EMB Blog: 2022 Off-Season

[CouchKing]

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

It means other teams are waiting to sign him.  And if he was signing with us it could have been done already because we aren't getting any comp picks.

So, there is competition.

Maybe the Eagles are more attractive now / make sense.

And, does Howie have money? And years of it to offer the contract?

It dollars and sense.

[Guest justrelax]

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I saw that. And it affected him on the field this year. But it looks like his mobility is back.

There is reason to believe his knee is clean at this point since he didnt have another surgery after his latest MRI. 

Not to be a nattering nabob of negativity but if he were really healthy or even close to healthy he would have been drafted. This is too good to be true.

[D-Shiznit]

Last year the best UDFA QB on the market was Jamie Newman, he didn't even make it past rookie mini-camp.

But hey, a little hype and excitement never hurt nobody.

[Iggles_Phan]

8 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

What is the definition of the start of a QB_Era?

I think it's the designation as starter / QB1. That's when the Era starts.

For example, Steve Young was drafted, but the 49ers were still in the Joe Montana Era.

History lesson for you:  Young went to the USFL first, then Tampa, and was traded to the 49ers.  

 

As for the QB_Era... its a joke running back years and years.  Ask @Wentz_Era about it.

[DeathByEagle]

27 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

What is the significance of the Monday May 2 date for compensatory picks related to free agency? 

How does this impact the Eagles pursuit of Honey Badger?

 

It will impact the entire league. There will be a run on FAs next week for sure. Don;t over pay Howie, we are not winning no SB this year. 

[Iggles_Phan]

15 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – Game 1

WR(5): Smith, Brown, Watkins, Pascal, Covey

Watching this...

Just cut Reagor now and give Covey his #18.  Reagor never looked this comfortable as a punt returner in college even.  Covey is the PR and a guy that likely could be very dangerous if they have to stick with those plays that they designed in an effort to desperately help Reagor get involved.  He couldn't be worse.

25 year old rookie, but who cares?  Kid can run and return punts for me.  Just catching it cleanly and knowing when to let it bounce would be a massive step up from our last two.

[ManuManu]

 

[The Blackfish]

On this day in 2008, Scott Steiner "Big Poppa Pump” unveils his version of Steiner Math; 

In other words, Carson Strong will be the starting QB for the Philadelphia Eagles in 2022.  Lets F’n Go!!!

[bpac55]

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

 

My hunch is Herbig or Seumalo are moved at some point.  

[bpac55]

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Watching this...

Just cut Reagor now and give Covey his #18.  Reagor never looked this comfortable as a punt returner in college even.  Covey is the PR and a guy that likely could be very dangerous if they have to stick with those plays that they designed in an effort to desperately help Reagor get involved.  He couldn't be worse.

25 year old rookie, but who cares?  Kid can run and return punts for me.  Just catching it cleanly and knowing when to let it bounce would be a massive step up from our last two.

I hope he gets a fair shake when it comes to the final roster and draft status.  If he out performs Reagor does Howie still try to save face by not cutting his former 1st rounder?

Covey is an ELITE return man and offers a quick twitch out of the slot.  Like you said, he just looks comfortable back there too.  He's just TINY.  5-8 barely 170.  Although Jakeem Grant is onily 5-7 170 and he's a top returner in the NFL. 

[Guest justrelax]

11 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

An undrafted QB 3rd on the depth chart will not be competing for the starting job.  Jalen Hurts has already established himself as the starter heading into 2022.  Carson Strong will be fighting for a spot on the 53 man roster.  He needs to show himself too good to cut to the point that the Eagles keep 3 QBs on their roster or good enough that they are willing to trade Minshew for a 3rd or 4th.   At the very least he needs to show himself good enough to comeback on the practice squad. 

 

But competing for the starting job this summer just isn't in the cards and you shouldn't delude yourself into thinking it is.  

