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EMB Blog: Once AGAIN. Politics to CVON!!!!!

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Hyde would be a perfect fit and went for 1000 yards last year, so he still has juice.

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    I mentioned this previously on this board, and in the past years ago on the other board.   I'm not sure Howie has ever come out and said it this plainly, but Howie is telling the truth here.   

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1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Feeling like were going to just end up with McCoy

I mean...for the vet min...rather have Hyde, but if he isn't out there they could do worse. Having depth isn't a bad thing. I was about to say because you never know who will get hurt in camp, but they may not have much of one this year.

This is actually a concern for the NFL and potential spread of corona virus. 

Tom Brady teaches Bucs center Ryan Jensen the exact way to fold his towel to avoid a sweaty butt

I dont know if Brady's method works. But if so, the NFL needs to adopt it as a rule, or do something else.

Fecal-oral is a way the virus is spread. And a QB has his hands in the center's sweaty taint on every single play. Then QBs touch the ball, they lick their fingers, WRs and RBs touch the ball, etc...

 

Brandon Graham and Slay working out together

 

Miles Sanders says MVP year

 

 

Jackson working out

 

@VaBeach_Eagle I dont know how/where this Joeyshakes YT channel is getting this footage from. Maybe twitter? But this seems like the kind of stuff that might increase traffic on your YT channel and maybe potential exposure for the boards. Or in time generate a small income on YT from views. 

Sanders looks bigger

@VaBeach_Eagle Another idea for views if both of you might be interested. @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! The good, the bad, and the ugly posts are super popular around here. Maybe they can grab a ton of views on youtube if e-a-g-l-e-s would be interested in recording himself for the channel to be posted on YT. Its somewhat similar to what this joeyshakes guy does with reaction videos just blabbering, but the good/bad/ugly post has some sort of structure and should sound more intelligent than your average rant on YT. Could be a nice niche. 

Graham is a workout freak.  If Slay is able to keep up with him that's a very good thing. Not that anyone needed more reasons to like Slay or he had anything to prove but still, that's awesome.

51 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

@VaBeach_Eagle Another idea for views if both of you might be interested. @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! The good, the bad, and the ugly posts are super popular around here. Maybe they can grab a ton of views on youtube if e-a-g-l-e-s would be interested in recording himself for the channel to be posted on YT. Its somewhat similar to what this joeyshakes guy does with reaction videos just blabbering, but the good/bad/ugly post has some sort of structure and should sound more intelligent than your average rant on YT. Could be a nice niche. 

I’d be interested in doing so. I don’t have a problem recording it. However i do think (actually thought about doing a weekly podcast form of it for a while) doing that or a podcast but probably would need another person involved to have the back and forth. Makes it much more tolerable then just me speaking on the things by myself. Plus two minds are better than one and could make it more entertaining. Writing and having people read it, it isnt a need. 

6 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Just seeing reports of Lebron training to play football in 2011. 
 

You know Jerry would have made sure he was on the final 53 whether he earned it or not. 
 

I think he would have been a legit redzone threat and probably would have been used as a FG blocker since he’s 6’8 but I can’t see how he ever would have been a legit #2 TE or WR. 

FWIW, he was the #1 WR recruit in the country. Plenty of major programs offered him the opportunity to be a two sport athlete, but obviously he was never going to entertain that...

1 hour ago, TEW said:

FWIW, he was the #1 WR recruit in the country. Plenty of major programs offered him the opportunity to be a two sport athlete, but obviously he was never going to entertain that...

If he focused on football he probably would have been a first round pick. 

1 hour ago, TEW said:

FWIW, he was the #1 WR recruit in the country. Plenty of major programs offered him the opportunity to be a two sport athlete, but obviously he was never going to entertain that...

Wouldn’t have made a lick of sense logistically.  Was he going to play the required 3 years of college football while being a franchise professional NBA player?  I think the Cavaliers, as a professional franchise, would have had the right to contractually prohibit him from playing collegiate football.

