2 hours ago, greend said:

We had one but we pissed it all away. BTW Rodgers has only won one Super Bowl just like Wentz/Foles

Fixed.

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Making the playoffs in 2016 was a necessary step for the 2017 SB run.

Making the playoffs last year when they didn’t deserve it sure helped the WFT.

Making the playoffs when you don’t deserve it simply because you can beat PS qbs doesn’t have a ton of value.  Now, if they shock everyone and go on a run, different story.  If they get blown out in the first game, it was a waste of draft capital.

Good thing we didn’t make the playoffs and got a player with such a tremendous high ceiling like Derek Barnett 

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wouldn't.  It empowers Lowie that what they have done the past few years is the way to go.  And anything that does that, is dangerous for the long term future of this franchise.  But just as people pointed to 2018 and 2019 as us making the playoffs.  They'll point to this season....all slightly better than mediocre seasons where we benefit from making the playoffs with 9 wins. 

 

The last 4 season......assuming we split the last 2 games.

31-33-1

Hardly a gold standard.  

 

As long as the season tickets are sold...

As long as the merch is being sold...

As long as Eagles Twitter is active....

As long as Lurie is able to promote whatever his woke cause du jour is....

 

Nothing will dramatically change with this team.  Lurie has his SB win...status quo is good enough.  

 

And people wonder why fans like myself are just indifferent about this team/season....Because I don't believe in the direction.  I don't believe in Owner, GM, Head Coach (although he has shown signs and I might be willing to admit I was wrong about him, if he shows more improvement next season) and I most certainly don't believe in the QB that some in here tout as the future because they beat up on some cream puffs.  

But the key is the Owner/GM.  I do not believe they know how to build a strong/dominant long term winning football franchise.  

Regarding your last paragraph- they were both strong, dominate, and as long term as it gets at the beginning of this century.  They had the two elements and only two elements that allow that to happen: QB and Head Coach, with the QB being 90% of the equation.   Get those two elements in place and you get teams like NE (Though they are the anomaly), GB- but only 1 SB win in Rodgers era, Seattle with only 1 SB in Wilson area,  and KC has a chance.  

They tried with Carson and while it looked promising they screwed it up and Carson isn't a generational QB.  

My point is a strong, dominant, long term winning franchise is rare because it requires getting a QB that is about the rarest commodity on earth, so to speak.  Of the billions of people on the planet, there may only be 3-4 at any given time.  

I'm no fan of Howie, I like Lurie a bit more as he rescued the team from one of the worst owners ever.  But to get where you believe they can't get the team is a place that is predicated less on their ability and more on winning a QB lottery.

12 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

Fixed.

If not for Wentz we don't win that. Some of you haters are just ridiculous. 

29 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Something the franchise has never had. 

McNabb was a franchise qb, and I would dare to say had we taken wide receiver and offensive balance  a little more seriously, we would have won a super bowl during his era

3 minutes ago, greend said:

If not for Wentz we don't win that. Some of you haters are just ridiculous. 

Wentz did not win that Super Bowl.  

Just now, greend said:

McNabb was a franchise qb, and I would dare to say had we taken wide receiver and offensive balance  a little more seriously we would have won a super bowl during his era

I agree he was, as I think Wentz could’ve been. I was more referring to the Rodgers level of franchise level QB (the extremely rare level). 

1 minute ago, Mortimer said:

Wentz did not win that Super Bowl.  

He sure helped get us there. 

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

I agree he was, as I think Wentz could’ve been. I was more referring to the Rodgers level of franchise level QB (the extremely rare level). 

He sure helped get us there. 

I never said he did not help.   He sure did.   But as we all saw, Foles was every bit as good and then some in the playoffs.   Maybe it wasn't just Wentz, but the whole team was good.

34 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I wouldn't.  It empowers Lowie that what they have done the past few years is the way to go.  And anything that does that, is dangerous for the long term future of this franchise.  But just as people pointed to 2018 and 2019 as us making the playoffs.  They'll point to this season....all slightly better than mediocre seasons where we benefit from making the playoffs with 9 wins. 

 

The last 4 season......assuming we split the last 2 games.

31-33-1

Hardly a gold standard.  

 

As long as the season tickets are sold...

As long as the merch is being sold...

As long as Eagles Twitter is active....

As long as Lurie is able to promote whatever his woke cause du jour is....

 

Nothing will dramatically change with this team.  Lurie has his SB win...status quo is good enough.  

 

And people wonder why fans like myself are just indifferent about this team/season....Because I don't believe in the direction.  I don't believe in Owner, GM, Head Coach (although he has shown signs and I might be willing to admit I was wrong about him, if he shows more improvement next season) and I most certainly don't believe in the QB that some in here tout as the future because they beat up on some cream puffs.  

But the key is the Owner/GM.  I do not believe they know how to build a strong/dominant long term winning football franchise.  

I don't disagree with anything that you're saying.

Having said that, we have already reached a point that regardless of how the season finishes, we are likely stuck with Howie and Hurts next season as is. 

Just now, Mortimer said:

I never said he did not help.   He sure did.   But as we all saw, Foles was every bit as good and then some in the playoffs.   Maybe it wasn't just Wentz, but the whole team was good.

Does Wentz have a Super Bowl ring? He sure does. Just as many as Rodgers and Wilson have, in fact. Which is what the original statement was. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

Making the playoffs in 2016 was a necessary step for the 2017 SB run.

Making the playoffs last year when they didn’t deserve it sure helped the WFT.

Making the playoffs when you don’t deserve it simply because you can beat PS qbs doesn’t have a ton of value.  Now, if they shock everyone and go on a run, different story.  If they get blown out in the first game, it was a waste of draft capital.

