3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

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Just have no idea what they're doing. 

 

FYP

 

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

We should be at the quarter point of the NFL season but this stupid 17 game season has that all messed up but it's still a good time to take a look at the Eagles roster and how it's being used.  The Dime conversation got me thinking about what players are contributing vs. who isn't.

-Chachere, McPhearson, Epps and Bradley are the core ST guys.  They play 75% of ST snaps (everything but FG), so you can say they are important pieces to the team,  consider them starters.

-JJAW, Stoll, Singleton, Ridgeway, Edwards, Avery, J. Scott, Eliiott are your other starting ST players playing 50% of the ST snaps.  Interesting to see Singleton, the only starter besides OL, playing ST and Josiah Scott, who was just activated playing that much.  Singleton should be just a ST guy if we're being honest.

-Boston Scott, Brett Toth, Sua Opeta, Greg Ward, Davion Taylor and Patrick Johnson all hovering in that 25% of ST snaps per game range. 

-You go in to a game with extra OL with the hope none of them have to play a down so Opeta and Toth are expected to play little to no snaps other than ST. 

-In the past, RB3 would be making some sort of contribution other than ST.  Boston Scott is giving this team nothing right now.  Is this an offensive scheme thing?  He's playing 7 snaps a game on ST and has 4 garbage time offensive snaps all year.  Why is he on the team?  Can we upgrade here?

-Same goes with Greg Ward.  He's not a core ST player as he only plays 25% of the snaps and he's playing about 20% of the offensive snaps.  Yes, he has 2 TD on 2 catches but let's be real. The Bears added Jakeem Grant from the Dolphins today in exchange for a 2023 6th round pick.  In 5 years, he averages 10 yards per PR with 3 TDs while averaging 25 yards per KOR with 2 TDs.  He's also averaged 16, 13, 9 and 10 YPC on offense.  This is the kind of guy you bring in to replace Greg Ward.  He brings a punch on ST and can bring a big play on offense.  I would have made that trade in a heartbeat.  

-Of the 6 CB they dress, only 3 play on defense.  The others are ST players.

-Then you look at LB.  The worst position on the team has 7 players active on Sundays.  Makes no sense to me.  Just have no idea what they're doing. 

 

Seriously, I think the current administration realized that they could do better than most of the dreck they inherited. But it all couldn't be addressed in one off season.

Scott, Ward, all the LBs may be gone in six months.

Play Scott and Ward at LB

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He took 25 minutes to say that Howie is really good at kicking the can of bad contracts into the future, to try to cover up for his bad moves and have them impact the team as little as possible.  Except the issue isn't just Cox... it's Brooks, it's Johnson, it's Graham, it's Kelce, it's Ertz... it's Jeffery, it's Malik Jackson, it's Desean Jackson.

If it was just one bad contract, it wouldn't be a big deal.  But, he's made a habit of giving bad contracts to aging players that can't live up to their salary, and he does a tap dance of creative accounting to basically just borrow from the future to pay for his past mistakes. 

You want to argue Jeffrey and DeSean, fine. Bad moves.

Malik was a freak injury, he was a perfect fit for this defense in his prime. Got benched b/c the scheme got changed, same way Hargrave didn't fit the 3-4.

Ertz was a bargain deal.

Kelce is an all pro center, same with Brooks and Lane. Graham was more than playing up to his contract. All were playing at a high level.

Some of these moves are "zero impact," say I move $10M into next year, freeing up $10M this year to provide flexibility, then slide that $10M into next year. No net dead money impact unless I actually use that money, which probably mean an emergency or a bargain i can't refuse.

Question when rebuilding is do you blow it up, but in the NFL, you never get much in trades, and a couple FAs probably won't contribute much more than your veterans. So it's not like baseball or ice hockey when you can get big hauls for trading stars in their late 20s/early 30s.

41 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Not disagreeing, and I'm not Interested in excuses just results and the results say so far he hasn't lived up to the expectations and his contract, blame the scheme his injuries the players around him either way he hadn't measured up 

I feel bad for him, he's a pretty good player and his talent is being wasted on a really bad team after being on some really bad teams in Detroit, and it's on Howie for thinking slay was the missing link to a team he thought was still competing for the playoffs.

Bad evaluation by Howie on an aging player in decline bringing him to a team with zero help.

 

 

Sounds like you aren’t interested in context. 

5 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You want to argue Jeffrey and DeSean, fine. Bad moves.

Malik was a freak injury, he was a perfect fit for this defense in his prime. Got benched b/c the scheme got changed, same way Hargrave didn't fit the 3-4.

Ertz was a bargain deal.

Kelce is an all pro center, same with Brooks and Lane. Graham was more than playing up to his contract. All were playing at a high level.

Some of these moves are "zero impact," say I move $10M into next year, freeing up $10M this year to provide flexibility, then slide that $10M into next year. No net dead money impact unless I actually use that money, which probably mean an emergency or a bargain i can't refuse.

Question when rebuilding is do you blow it up, but in the NFL, you never get much in trades, and a couple FAs probably won't contribute much more than your veterans. So it's not like baseball or ice hockey when you can get big hauls for trading stars in their late 20s/early 30s.

Disagree. He was coming off a very down 2018 season. To the point where the jags benched him. And there were a ton of question marks about his run defense and that he wasn’t the pass rusher he was the previous years and with Denver.  Then he got hurt with the eagles. They gave him that contract to make sure he’d sign here and not elsewhere. But he was beginning to decline in 2018, i know cause i said it was a bad contract the moment they signed it based on his 2018 performance. Just banking on him returning to 2017 and prior form was a mistake with how the money was going to be paid out and they are still paying for it. 

i know it’s pff he went from a 79.6 to a 61. It was pretty obvious that no one was going to pay him that type of contract. The eagles believed he’d return back to 2017 form and then he got hurt and then wasn’t that good 

13 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

 

 

Smith is open in the back of the end zone.  The pocket is sound, but you see Hurts starting to look to escape, which he eventually does.  Execution.

