20 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Many of those yrs in NE he was an assistant. In Denver he failed and showed his Genghis Khan School management style, then upon returning to NE their O survived on the play of a QB who didn't need coaching. Nothing I've read or seen assures me he can manage a team or develop players.

But he was the OC in NE from 05-08. People act like Brady was some super star QB to start his career but he wasn’t he was a game manager and NE won based on there D. Brady didn’t open up and put up the stats until McDaniels. Brady first 4K passing year under McDaniels. Brady 50 Td season thats under McDaniels 07.

Then his final year 08 NE missed the playoffs at 10-6 with a backup QB Cassel playing all year.

26 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

My take on McDaniels was based on what could actually be attributed to him. Many of those yrs in NE he was an assistant. In Denver he failed and showed his Genghis Khan School management style, then upon returning to NE their O survived on the play of a QB who didn't need coaching. Nothing I've read or seen assures me he can manage a team or develop players.

Thats my take, but you are closer up there, so you would know

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But he was the OC in NE from 05-08. People act like Brady was some super star QB to start his career but he wasn’t he was a game manager and NE won based on there D. Brady didn’t open up and put up the stats until McDaniels. Brady first 4K passing year under McDaniels. Brady 50 Td season thats under McDaniels 07.

Then his final year 08 NE missed the playoffs at 10-6 with a backup QB Cassel playing all year.

IDK Brady had some nice receivers to target and they had the dual TE threats, so "game management" was pretty easy for him to do. Edelman was always a clutch receiver so yards were not a big deal because they scored in  the RZ. SO IDK if that was Josh or Belicheat

Welp, I was right again (lol) we waited long enough so there are only a few choices left, so now we are trying to justify and build up the LAST few people that would be dumb enough to take this job. We can't even screw up correctly

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK Brady had some nice receivers to target and they had the dual TE threats, so "game management" was pretty easy for him to do. Edelman was always a clutch receiver so yards were not a big deal because they scored in  the RZ. SO IDK if that was Josh or Belicheat

He didn’t have any of those WRs or TEs to start his career 01-04. 
05-06- Brady stared to open up as a passer posted his first 4K season
2007 Brady finally got his first real weapon that was Randy Moss this when he really flourish. But it was all under McDaniels 

Gronk didn’t come until 2011 I believe. 

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Welp, I was right again (lol) we waited long enough so there are only a few choices left, so now we are trying to justify and build up the LAST few people that would be dumb enough to take this job. We can't even screw up correctly

Brady,McDaniels, KC OC, Daboll(though he might stay in Buffalo), Duce

Honestly only two coaches got hired that I might have wanted Saleh and Smith.

I don’t even know who the Lions HC is Meyer wasn’t a legit option for us. Staley for LA but I had no clue who he was either until the Chargers hired him 

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t even know who the Lions HC is 

Dan Campbell.  First heard his name when he became interim HC of the Dolphins a few years back after they first Philbin.  Didn’t stick.  Been in NO since.  

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Brady,McDaniels, KC OC, Daboll(though he might stay in Buffalo), Duce

Honestly only two coaches got hired that I might have wanted Saleh and Smith.

I don’t even know who the Lions HC is Meyer wasn’t a legit option for us. Staley for LA but I had no clue who he was either until the Chargers hired him 

DABOLL already said no. They have not asked KC's OC for an interview.  So we are looking at 3. OF the 3 I like Brady. The Eagles are going to take Duce as he will be the only one left by the time they make a decision. I will be gone from this site once that happens. Thinking I will join my wife and root for GB.

 

  Been Fun!!

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Brady,McDaniels, KC OC, Daboll(though he might stay in Buffalo), Duce

Honestly only two coaches got hired that I might have wanted Saleh and Smith.

I don’t even know who the Lions HC is Meyer wasn’t a legit option for us. Staley for LA but I had no clue who he was either until the Chargers hired him 

I thought Daboll,already turned us down

23 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

He didn’t have any of those WRs or TEs to start his career 01-04. 
05-06- Brady stared to open up as a passer posted his first 4K season
2007 Brady finally got his first real weapon that was Randy Moss this when he really flourish. But it was all under McDaniels 

Gronk didn’t come until 2011 I believe. 

