EMB Blog: 2021 Regular and Post Season

[Ipiggles]

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

For sure it is. And I agree with you, people need to be more responsible for themselves. But, history has shown that people aren't able to do that. So, the idea is you make more people responsible and it hopefully curtails some of it. It will never fully go away, because people love to drink and drive for some reason. 

/\/\/\ This right here is how we lose freedoms, and how and why they attack the 2nd amendment.  "if we take away your guns, then no one will be shot by your guns" knowing full well criminals dont care about laws. Much like how Drunks dont care about driving drunk. 

And I dissagree with it.   The person responsible is the person doing the drinking and then doing the driving,  period.  The only other person who in my opinion could be somewhat culpable at all, is his GF who got in the car and knew he was driving and knew he was drunk. And even that is sketchy in my mind.....  

 

The rest is just BS. 

 

[BigEFly]

57 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Who would have thought in a state where casinos and nightlife are big business the legislature wouldn't pass common sense dram shop laws to impose liability on those businesses? 

Dram shop laws vary.  You have IL with its limit resulting in funky limits.  States with none.  States with draconian MADD driven laws and states with fact issues built in like serving to visibly intoxicated (thus the likelihood of a trial).  Dram shop liability is excluded under a standard GL policy and most umbrella policies and require a specific endorsement, Liquor Liability, or policy.  Underwriters are wary of offering this coverage and usually require extensive training of staff, assurances of drink limits and a fully videotaped serving area in visibly intoxicated states.  Limits and availability of coverage are driven by individual states laws. 

[Swoop]

4 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

 

Please no.

[Ipiggles]

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Wait, you categorize another poster, that you don't know on a message board, as a "Pillar"?  You know this is just a message board right?  You and your other "pillars", like the ones who liked this feeble attempt at a high-brow insult, take this place way too seriously.  Again.....IT'S A MESSAGE BOARD.  It's funny that I am called an old man by some morons and then someone who "was in diapers back when the EMB started by others".    I guarantee you I have been on the EMB (either this iteration or the old version) as long or if not longer than you and AFan.  

This comes to mind when thinking about you and your "pillars".  

- "A man is judged by the company he keeps and the company is judged by the men it keeps"

I originally found the EMB in 2002, signed up, lurked alot, started posting and was summarily banned in like 2005 after trolling Spuds foprum because I wouldn't let up about their failures..... LOL 

I started a new account about a year later when we switched interent providers and my IP addy changed. ....   

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Please no.

I'm not against it. You cant win much without a top QB. Give Wilson a decent cast around him... and he can win. 

[MillerTime]

5 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Please no.

Normally I would think it’s bull but Mort and Schefter are usually correct.

[Swoop]

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I originally found the EMB in 2002, signed up, lurked alot, started posting and was summarily banned in like 2005 after trolling Spuds foprum because I wouldn't let up about their failures..... LOL 

I started a new account about a year later when we switched interent providers and my IP addy changed. ....   

I'm not against it. You cant win much without a top QB. Give Wilson a decent cast around him... and he can win. 

I agree, but this roster isnt great and he's already in his 30s. How many years does he have left? 5?

[MillerTime]

 

[Swoop]

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You're not a "Pillar" either brah.  

Bro. You just hurt my feelings.

You cut me deep just now. No more memes for you.

[SB52]

37 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

But as we all know, even if a person doesn't appear drunk, he/she could still be a danger behind the wheel.  Way too much grey area for anything to hold up.  

We’re thinking as if the law matters. This is Las Vegas. This will be resolved however the powerful forces behind the scenes want it resolved. If this were most major cities in our country the establishment would get taken to the cleaners.

It’s not really about "personal responsibility” or TIPS training. It’s about politics.

[LeanMeanGM]

 

[RLC]

Kansas City beating GB would be great news to push Indy out of the playoffs. Need those 500 AFC teams to win.

[Ipiggles]

9 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I agree, but this roster isnt great and he's already in his 30s. How many years does he have left? 5?

I would take 5 years of having a legitamate top QB , which means you have 5 years of having a legitamate chance, we have the makings of a young Oline, and aa young WR corps, decent TE, Rb's are easy to find. 

The defense needs more work, but WIlson is used to having to WIn shootouts. 

[bpac55]

46 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Teams usually carry 9-10 DBs on their roster, the fact that Howie was shopping Cox and Dillard says he doesn't see a wildcard this year as a realistic goal and is maneuvering for next season.

Why add Gowan and Vincent? My suspicion is they scouted these guys for the draft, liked what they saw but were concerned about the opt out year. Then they probably reviewed pre-season film of these guys, noted how they physically matured after missing a year, and how they progressed as players. It's very possible that they considered them better players than their 2021 draft slots. Especially if Gannon, who has been a DB coach, reviewed those players and felt they fit his scheme. So they were on the "wish list" of players to acquire if they shake free.