Slay is fine. He's one of the few players on that side of the ball with any semblance of talent. There's really not much he can do by himself to make up for the rest of the garbage he's floating around with.

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

Smith is open in the back of the end zone.  The pocket is sound, but you see Hurts starting to look to escape, which he eventually does.  Execution.

Multiuple times Hurts could have thrown elsewhere for bigger better gains. Was watching even Reagor is open at times where Hurts goes with a checkdown or bails on the play. 

I didn’t get to watch the game because I’m out of market. From the portion I did see, the o-line seemed to play surprisingly well.
Did anyone stand out as a potential Brooks/Lane replacement? Would be huge to have that already covered with the other needs everywhere else.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not creative enough...

 

 

Now this one... is creative.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

Oh Deary me. What a disgrace.

2 hours ago, Utebird said:

Question for the blog.

Cox eagles highest paid player, through 4 games 4 tackles zero sacks.

Slay- leagues highest paid corner- through 4 games 1 PD zero INT.

Who deserves majority of blame Howie or the players???

Howie.   Not even close.

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Sounds like you aren’t interested in context. 

I'm fine with context, I'm not Interested in excuses.

One can come up with a million reason why some one played poorly, yet they still played poorly 

Slay had his worse career numbers last year in every metric, some of that can be attributed to injuries, scheme, players around him ect, and some of it is he just didn't play that well 

He's played better this year, Gannon has out him in position where he's more comfortable and effective and he's been healthy and even with that he still hasn't made enough plays or made a big enough impact, at least not to the point thats worth the 4th highest CB contract.

1 hour ago, hputenis said:

You and IP competing for the most people ignore:

49.   I've got no competitor... except maybe Veejer now.

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Not creative enough...

 

 

Now this one... is creative.

This optimizes Howie's last 3 years.

 

36 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Seriously, I think the current administration realized that they could do better than most of the dreck they inherited. But it all couldn't be addressed in one off season.

Scott, Ward, all the LBs may be gone in six months.

It couldn't be addressed in this offseason, because they had no money left to sign anyone.  They signed Eric Wilson and Anthony Harris... and some were wow'd that Howie managed to bring in players.  He overpaid for them both given what we are getting.

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

It could be argued each was less heinous than the one before

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

I'm fine with context, I'm not Interested in excuses.

One can come up with a million reason why some one played poorly, yet they still played poorly 

Slay had his worse career numbers last year in every metric, some of that can be attributed to injuries, scheme, players around him ect, and some of it is he just didn't play that well 

He's played better this year, Gannon has out him in position where he's more comfortable and effective and he's been healthy and even with that he still hasn't made enough plays or made a big enough impact, at least not to the point thats worth the 4th highest CB contract.

Context does not equal excuses. Man coverage is significantly more difficult than zone coverage. There’s a reason why teams play more of it. There aren’t a lot of corners who travel with No. 1s either.

And I’m not sure Slay is in a more comfortable position. He’s not really a zone corner. Kudos to him for making a smooth transition, at least through four games.

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

 

Prepping for his next job at Jiffy Lube, he’s just checking her oil. 

29 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You want to argue Jeffrey and DeSean, fine. Bad moves.

Malik was a freak injury, he was a perfect fit for this defense in his prime. Got benched b/c the scheme got changed, same way Hargrave didn't fit the 3-4.

Ertz was a bargain deal.

Kelce is an all pro center, same with Brooks and Lane. Graham was more than playing up to his contract. All were playing at a high level.

Some of these moves are "zero impact," say I move $10M into next year, freeing up $10M this year to provide flexibility, then slide that $10M into next year. No net dead money impact unless I actually use that money, which probably mean an emergency or a bargain i can't refuse.

Question when rebuilding is do you blow it up, but in the NFL, you never get much in trades, and a couple FAs probably won't contribute much more than your veterans. So it's not like baseball or ice hockey when you can get big hauls for trading stars in their late 20s/early 30s.

Kelce is an All-Pro.  Brooks and Johnson were.  And they had 2 years left on their deals, when Howie restructured them.  It wasn't needed.  Brooks was restructured after his first Achilles injury.  And was still made the highest paid OG in the NFL at the time, as he hit the magic 30 mark, after he had proven to be a bit prone to being injured.  Johnson similarly was coming off injuries when he got his new deal, only to get another new deal before this season.  

 

But, hey, Howie can't be called on to the carpet... he had to make these moves because they couldn't draft their replacements.  He had to add free agents to fill in for his failures. The original deals were good, and would have run their course, just as their replacements should have been ready to step in.  But, they couldn't find those replacements.  And had to spend a first round pick on a WR in 2015, 2020 and 2021, plus one in the second round in 2019.  

26 minutes ago, eaglesflyers#1 said:

I didn’t get to watch the game because I’m out of market. From the portion I did see, the o-line seemed to play surprisingly well.
Did anyone stand out as a potential Brooks/Lane replacement? Would be huge to have that already covered with the other needs everywhere else.

Apparently Dickerson had the 4th highest run block ranking of any IOL, it was on only 10 running plays so take it for what it's worth.

Dillard had 3 penalties but didn't give up any sacks, he looked really quick out in space and to the second level but once there blocked no one.

Herbig is no longer morbidly obese and Driscoll did surprisingly well at RT after being switched there after warming up at RG.

Considering the odd circumstances I think they played really well.

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It could be argued each was less heinous than the one before