Has there ever in the history of this league been an undrafted rookie QB that won the starting job in training camp/preseason?  You gotta remember you're thinking that not only will there be a QB competition but Strong will be beating out both Hurts and Minshew for the starting job.  

 

 

 

 

 

Johnny Unitas was a 9th-round draft choice of the Steelers who was cut before ever playing a snap. He worked construction and played semi-pro for $6 a game, then went to a Colts tryout with a buddy. He stuck and when the starter went down he got to play. Remember that, back then squads were much smaller, like 35-40 guys. His first pass was intercepted and he fumbled on his second snap.

Kurt Warner was undrafted in 1994. Five years later he managed to get a place on the Rams. When the starter went down, he became the starter.

Both these guys got their shot because the starter went down. Maybe Hurts will tweak a tendon.

 

[Freshmilk]

5 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

My hunch is Herbig or Seumalo are moved at some point.  

Herbig yes, but don't see why Seumalo.  He is way more versatile than Herbig and Dillard.  He and  Driscoll are the two most versatile players on the OL.  Doesn't make sense to trade him with both he and Driscoll being injury risks.  I think Seumalo is penciled in as the starter at RG with Driscoll the 6th lineman,  then open competition for the remaining 4 OL spots.

[RLC]

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

My hunch is Herbig or Seumalo are moved at some point.  

Whichever team loses a starting OL this off-season/training camp is going to call us first. Unlike QB which is rarer, this happens to OL every year because there are 5 of them and OL is a physical position. Trading Herbig, Seumalo or Dillard also saves on cap space.

[pallidrone]

13 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

On this day in 2008, Scott Steiner "Big Poppa Pump” unveils his version of Steiner Math; 

In other words, Carson Strong will be the starting QB for the Philadelphia Eagles in 2022.  Lets F’n Go!!!

So he has 141 2/3 percent chance of being the starting QB?

[Wentz_Era]

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I will not settle down.  How am I supposed to do that? We are in the Strong_Era now!

AKTUALLY...Perry_Era!

[Diehardfan]

32 minutes ago, RLC said:

Projected 2022 Depth Chart – Game 1

Offense (25)
QB(3): Hurts, Minshew, Strong
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Gainwell, Brooks
TE(3): Goedert, Stoll, Calcaterra
WR(5): Smith, Brown, Watkins, Pascal, Reagor/Ward/Covey
OL(10) Mailata, Dickerson, Kelce, Seumalo, Johnson
Jurgens, Herbig, Dillard, Driscoll, Clark,

Defense (25)
DE(4): Sweat, Barnett, Graham, Williams
DT(4): Cox, Hargrave, Davis, Ellis
ILB(2): White, Edwards
OLB(5): Reddick, Dean, Taylor, Kyron Johnson, Bradley/Patrick Johnson
S(4): Harris, Epps, Chachere, Wallace,
CB(6): Slay, Maddox, McPhearson, 3 of Scott/Goodrich/Blackwell/Vincent/Gowan/Jobe

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Siposs
LS: Lovato

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Going through this, some things stand out

1) The depth on the OL is incredible for 2022. 2023 will lose 3 guys (Kelce, Seumalo, Herbig), so I could see more focus on OL next year, especially if Lane's play slips this year.
2) Kennedy Brooks is going to make the roster as #4 because there's no competition, he offers something different than the other 3 backs and he got a good guarantee. Ironically, he profiles as Wayne Gallman. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/kennedy-brooks/ . That's a good outcome for RB #4 and a UDFA.
3) Reagor is not a lock to make the team if he's not a PR...but none of us want him returning anyway
4) We have a good top 7 on the DL, but there's no quality in terms of 8-10. This makes sense given how we want more 3-4 looks. There are more competent LBs who can rush the passer (Reddick, Johnson and to a lesser extent Dean) than we're used to. I put Williams at DE, because he's going to play a bunch of 5Tech IMO.
5) We have lots of DB depth, but no starters. If we sign a veteran DB, I hope there's limited guaranteed money because there are enough bodies to hopefully have one guy pop. The CB vs. WR battles in training camp are going to be fun.
6) Really wish we could have drafted a punter.
7) Get ready for us to draft RB, QB, CB and DL in 2023.