Vincent for example, needed to add strength (8 reps at 225), Gowan has outside CB size but probably needs a lot of work on technique.

McPhearson and McCain are both 5'11, so they are potential outside as well as nickel, or even a move to safety.

They also have Riley and Mayden on the PS.

Harris, Maddox and Nelson are UDFAs, the jury is still out on Epps and Wallace, so stocking up on low cost, athletic DBs is not a bad idea. All of the guys they added test well athletically.

The purpose of draft picks is to add talent, when you can use a 6th rd pick to add a player who is only 22 or 23 and for whom you have better information than a college player (b/c you have pre-season film against NFL talent in NFL schemes), why not? Draft picks, trades, waiver wire, when rebuilding you fill out the back of the roster and the PS with as many young athletes with upside as you can find. The open additions in the secondary started last season with guys like Jacquet, Arnold, etc.

Doesn't preclude adding a top player, but depth is always good.

OK, so the Eagles have 13 DB, 9 which are CB.   They also don't even play a Dime defense.  The only CB playing meaningful defensive snaps are Slay, Nelson and Maddox.

Slay- starter

Nelson- starter

Maddox- 362 snaps (62%) on defense.  Only 23 (11%) ST snaps.

Chachere- 20 snaps on defense.  82% ST snaps, has played every game.

Scott- 16 snaps on defense.  56% ST snaps, has played in 5 games.

McPhearson- 2 snaps on defense.  86% ST snaps, played in 7 games before injury.

Gowan- 16 snaps on defense.  52% ST snaps.  Only 1 game as an Eagle and snaps all because of blowout win.

McCain- 0 snaps on defense.  43% ST snaps.  Played in 1 game.

Vincent- TBD what his role is will be.

 

IMO, this is not a good way to build a roster.  9 guys when realistically they could get away with 6.  Gowan, McCain, Scott and Vincent could all be on the PS.  It makes no sense to carry them on the active roster with the new PS rules.  They can protect and call up when needed.  

Slay, Nelson, Maddox, Chachere, McPhearson and pick one of the other guys should be on the active roster.  

[Ipiggles]

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I think I was 2000.  I have had like 6 different names.  I remember one of the first topics I responded too was when some poster named MaryQueenOfArkansas, or something to the effect, was spewing about how they looked against the Titans late in that season.  I was also around when the whole Levon Kirkland posts were happening.  

Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes.  

Remember that well.  (Joe Jerevisous... ugh...)  

[bpac55]

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

You're forgetting the draft discount.

My suspicion is Schwartz wanted Avery (he likes his fastballs) then couldn't figure out what to do with him as he moved away from the wide 9. I find it hard to believe Howie just goes out and trades (drafts) for players without talking to the coordinator/position coach to see if the player is a fit. We know Stoutland lobbies for players he likes, I suspect most coaches do.

Notice Avery has settled in as a SLB, sometimes it's the right player waiting for the right DC. Avery was always a better fit at LB (too short to be a DE).

Sometimes it's circumstances, I'm sure Gannon saw Kerrigan as a fit for his hybrid fronts, then Graham gets injured, Sweat isn't built for 50 snaps a game, so Kerrigan has to play with his hand on the ground and is struggling. Domino impact, which is why some injuries have a bigger impact, not just the lost of a player, but playing other players out of position.

Tallest midget is nothing to brag about.  You use the word settled.  The Eagles are settling with Avery at SLB because they have nothing better.  Someone has to play.  

[austinfan]

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, so the Eagles have 13 DB, 9 which are CB.   They also don't even play a Dime defense.  The only CB playing meaningful defensive snaps are Slay, Nelson and Maddox.

Slay- starter

Nelson- starter

Maddox- 362 snaps (62%) on defense.  Only 23 (11%) ST snaps.

Chachere- 20 snaps on defense.  82% ST snaps, has played every game.

Scott- 16 snaps on defense.  56% ST snaps, has played in 5 games.

McPhearson- 2 snaps on defense.  86% ST snaps, played in 7 games before injury.

Gowan- 16 snaps on defense.  52% ST snaps.  Only 1 game as an Eagle and snaps all because of blowout win.

McCain- 0 snaps on defense.  43% ST snaps.  Played in 1 game.

Vincent- TBD what his role is will be.

 

IMO, this is not a good way to build a roster.  9 guys when realistically they could get away with 6.  Gowan, McCain, Scott and Vincent could all be on the PS.  It makes no sense to carry them on the active roster with the new PS rules.  They can protect and call up when needed.  

