This is a disaster.  Don’t like any of these rumors.  Hope they are all smokescreens 

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

they still could have done way different stuff. they werent forced in to Harden, and the plan of Tucker and Gordon. Other options existed. Other options exist this summer. Morey consistently chooses the worst options just to get his guys.

The harden deal was a bad decision. That I’ll hold on him. I’d have taken haliburton and hield and been thrilled. 

However even if he did haliburton and hield, you are stlll massively restricted due to assets and cap space that were pissed away on horford and Harris. Imagine what they could’ve done with the $63 mil (per year) they spent on horford and Harris. Those two contracts absolutely killed the sixers. Add on you’d have a starting SF if not for star hunting with bridges. Add on the Fing idiot ownership who hired doc before morey came on and won’t fire doc due to owing him money and having to pay the next coach too  

The problem is the sixers let brand, brown and colangelo destroy the team and obliterate the assets they had. then hired morey who when he got here had all of Ben Simmons and embiid left as assets. He definitely should’ve took the haliburton deal and it was a mistake. However the sixers were already Fed when he got here due to dumb decisions and throwing away assets in the past and the harden one is likely the final nail in the coffin. 

just to point out the sixers could potentially have had harden, maxey, butler, bridges, embiid, shamet and whatever they spent on horford used for bench players on this roster today if the sixers weren’t stupid before morey got here. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The harden deal was a bad decision. That I’ll hold on him. I’d have taken haliburton and hield and been thrilled. 

However even if he did haliburton and hield, you are stlll massively restricted due to assets and cap space that were pissed away on horford and Harris. Imagine what they could’ve done with the $63 mil they spent on horford and Harris. Those two contracts absolutely killed the sixers. Add on you’d have a starting SF if not for star hunting with bridges. Add on the Fing idiot ownership who hired doc before morey came on and won’t fire doc due to owing him money and having to pay the next coach too  

The problem is the sixers let brand, brown and colangelo destroy the team and obliterate the assets they had. then hired morey who when he got here had all of Ben Simmons left as an asset. He definitely should’ve took the haliburton deal and it was a mistake. However the sixers were already Fed when he got here due to dumb decisions and throwing away assets in the past and the harden one is likely the final nail in the coffin. 

I realize that. I think everyone realizes that. But with various options still available for improving the team this year, it doesnt make sense to continue bringing those things up. If they make trades to clear space to have the full MLE only to waste the entire thing on PJ Tucker, its a bad decision which was not caused by any of that other stuff.

If they trade Thybulle for old injury prone Gordon when they could have had a good young player from Portland, its likely to be a bad decision. Those old moves arent dictating which wrong players Morey has to choose this year.

We are shopping on certain lower tiers because of those old moves. But he can still do a much better job choosing which players he is bringing in on those tiers. 

55 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

JOSH HART 

I still expect Morey to bring in Danuel House on a vet min, which might be the best move out of any that have been speculated on so far.

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The harden deal was a bad decision. That I’ll hold on him. I’d have taken haliburton and hield and been thrilled. 

However even if he did haliburton and hield, you are stlll massively restricted due to assets and cap space that were pissed away on horford and Harris. Imagine what they could’ve done with the $63 mil (per year) they spent on horford and Harris. Those two contracts absolutely killed the sixers. Add on you’d have a starting SF if not for star hunting with bridges. Add on the Fing idiot ownership who hired doc before morey came on and won’t fire doc due to owing him money and having to pay the next coach too  

The problem is the sixers let brand, brown and colangelo destroy the team and obliterate the assets they had. then hired morey who when he got here had all of Ben Simmons and embiid left as assets. He definitely should’ve took the haliburton deal and it was a mistake. However the sixers were already Fed when he got here due to dumb decisions and throwing away assets in the past and the harden one is likely the final nail in the coffin. 

just to point out the sixers could potentially have had harden, maxey, butler, bridges, embiid, shamet and whatever they spent on horford used for bench players on this roster today if the sixers weren’t stupid before morey got here. 

Of course the Harden deal was a bad one.  I said at the time it was dumb because Harden would only be here a short time and we needed to get multiple younger guys to put around Embiid.  The Harden blow up boys got all defensive, saying we didn’t trade for Harden without having a long term deal in mind.  Now the proposition of signing Harden to 2-3 additional years seems to be an even worse idea.  Dare I say Harden seems to have Hamstrung us.  Boom! 

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I realize that. I think everyone realizes that. But with various options still available for improving the team this year, it doesnt make sense to continue bringing those things up. If they make trades to clear space to have the full MLE only to waste the entire thing on PJ Tucker, its a bad decision which was not caused by any of that other stuff.

If they trade Thybulle for old injury prone Gordon when they could have had a good young player from Portland, its likely to be a bad decision. Those old moves arent dictating which wrong players Morey has to choose this year.