 

They have QB1 now and can go DE, CB, S rounds one and two 😉

[Connecticut Eagle]

7 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Johnny Unitas was a 9th-round draft choice of the Steelers who was cut before ever playing a snap. He worked construction and played semi-pro for $6 a game, then went to a Colts tryout with a buddy. He stuck and when the starter went down he got to play. Remember that, back then squads were much smaller, like 35-40 guys. His first pass was intercepted and he fumbled on his second snap.

Kurt Warner was undrafted in 1994. Five years later he managed to get a place on the Rams. When the starter went down, he became the starter.

Both these guys got their shot because the starter went down. Maybe Hurts will tweak a tendon.

 

More likely someone from the Blog does a Tanya Harding on his knee.

[The Blackfish]

5 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

So he has 141 2/3 percent chance of being the starting QB?

Give or take 1/3, yes. 

[Don Corleone]

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

More likely someone from the Blog does a Tanya Harding on his knee.

[Diehardfan]

10 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

More likely someone from the Blog does a Tanya Harding on his knee.

😆🙏

[greendestiny27]

20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Like Sills, Goodrich and Jobe the most. I wasn't a fan of Kennedy at all. Strong was an easy dice roll. 

[eagle45]

10 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Johnny Unitas was a 9th-round draft choice of the Steelers who was cut before ever playing a snap. He worked construction and played semi-pro for $6 a game, then went to a Colts tryout with a buddy. He stuck and when the starter went down he got to play. Remember that, back then squads were much smaller, like 35-40 guys. His first pass was intercepted and he fumbled on his second snap.

Kurt Warner was undrafted in 1994. Five years later he managed to get a place on the Rams. When the starter went down, he became the starter.

Both these guys got their shot because the starter went down. Maybe Hurts will tweak a tendon.

 

Yep.  The later a QB is drafted, the more luck they need in being given a shot and the more spectacular their flash needs to be when they get it.  

That's been half my argument against Hurts, who wasn't THAT big of a draft investment himself, when everyone keeps preaching patience.  Regardless, it will take an enormous amount of things to fall into place for Strong to get a shot and succeed.

[Wentz_Era]

30 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

History lesson for you:  Young went to the USFL first, then Tampa, and was traded to the 49ers.  

 

As for the QB_Era... its a joke running back years and years.  Ask @Wentz_Era about it.

That's why I'm sad that the mods won't let me change my name...I'm 'stuck with my choice'.  I think Kinne_era was my fav!

[Iggles_Phan]

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Yep.  The later a QB is drafted, the more luck they need in being given a shot and the more spectacular their flash needs to be when they get it.  

That's been half my argument against Hurts, who wasn't THAT big of a draft investment himself, when everyone keeps preaching patience.  Regardless, it will take an enormous amount of things to fall into place for Strong to get a shot and succeed.

Brady got it when Bledsoe got hurt.  Warner got it when Trent Green was injured.   I forget how Romo got his shot, but he got one.  Prescott got his when Romo couldn't play.  

But, with the way that this team plays in PS... Strong might get 3/4 of most of the games to show his wares.  

Just now, Wentz_Era said:

That's why I'm sad that the mods won't let me change my name...I'm 'stuck with my choice'.  I think Kinne_era was my fav!

Embrace it and just add a #formerlyFerris in your sig.   

[Iggles_Phan]

1 minute ago, Wentz_Era said:

That's why I'm sad that the mods won't let me change my name...I'm 'stuck with my choice'.  I think Kinne_era was my fav!

Alternatively, I'm guessing you could do an end run and just go directly to @VaBeach_Eagle.  If he can update people's post counts, etc.  I'm sure he can help you with the name.   Just a question of if he will or not, I think.