53 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Wouldn’t have made a lick of sense logistically.  Was he going to play the required 3 years of college football while being a franchise professional NBA player?  I think the Cavaliers, as a professional franchise, would have had the right to contractually prohibit him from playing collegiate football.

You don’t have to play 3 years of college football, just be 3 years removed from high school 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You don’t have to play 3 years of college football, just be 3 years removed from high school 

I always wonder what would happen if a child prodigy who graduated high school at age 13 or something while also being a top prospect wanted to play in college and the pros. Would they let a 13 or 14 year old play College ball and then let him enter the league at 16?

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

I always wonder what would happen if a child prodigy who graduated high school at age 13 or something while also being a top prospect wanted to play in college and the pros. Would they let a 13 or 14 year old play College ball and then let him enter the league at 16?

I’d be very concerned if anyone had an NFL ready body at 16-17 let alone also be a genius prodigy 

55 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

I always wonder what would happen if a child prodigy who graduated high school at age 13 or something while also being a top prospect wanted to play in college and the pros. Would they let a 13 or 14 year old play College ball and then let him enter the league at 16?

There have been 19 year olds drafted. Amobi Okoye most recently. As long as you're 3 years removed from graduating HS, you're eligible.  The real problem is that the NFL (and football in general) requires a level of physical maturity beyond that of any other team sport.  In soccer, 15 year old prodigies often play with senior teams. In basketball, height tends to be the limiting factor, but plenty of kids in their mid teens are 6'5"+ and in Europe it's common for teens to play in the first division. But they usually just don't have the muscle mass for the NFL until the are into their 20's.

I remember reading some time ago from a famous NFL coach (can't remember if it was Walsh or Madden... this was 25 years ago when Kevin Garnet made the jump straight to the NBA, but it was someone of their stature in the NFL) that Bruce Smith was the only high school player they had ever come across who could have made the jump straight to the NFL.

7 minutes ago, TEW said:

 In soccer, 15 year old prodigies often play with senior teams. In basketball, height tends to be the limiting factor, but plenty of kids in their mid teens are 6'5"+ and in Europe it's common for teens to play in the first division. But they usually just don't have the muscle mass for the NFL until the are into their 20's.

In chess, it's not unheard of to have a teenager play at a world class level. Bobby Fischer was an elite player at the age of 15. He finished in fifth place in the Interzonal, which is essentially the chess "playoffs" and qualified for the following year's Candidates tournament (eight players compete with the winner earning the right to play the world champion for the title) where he also finished in fifth place. Current world champion Magnus Carlsen became the highest rated player (briefly) in the world when he was still seventeen. 

7 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d be interested in doing so. I don’t have a problem recording it. However i do think (actually thought about doing a weekly podcast form of it for a while) doing that or a podcast but probably would need another person involved to have the back and forth. Makes it much more tolerable then just me speaking on the things by myself. Plus two minds are better than one and could make it more entertaining. Writing and having people read it, it isnt a need. 

Nice.

I was thinking if the videos get monetized the monies could be another source of funding for the EMB. 

But if you had a similar idea already maybe youd want to make some cash on the side for yourself. 

 

5 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

I always wonder what would happen if a child prodigy who graduated high school at age 13 or something while also being a top prospect wanted to play in college and the pros. Would they let a 13 or 14 year old play College ball and then let him enter the league at 16?

Were you alive at 13? No way any 13 y.o. can play college ball, and absolutely no way a 17 y.o. can play pro

14 hours ago, schuy7 said:

I think we would be better off with an in between the tackles physical runner. Someone who can do the dirty work. Hyde could be a good option. (as opposed to McCoy)

My thought as well.  A variety of RB running styles give more options on play calling.

8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Wouldn’t have made a lick of sense logistically.  Was he going to play the required 3 years of college football while being a franchise professional NBA player?  I think the Cavaliers, as a professional franchise, would have had the right to contractually prohibit him from playing collegiate football.

The injury risk is way too high for a NBA player to try football.  It is a physical contact sport!  He could get hurt badly and lose his NBA career as well.