SO Brady would have just SUCKED without Josh? Not buying it

6 minutes ago, stine said:

DABOLL already said no. They have not asked KC's OC for an interview.  So we are looking at 3. OF the 3 I like Brady. The Eagles are going to take Duce as he will be the only one left by the time they make a decision. I will be gone from this site once that happens. Thinking I will join my wife and root for GB.

 

  Been Fun!!

Well we'll miss ya!!! With GB their boards have nothing to b*tch about,so if you hit a "mood" C'mon back. We have plenty to complain about

10 minutes ago, stine said:

DABOLL already said no. They have not asked KC's OC for an interview.  So we are looking at 3. OF the 3 I like Brady. The Eagles are going to take Duce as he will be the only one left by the time they make a decision. I will be gone from this site once that happens. Thinking I will join my wife and root for GB.

 

  Been Fun!!

Ya know what would be comical? If Duce turned them down HAHAHAHA

13 minutes ago, stine said:

They have not asked KC's OC for an interview. 

Yes we have lol and there 1 other coaching spot available Houston so how are all these coaches going to be gone by the time we hire. 

10 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO Brady would have just SUCKED without Josh? Not buying it

Would Brady have put up the same numbers you can’t so nobody can. Fact is some of his best seasons were under Josh McDaniels 

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes we have lol 

Would Brady have put up the same numbers you can’t so nobody can. Fact is some of his best seasons were under Josh McDaniels 

And I'm sure uncle Bill had nothing to do with it

14 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/12/14/sad-statistical-rankings-show-just-how-bad-patriots-offense-has-been-in-2020/  so this is our front runner (lmao/YIKES)

I will post this again, so why did everything tank when Brady left? Josh can't get Cam to play,how will that work with a QB that doesn't want help?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

And I'm sure uncle Bill had nothing to do with it

Yea the D specialist really put together that offense it was all him 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I will post this again, so why did everything tank when Brady left?

Who were the WRs again the TEs???? Let’s also act like he didn’t have to rebuild an entire offense to fit Cam Newton style with no off-season. 
Let’s also ignore every other season McDaniels has had success as OC 08 with Cassel or the games Brady couldn’t play had Jimmy G and Brisett 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Who were the WRs again the TEs???? Let’s also act like he didn’t have to rebuild an entire offense to fit Cam Newton style with no off-season. 

OH we're back to blaming the offseason. IDK some teams are still playing and they had no offseason. If Josh is so great who cares who the WR's and TE's were. According to you they should have all been GREAT!

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

OH we're back to blaming the offseason. IDK some teams are still playing and they had no offseason. If Josh is so great who cares who the WR's and TE's were. According to you they should have all been GREAT!

Did those teams build a completely new offense for the team???? Because last I checked all the teams in the playoffs have been together for awhile same offenses and Ds

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Who were the WRs again the TEs???? Let’s also act like he didn’t have to rebuild an entire offense to fit Cam Newton style with no off-season. 
Let’s also ignore every other season McDaniels has had success as OC 08 with Cassel or the games Brady couldn’t play had Jimmy G and Brisett 

BTW he didn't rebuild an offense around Cam, they put Cam into the offense they already had. First they didn't have the picks to do that and they didn't get many FA's either,so that is in your head

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If Josh is so great who cares who the WR's and TE's were. According to you they should have all been GREAT!

Lmao I never stated any of this but what’s new you always love to go to the extremes 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Did those teams build a completely new offense for the team???? Because last I checked all the teams in the playoffs have been together for awhile same offenses and Ds

What new offense would that be? A couple players? Hardly a rebuild because they didn;t have th draft picks

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

BTW he didn't rebuild an offense around Cam, they put Cam into the offense they already had. First they didn't have the picks to do that and they didn't get many FA's either,so that is in your head

Yes becuase they were running read options and QB powers with Tom Brady 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao I never stated any of this but what’s new you always love to go to the extremes 

I thought Josh was a miracle worker they way you build him up. He's not that good

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I thought Josh was a miracle worker they way you build him up. He's not that good

I’m not building him up to anything just stating facts that he has proven to be a good OC on numerous occasions. 

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yes becuase they were running read options and QB powers with Tom Brady 

OH Cam doesn't run RO's? He sure did in Carolina