Slay, Nelson, Maddox, Chachere, McPhearson and pick one of the other guys should be on the active roster.  

What's the goal? Are you saying Howie should go all out to get a wildcard spot, even if it means exposing a young player he thinks has upside to keep a veteran at another position who'd be more valuable to a wildcard run?

[LeanMeanGM]

Might miss next week too. Best case scenario is he's allowed back the day before the game.

[bpac55]

26 minutes ago, MillerTime said:

 

This team is delusional if they think Russell Wilson is the answer.  It's been 7 years since the Seahawks were in the SB.  They've had success in the Wild Card since but nothing else.  I'd argue that the Seattle coaching staff and roster has been better than the Eagles for the majority of those years.  If Wilson couldn't do it with that team then there's no way he's going to do it with the way Howie has built and is building this team.  

This is why my emotional investment of the team has become so small.  The Eagles have no idea what they actually are.  Not only does Sirianni have no idea what the identity is on gameday but they have no identity as a franchise.  It's the Jeff and Howie show.  They are finally loaded up to completely rebuild this team with young talent and if the reports are true, they want to throw that away for a few EXPENSIVE years with Wilson.

Please, one thousand times no.

[Connecticut Eagle]

Think 2022 when evaluating the CB moves.

Nelson and possibly Maddox won't be around. They could also trade Slay to save $4M (per OTC).

Can't count on getting a stud in the draft, especially if they choose to use their draft assets on a QB.

Buying a bunch of lottery tickets is OK.

[RLC]

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

OK, so the Eagles have 13 DB, 9 which are CB.   They also don't even play a Dime defense.  The only CB playing meaningful defensive snaps are Slay, Nelson and Maddox.

IMO, this is not a good way to build a roster.  9 guys when realistically they could get away with 6.  Gowan, McCain, Scott and Vincent could all be on the PS.  It makes no sense to carry them on the active roster with the new PS rules.  They can protect and call up when needed.  

Slay, Nelson, Maddox, Chachere, McPhearson and pick one of the other guys should be on the active roster.  

In the 2nd half of the season, it'll be much easier to play dime.

I wonder whether they'll move some of our CBs to safety. 

Buffalo's safeties are Hyde (6'0, 195) and Poyer (6'0, 193) and they're arguably the best S duo in the NFL. Gowan & McPhearson fits that. Vincent & McCain are shorter.

[austinfan]

29 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

/\/\/\ This right here is how we lose freedoms, and how and why they attack the 2nd amendment.  "if we take away your guns, then no one will be shot by your guns" knowing full well criminals dont care about laws. Much like how Drunks dont care about driving drunk. 

And I dissagree with it.   The person responsible is the person doing the drinking and then doing the driving,  period.  The only other person who in my opinion could be somewhat culpable at all, is his GF who got in the car and knew he was driving and knew he was drunk. And even that is sketchy in my mind.....  

 

The rest is just BS. 

 

The problem with alcohol is it lowers inhibitions and clouds judgement, so a drunk deciding to drive is a foreseeable event, which means the person who aided in getting that person drunk is also responsible if he knows said person plans to drive home intoxicated.

"No man is an island, he's a peninsula."

"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, nothin' ain't worth nothin' but it's free."

The complete second amendment:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."

No, the Michigan Militia does not qualify as a militia under the Constitution (it's not well regulated), the state national guard would.

 

[bpac55]

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

What's the goal? Are you saying Howie should go all out to get a wildcard spot, even if it means exposing a young player he thinks has upside to keep a veteran at another position who'd be more valuable to a wildcard run?

The goal is to develop young talent across the roster.  9 CB is ridiculous.  Let's say they keep 7 CB. 

You could bring in a WR6 to push JJAW and Ward.  How about another safety to challenge Wallace?  You could elevate Howard to the active roster.  There are so many other ways to utilize roster spots. 

 

And another thing.  If they trade multiple 1st round picks for Wilson, all they are doing is building a WC team.

 

[austinfan]

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

In the 2nd half of the season, it'll be much easier to play dime.

I wonder whether they'll move some of our CBs to safety. 

Buffalo's safeties are Hyde (6'0, 195) and Poyer (6'0, 193) and they're arguably the best S duo in the NFL. Gowan & McPhearson fits that. Vincent & McCain are shorter.

Poyer was our 7th rd pick. Cut by Kelly in mid-season. Picked up by Cleveland to play STs, then part-time starter in his 3rd season, starter since that time.

Guess lottery tickets do pay off.

[Original Sin]

19 minutes ago, RLC said:

Kansas City beating GB would be great news to push Indy out of the playoffs. Need those 500 AFC teams to win.

Unvaccinated 

[NCiggles]

35 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Please no.

We will get Russett Wilson