 

Washington made the playoffs last year with a losing record out of default because someone from the division had to win it.  The Eagles don't have a losing record, they aren't making it out of default in a bad division, they are earning a wild card spot with how they have turned their season around since week 8. 

This isn't a team that is falling in backwards into the playoffs losing a bunch of games down the stretch as those around them lose even more.  

 

This nonsense narrative that the Eagles don't deserve to make the playoffs if they get in doesn't fit.

 

This blog is quickly turning into the most pathetic collection of "fans" and serves more as a support group for other miserable people who seemingly do not enjoy watching the team win and instead want to see them lose due to some pathetic hate for the QB. 

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Missing the playoffs last year sure provided the Giants a lot of talent to turn it around this year. 

You don't believe coaching a playoff game as HC would have any value to Sirianni going forward? You don't think that would have any value to any of the young core players here going forward? 

The giants traded out and passed on Slater, who is a stud left tackle…

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

He didnt say he did.

What he said was, if not for Wentz, we wouldnt  have won it. Which is 100000% FACT

Yes he did.  He said "Rogers has the same number of SB wins as Wentz/Foles".   He even put Foles' name second, like he came in late in the game for mop up duty.

 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

He didnt say he did.

What he said was, if not for Wentz, we wouldnt  have won it. Which is 100000% FACT

2 hours ago, greend said:

We had one but we pissed it all away. BTW Rodgers has only won one Super Bowl just like Wentz/Foles

9 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

We shall see. If a player that ends up being a star gets taken a few picks before the Eagles pick or a team trades for Wilson/Rodgers/Watson who had the edge because their pick was a few picks better, or a team a few picks ahead of us trades down with say Houston who gives up their 2023 1st to jump up to draft a QB, I don't think you'll care much about the playoff game then, unless the Eagles go on some improbable SB run.

 

Why would you think the Eagles would have taken that star a few picks before? What about the star that is likely to be picked a few picks after the Eagles pick? 

 

The Eagles ARE NOT GETTING A TOP 10 PICK IF THEY MISS THE PLAYOFFS.  People acting like the Eagles are going to miss out on some highly valuable pick when that isn't happening. It's going to be some middling pick if they don't make the playoffs.  What the hell kind of fans are going want to trade away at least one extra game in a winning season for some middling pick that will only be a handful of slots better than they will get if they make the playoffs.  

8 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

Wentz did not win that Super Bowl.  

Wentz got us there. 

This dude probably didn't even know what a Left Tackle was 3 years ago, it's astonishing how far he has come.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

McNabb was a franchise qb, and I would dare to say had we taken wide receiver and offensive balance  a little more seriously, we would have won a super bowl during his era

If McNabb was a franchise QB, Hurts has a good shot at being a franchise QB.

McNabb was big, strong with a great arm, he also was a head case, an inaccurate passer, took Reid 4 years to teach him to read a defense, and he choked in the SB. Foles did not.

His first few years he depended on his legs and had to see his WRs open, then threw it through tight windows. After he got injured in 2005 and lost some mobility, he was never the same, even with great skill players. The team didn't miss a beat offensively when Vick replaced him, b/c McCoy and DeSean carried that offense, along with the OL. The five seasons he made the pro bowl, the defense carried the team, ranking 4, 2, 2, 7, 2 in points allowed.

McNabb was a good QB on a very talented team. Which shows you why you build a team, then hope for a QB having a peak season - that's easier than finding an elite QB.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

The giants traded out and passed on Slater, who is a stud left tackle…

 

So obviously they did not want him. 

He didnt say he did.

What he said was, if not for Wentz, we wouldnt  have won it. Which is 100000% FACT

 

Oh. and it is a 1000% fact that there is no way to prove that "1000% "fact"

5 minutes ago, Mortimer said:

I never said he did not help.   He sure did.   But as we all saw, Foles was every bit as good and then some in the playoffs.   Maybe it wasn't just Wentz, but the whole team was good.

And I never said he won the super bowl, he sure lead us there as for Foles in the playoffs I guess you missed the Falcons game. Just give it a rest hater

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

If McNabb was a franchise QB, Hurts has a good shot at being a franchise QB.

McNabb was big, strong with a great arm, he also was a head case, an inaccurate passer, took Reid 4 years to teach him to read a defense, and he choked in the SB. Foles did not.

His first few years he depended on his legs and had to see his WRs open, then threw it through tight windows. After he got injured in 2005 and lost some mobility, he was never the same, even with great skill players. The team didn't miss a beat offensively when Vick replaced him, b/c McCoy and DeSean carried that offense, along with the OL. The five seasons he made the pro bowl, the defense carried the team, ranking 4, 2, 2, 7, 2 in points allowed.

McNabb was a good QB on a very talented team. Which shows you why you build a team, then hope for a QB having a peak season - that's easier than finding an elite QB.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

This 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

No, Nick Foles wasnt as good as the MVP vote getter who helped us get to the #1 seed. 

Probably one of the biggest misnomers in Philly Sports. That Foles played lights out. 

He looked like poop against the raiders. Poop against the Falcons. If you remember he started the meaningless cowboys game. looked like poop, threw a pick and got pulled after. 

Trust me, in forever debt to Big **** Nik, but he was not every bit as good as Wentz. 

Foles got insanely hot for 2 games. They just happened to be the two most important games of the year. To disregard what Wentz did that year is just trolling. 

3 minutes ago, greend said:

And I never said he won the super bowl, he sure lead us there as for Foles in the playoffs I guess you missed the Falcons game. Just give it a rest hater

" BTW Rodgers has only won one Super Bowl just like Wentz/Foles "    - you