6 hours ago, TEW said:

There have been 19 year olds drafted. Amobi Okoye most recently. As long as you're 3 years removed from graduating HS, you're eligible.  The real problem is that the NFL (and football in general) requires a level of physical maturity beyond that of any other team sport.  In soccer, 15 year old prodigies often play with senior teams. In basketball, height tends to be the limiting factor, but plenty of kids in their mid teens are 6'5"+ and in Europe it's common for teens to play in the first division. But they usually just don't have the muscle mass for the NFL until the are into their 20's.

It really depends on the sport.

In tennis, women can win majors at 16, but the last under 18 male to win a slam was Michael Chang in 1989. Nadal got his first major at 19. Today's game is so physical, it's too hard for kids to be elite, but prodigies can absolutely play on the tour at 15-18.

In hockey, Connor David was 18 in his rookie year and was immediately one of the best players in the league. By year 2, he was the best player in the league. 

Bringing it back to football, some 18 year olds could absolutely play. It would simply be not appropriate for LOS players or QBs. CBs/WRs could contribute early. At 19, some players are ready after their freshman season. Adrian Pederson was ready probably out of HS, but definitely after his junior season. Derek Stingley would have been a top 10 pick this year if he was eligible; he's a freshman who was better than Okudah. 

The best players can always move up early. If you're not part of that 1-2%, then you're better off developing.

13 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Sanders looks bigger

That's because he's not standing next to his 6'5" QB and 300lbs o-linemen.  

8 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

I always wonder what would happen if a child prodigy who graduated high school at age 13 or something while also being a top prospect wanted to play in college and the pros. Would they let a 13 or 14 year old play College ball and then let him enter the league at 16?

I think he would have NCAA eligibility to play when he's enrolled as a student.  As TEW pointed out it happens in Soccer all of the time.  

7 hours ago, TEW said:

There have been 19 year olds drafted. Amobi Okoye most recently. As long as you're 3 years removed from graduating HS, you're eligible.  The real problem is that the NFL (and football in general) requires a level of physical maturity beyond that of any other team sport.  In soccer, 15 year old prodigies often play with senior teams. In basketball, height tends to be the limiting factor, but plenty of kids in their mid teens are 6'5"+ and in Europe it's common for teens to play in the first division. But they usually just don't have the muscle mass for the NFL until the are into their 20's.

I remember reading some time ago from a famous NFL coach (can't remember if it was Walsh or Madden... this was 25 years ago when Kevin Garnet made the jump straight to the NBA, but it was someone of their stature in the NFL) that Bruce Smith was the only high school player they had ever come across who could have made the jump straight to the NFL.

Madden also said this about DJ Williams, if I recall correctly.  

3 hours ago, greend said:

Were you alive at 13? No way any 13 y.o. can play college ball, and absolutely no way a 17 y.o. can play pro

If you are talking about football, I agree.  From a developmental standpoint, if a teenage boy is fast and strong enough at age 16 there's nothing he gains by playing at that age because of the risk of injury. He will only get bigger and stronger until his early 20's.  So why not hold off until he's closer to his peak to reduce the chance of injury and maximize the length of his career.  

46 minutes ago, RLC said:

It really depends on the sport.

In tennis, women can win majors at 16, but the last under 18 male to win a slam was Michael Chang in 1989. Nadal got his first major at 19. Today's game is so physical, it's too hard for kids to be elite, but prodigies can absolutely play on the tour at 15-18.

In hockey, Connor David was 18 in his rookie year and was immediately one of the best players in the league. By year 2, he was the best player in the league. 

Bringing it back to football, some 18 year olds could absolutely play. It would simply be not appropriate for LOS players or QBs. CBs/WRs could contribute early. At 19, some players are ready after their freshman season. Adrian Pederson was ready probably out of HS, but definitely after his junior season. Derek Stingley would have been a top 10 pick this year if he was eligible; he's a freshman who was better than Okudah. 

The best players can always move up early. If you're not part of that 1-2%, then you're better off developing.

Gretzky was 17 when he made his debut with the Oilers.  I think it's more like the .01% of players.  

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