We are shopping on certain lower tiers because of those old moves. But he can still do a much better job choosing which players he is bringing in on those tiers. 

What good young players do you believe portland is giving up? They aren’t giving you Simons for him. There’s been no indication they’d give you josh hart. Frankly i don’t think they want to trade hart as they are trying to win now with lillard. So what player are you referring to? They aren’t giving up Johnson either. Little? I like him (sorry looked at the stats wrong. Was better this year getting more playing time on a team that was awful  I’m guessing portland wouldn’t include him in a deal) 

If they trade for Gordon they can’t clear enough to give a full MLE. I believe bodner talked about it in his article today if someone has it posted it cause someone subtweeted it earlier today on Twitter.

again morey has his issues and did damage with the harden deal. He helped in the sixers mess. However the harden deal doesn’t look nearly as bad and they aren’t shopping in those tiers either if the sixers didn’t sign horford and didn’t trade for Harris and extend him. If they kept butler and didn’t trade bridges then you’d have a roster of harden, maxey, bridges, butler, embiid, shamet and at least two role players for the money they spent on Harris and they’d have assets to make better trades. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

What good young players do you believe portland is giving up? They aren’t giving you Simons for him. There’s been no indication they’d give you josh hart. Frankly i don’t think they want to trade hart as they are trying to win now with pollard. So what player are you referring to? They aren’t giving up Johnson either. Little? I like him but his 3 point shooting got worse this year given more mins. Shot 23.7% from 3 and his lowest FG percentage in 3 years at 43%. 

If they trade for Gordon they can’t clear enough to give a full MLE. I believe bodner talked about it in his article today if someone has it posted it cause someone subtweeted it earlier today on Twitter.

again morey has his issues and did damage with the harden deal. He helped in the sixers mess. However the harden deal doesn’t look nearly as bad and they aren’t shopping in those tiers either if the sixers didn’t sign horford and didn’t trade for Harris and extend him. If they kept butler and didn’t trade bridges then you’d have a roster of harden, maxey, bridges, butler, embiid, shamet and at least two role players for the money they spent on Harris and they’d have assets to make better trades. 

Naz Reid would be good. 

The rest of the stuff is ancient history. Morey had an opportunity to improve this team's standing and all he does is squander more assets on old rockets guys. Horrible all on his own regardless of the past GMs moves.

48 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Naz Reid would be good. 

Naz reid is on Minnesota.

You mean little? Who says portland is giving him up straight up for thybulle. Portland said they’d take thybulle doesn’t mean they’d give you little, Johnson, hart or Simons for him nor straight up player for player.

again ignoring past moves as they didn’t somewhat hamstring current GM. Having to trade horford for green and giving up a future 1st didn’t help. That was cap space gone and a future pick to use in a trade that could’ve helped us just to get rid of a contract. And they had to do it regardless of GM cause at that time the league knew horford wasn’t a fit here and a bad contract for us. So that was whoever the hell the sixers had become GM was forced to do it. That hinders your ability on the trade market. That’s a move the current GM had to make due to last which still is hurting us as that’s an asset used on basically nothing and loss of cap that should’ve been used better. Harris being on this team at that number and basically no one in the league wants to take on unless you take bad contracts back is hamstringing what players you can go after and moves you can make. 

again if morey makes that harden deal ( still a mistake) and they had butler, bridges, maxey, embiid, shamet and spent $25 mil per year for horford better spent then that harden trade while still a mistake still makes the sixers a legitimate contender. They’d also have a future first rounder (not given to Okc) to use to make a trade to pull in better a player 

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of course the Harden deal was a bad one.  I said at the time it was dumb because Harden would only be here a short time and we needed to get multiple younger guys to put around Embiid.  The Harden blow up boys got all defensive, saying we didn’t trade for Harden without having a long term deal in mind.  Now the proposition of signing Harden to 2-3 additional years seems to be an even worse idea.  Dare I say Harden seems to have Hamstrung us.  Boom! 

At this point the sixers should let harden play on his option or give him the option and a 1 year extension. Reason on the option pus a year is that is entering 23-24 offseason they’d have harden and Harris as expiring contracts to use in making a deal or they could just let both walk at the end of year and have a ton of cap space. Problem with just letting both walk is you swing and miss and likely wasting 2 of the best years of embiid’s prime. 

 

Gotta believe with haliburton, Mathurin and Duarte that the pacers might look to deal hield and brogdon 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Gotta believe with haliburton, Mathurin and Duarte that the pacers might look to deal hield and brogdon 

Buddy has to be available 

I actually loved what he did with the Pacers last year and he showed a lot with his handles off the bounce 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Buddy has to be available 

I actually loved what he did with the Pacers last year and he showed a lot with his handles off the bounce 

Would love to be able to acquire him on the sixers. Would be a smaller SF but they need his shooting. I’d offer thybulle, green (whatever to make it work money wise) and 23 but I’m guessing they get a better offer 

44 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

again you ignore past moves as they didn’t somewhat hamstring current GM. 

