidden gem.  But the hype train has gone so far off the rails that few are seeing clearly when they evaluate him.  At the end of last year, he was definitely carrying a spare tire that was not present in his rugby highlights.  He legitimately struggled with some speed rushers around the edge...and it shouldn't all be blamed on newbie technique that will instantly and easily fix itself.  He's a big, strong, nasty OL...and despite his excellent athleticism for his size, I wonder if a shift away from the blind side to RT may suit him well.

3.  When Johnson gets hurt, that would then lead to a situation with Mailata at LT and Dillard at RT.  Do we really want that mess?

4. Maybe it's not in the cards and Dillard just isn't good enough, but having the bookend OT's figured out with Dillard/Mailata makes our upcoming draft burden so much easier.  If we need a RT, that's another first round pick we have to burn.  

 

Replacing Lane when necessary is not a burned pick, it's a smart pick.

Gainwell being a good 3rd down back allows us to also use Sanders more as a runner. He should get more carries (but not necessarily more touches)

Drafting in the top 10 next year will be good if the goal is to get an EDGE/CB/OT/S.
We're going to love a few players: Hamilton, Thibodeaux, Stingley...

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I have a couple concerns with this.  

1.  If you make Dillard the swing tackle, you are officially declaring him a bust.  The guy does one thing well, and that is use his top-notch athleticism to kick back and mirror speed rushers.  Mailata has never played football and has bounced between LT and RT.  Pryor is a horrible athlete and bad OL who has at least maintained replacement level play between LT, LG, RG, and RT.  He's literally been everywhere on short notice.  And Dillard is an elite athlete, first round LT who humiliated himself as an RT.  Be it a mental or physical issue, throw versatility out the window.  He's a LT or he is nothing.

2.  Mailata has been a hidden gem.  But the hype train has gone so far off the rails that few are seeing clearly when they evaluate him.  At the end of last year, he was definitely carrying a spare tire that was not present in his rugby highlights.  He legitimately struggled with some speed rushers around the edge...and it shouldn't all be blamed on newbie technique that will instantly and easily fix itself.  He's a big, strong, nasty OL...and despite his excellent athleticism for his size, I wonder if a shift away from the blind side to RT may suit him well.

3.  When Johnson gets hurt, that would then lead to a situation with Mailata at LT and Dillard at RT.  Do we really want that mess?

4. Maybe it's not in the cards and Dillard just isn't good enough, but having the bookend OT's figured out with Dillard/Mailata makes our upcoming draft burden so much easier.  If we need a RT, that's another first round pick we have to burn.  

 

1. Not necessarily.  If Dillard is the swing tackle, it's simply because Mailata is the better player.  I don't want Dillard to be a bust.  The 2019 draft could be an all time disaster if Miles Sanders weren't around.

2. I'm a self admitted Mailata backer but it's only because he's shown that he is capable of doing things at LT that Dillard can only dream of.  His body composition has certainly changed since his rugby days.  I really wish Brandon Brooks or Lane Johnson would just have these young guys work out with them as much as possible during the offseason.  Last year was the first time Mailata ever had to play 16 games of football.  He seems like a smart, dedicated guy.  I'm willing to bet he now knows what condition he needs to be in to sustain a full season.  Long term, Mailata could be a great replacement for Lane with Dillard at LT.  For 2021 however, Mailata is still the better player and the better player should be on the field.

3. I would hope after his RT disaster that Dillard said to himself "boy, if I want to make it in the NFL I better learn how to play multiple positions".  If he hasn't worked on his game to be adaptable to injuries across the line then I don't want him here.  Position flexibility is one of the most attractive traits an offensive lineman can have.  Herbig, Driscoll, Pryor are all plug and play players, albeit with different levels of success.  And if Johnson gets hurt maybe the plan is kick Mailata to RT and Dillard comes in at LT.  I would also hope the Eagles practice with different o-line scenarios to be prepared for anything.

4. I agree 100% with this.  I've been pounding the table for a long term solution of Dillard at LT and Mailata at RT...but that's long term.  Currently we still have Lane Johnson.  Until his play drops considerably I don't see the Eagles making a move to get him out of here.  So give me the best option at LT until he's gone.  IMO, that's Mailata.  If we have to suck it up and say Dillard was a waste of a 1st round pick so be it.  Howie has had some absolutely pathetic drafts.

Another reason I would have loved for the Eagles veterans to not boycott camp is we have so many veterans coming back from injuries it would be great for them to show the new coaching staff that they are healthy and ready to go.  Then again maybe they aren't healthy yet.  I know Lane was still a month or so away in his latest interview.

My ideal line for 2021

LT- Mailata   LG- Dickerson   C- Kelce   RG- Brooks   RT- Johnson

Dillard, Seumalo, Driscoll, Herbig, Toth are the backups.  Seumalo is a great 6th lineman.  He can play guard or tackle.  Same with Driscoll.  Herbig is a plug and play at guard.  Dillard is the lone player who is cemented at only one position (that's going to be his downfall).  Toth is your developmental swing tackle.

Fun fact, who did Landon Dickerson replace at Center when he transferred to Alabama? 

Current Eagle Ross Pierschbacher

 

1 hour ago, Outlaw said:

In my humble opinion, a couple years down the road he will be viewed as the steal of this draft. They could have chosen him at 70 and I’d have been pumped. He reminds me a ton of BWest my favorite Eagle. He’s your 3rd down back this year at minimum and bet he gets a couple starts when Miles gets banged up. 

Gainwell as a runner isnt but but as a receiving back I think he's special.

He can run all sorts of routes from all over the field and not only that but once he catches the ball he takes zero time to RAC.

Some WRs after they catch a pass will take a little bit to get going after the catch or go down on first contact or no contact, not gainwell he's immediately a runner the moment he secures the catch and has great contact balance and acceleration.

I think Siriani is going to love him in the pass game especially after sanders seemed to take a step back in that department last year.

Also a guy that has been lost in it all is Huntley who was a pretty good receiving back in college as well 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Gainwell as a runner isnt but but as a receiving back I think he's special.

He can run all sorts of routes from all over the field and not only that but once he catches the ball he takes zero time to RAC.

Some WRs after they catch a pass will take a little bit to get going after the catch or go down on first contact or no contact, not gainwell he's immediately a runner the moment he secures the catch and has great contact balance and acceleration.

I think Siriani is going to love him in the pass game especially after sanders seemed to take a step back in that department last year.

Also a guy that has been lost in it all is Huntley who was a pretty good receiving back in college as well 

Exactly why he reminds me of Westbrook. Started off as primarily a receiving 3rd down back, eventually his running talent caught up and he became the man we all knew and loved. I see a similar path here. Gainwell is also going to be an asset in the return game.