No. Im not doing that again, nor have I ever. You are projecting that on me. 

What I am saying is, with the cards he has been dealt, he can be doing much better. 

Im just worried about what he is doing now. I know those guys Fd up his deck of cards. But we can only judge him on the opportunities he has had. Not the opportunities we wish he had. So far, the opportunities he has, with the cards he has been dealt, are still being squandered. Hes been just as bad as the F up GMs who came before him.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

No. Im not doing that again, nor have I ever. You are projecting that on me. 

What I am saying is, with the cards he has been dealt, he can be doing much better. 

Im just worried about what he is doing now. I know those guys Fd up his deck of cards. But we can only judge him on the opportunities he has had. Not the opportunities we wish he had. So far, the opportunities he has, with the cards he has been dealt, are still being squandered. Hes been just as bad as the F up GMs who came before him.

His opportunities like not being forced to give up one of his future first rounders due to having to deal horford due to past mistake. That hurt some of his ability. That’s a pick that could’ve been used to make a better trade to acquire a player you would’ve liked. Any GM who took over had to do that.

ive Never said he couldn’t have done better. Definitely could’ve. However the deck of cards he was dealt and any GM who took over was not ideal.

The harden trade was bad. Should’ve taken haliburton and hield. That’s his biggest blunder unless harden somehow turns it around  

He also got seth curry for Richardson. That seemed like a pretty good trade for us. 

Danny green due to poor decisions prior was the 5th best player on this team at his age and they desperately needed him to have success which is due to poor management from before.

I’d add we were pretty happy with Drummond before dealing him.

The harden trade is where he Fed up so far. And maybe springer who they took a chance on at 28 which according to bodner and Hoffman on their last podcast said they were desperately trying to deal before the draft and no one wanted the pick via trade. 

OKC just traded "multiple 1s round picks" for this Deing guy. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

His opportunities like not being forced to give up one of his future first rounders due to having to deal horford due to past mistake. That hurt some of his ability. That’s a pick that could’ve been used to make a better trade. Any GM who took over had to do that.

ive Never said he couldn’t have done better. Definitely could’ve. However the deck of cards he was dealt and any GM who took over was not ideal.

The harden trade was bad. Should’ve taken haliburton and hield. That’s his biggest blunder unless harden somehow turns it around  

He also got seth curry for Richardson. That seemed like a pretty good trade for us. 

Danny green due to poor decisions prior was the 5th best player on this team at his age and they desperately needed him to have success which is due to poor management from before.

I’d add we were pretty happy with Drummond before dealing him.

The harden trade is where he Fed up so far. And maybe springer who they took a chance on at 28 which according to bodner and Hoffman on their last podcast said they were desperately trying to deal before the draft and no one wanted the pick via trade. 

not really interested in excuses for Morey. Its time to grade him. We already know the other guys sucked. Im not grading him on not having the assets the other guys had. Im grading him on what he has done. Bad.

Just announce the picks

looking at ESPNs BPA as if it were a prediction of who will be available for us, we can be looking at Kessler, Terry, Hardy, Jovic, and LaRavia still on the board. They dont have McGowens anywhere in thenext 25, but Id add him to that list too. It looks good.

 

Can Terry be another D Murray as he develops some scoring?

big jump up for Jalen Williams. 

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

not really interested in excuses for Morey. Its time to grade him. We already know the other guys sucked. Im not grading him on not having the assets the other guys had. Im grading him on what he has done. Bad.

he had a loss of some assets due to prior to mistakes. He had to give up a future first just to get horford gone which also limited his cap flexibility. Like one of those players you covet that you want to trade for, they could’ve gone after and maybe gotten if he wasn’t forced to make that deal. Which any GM who’s taken over would’ve had to do. That’s not an excuse that’s a reality the sixers had to accept and live with. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

he had a loss of some assets due to prior to mistakes. He had to give up a future first just to get horford gone which also limited his cap flexibility. Like one of those players you covet that you want to trade for, they could’ve gone after and maybe gotten if he wasn’t forced to make that deal. Which any GM who’s taken over would’ve had to do. That’s not an excuse that’s a reality the sixers had to accept and live with. 

and we are living with it. And also moving on and grading him on what he is doing. Which is crap.

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

OKC just traded "multiple 1s round picks" for this Deing guy. 

They also took Holmgren #2. This is going to go down as a historically bad draft for them.

A thybulle and 23 trade to move up would be ok now. Griffin a big time shooter at SF, or Branham would be great.

Griffin would be a steal