16 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Woke has been adopted by those that don’t really understand the basis for being woke, basically being aware to now incorporate positions well beyond its original meaning and so over the top as to be rejected by many, including me.. Because of that it may be viewed as a negative.  There is a world of difference from what "woke” originally meant to what it means today.  But that doesn’t mean that those who don’t identify as the current adoption of the term suggests are ignorant or even hold to some of the belief of those that identify as "woke”. 

Toast isn’t ignorant, he just doesn’t agree with you on some issues. That’s okay. Have you ever read folks like Bill Kristol, George Will, William Buckley?  All traditional conservatives, as I see it.  But each has beliefs that might be viewed negatively by other "conservatives ".  Each is or in the case of Buckley, was an excellent writer.   I disagree with Toast on labeling. ( Was Jack Kemp a conservative or a leftist, for example?  How about Teddy Roosevelt ?)   I tend to think that adopting or assigning a label is limiting.  

 

I have not read any of those.

I do though realize that each party has changed and gone back and forth over the years, as the republican party way back in the day would be considered pretty liberal by today's standards and the DEm party pretty conservative 

Having said that I wasnt necessarily calling toast ignorant.

I was merely attempting to point out that if woke has a negative connotation then the opposite negative connotation of it would be ignorant.

I'm not big on labels either, except on packaged food which I thoroughly read before or not purchasing,other wise labeling as you say is limiting.

Im not sure if people actually identify as being woke???, it has evolved into such a negative connotation that I assume not🤷‍♂️though if someone calls me woke I'm not going to be offended as to me it's just an attempted insult for those that disagree with someone's view.

In my opinion it's akin to me saying l, I think the eagles are the best and a cowboy fan responding by calling me a poo poo head🤷‍♂️

Not very productive.

 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Chubb. I’d say Nelson but he’s gonna get paid as a guard and we have Dickerson and i think they’ll draft/develop a future starter at guard with stoutland. Imo chubb is a pass rusher and I believe can play olb and DE. Love James and like hates but I’d take pass rusher over safety. I’m guessing the eagles would too. That said Marcus Davenport is also a FA. Eagles liked him coming out of that draft. 

Lol I totally mis read it as Nick Chubb. Bradley Chubb makes a lot more sense. Too many Chubbs!

8 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Nelson in a landslide ... but the Colts aren't quite enough of a crapshow yet to let him walk

Yep. Great player. And Seumalo is in the last year of his contract.

Won't happen though, alas.

11 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I googled a list of 2022 free agents to see if there was anyone available Howie might sign before the season and accidentally clicked on a 2023 free agent list and skimmed it a bit. So figured I’d throw it out there. If you could only have one of these free agents in March 2023 who would it be

1. Derwin James

2. Jessie Bates

3. Quenton Nelson

4. Bradley Chubb

James, eagles don't have much at Safety and after reportedly making a move for Williams from saints I think they could be in the market for one.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

FYI

 

Just watched. I’m trying to feel slightly bad for him. My take is he just grew up and still lives in a very small world. 

4 hours ago, downundermike said:

How do you guys come up with pet names ??

Mine have all been named after athletes, or sports.

First dog, pictured with the cat above was Donovan, second dog, a little yorkie, Mia, the cat above, Shady, my great Dane, ESPeN, we fostered a St Bernard, his name was Buhner, and our current cat is named Gatti.

The only exception was a dog named Harley we took in from my wifes boss at the time.

Same, named after athletes.

First chocolate lab was McNabb, complete with dog license #5 (had it saved for me every year. Currently have a yellow lab named Tillman (he’s the F’ing man). 

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Same, named after athletes.

First chocolate lab was McNabb, complete with dog license #5 (had it saved for me every year. Currently have a yellow lab named Tillman (he’s the F’ing man). 

Love labs, and rotties, but my all-time favorites are Newfoundlands. Too bad they live such short lives.

3 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Same, named after athletes.

First chocolate lab was McNabb, complete with dog license #5 (had it saved for me every year. Currently have a yellow lab named Tillman (he’s the F’ing man). 

Pat or peanut?

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Love labs, and rotties, but my all-time favorites are Newfoundlands. Too bad they live such short lives.

Newfoundlands are shorter life span??

I can’t keep this guy outta water. He’s basically Mark Spitz. 

Mine would be Nelson, but I agree he’ll 100% be re-signed, so I’d always take the pass rusher over a safety. Even with safety being the thinnest position on the roster.

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Pat or peanut?

Pat.

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Love labs, and rotties, but my all-time favorites are Newfoundlands. Too bad they live such short lives.

My friend has a newfoundland, I'd say 150 lbs if not more, just a huge dog, and just a big teddy bear and sadly it's had hip dysplasia since it was like 2 years old. ☹️

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Pat.

My first 2 dogs were named after football players, both boxers.

Seemed odd to name my current dog after a football player as she's female 🤷‍♂️

3 hours ago, austinfan said:

That's a poor parallel, the equivalent to "Cancel culture" is right wing censorship, not policy disagreements.

So for example, banning books that have LGBTQ themes, using Critical Race Theory as a bogeyman to take real history out of history books, such as the FACT that the Texas Revolution was motivated by the Mexican abolition of slavery, or the Tulsa riot of 1921 (and numerous other riots), the rise of the KKK in the 1920s and so forth. Whitewashing American history is no different than rewriting history to push an ideological narrative. It was a Civil War, not the War Between the States, and it was fought to preserve slavery.

In both cases, a small group of people impose their view of the world, without regard to facts and often block the expression of facts that contract their views.

You are correct that a factor in the Texas Revolution was Mexico’s move to limit slavery in Texas but it is hardly the only motivating factor. The main motivator was the adoption of the new Constitution that took away rights and sovereignty previously afforded the Anglo-Americans that settled in Texas.  So, as you say, that component should be included in understanding the basis of the revolution but by the same token, it should not be overemphasized. 

But that’s the problem with most of the arguments surrounding the way history is presented.  The overt overreaction to viewing historic events and individuals today from a view solely anchored in our time is oftentimes ignorant of the multitudes of cultural and societal viewpoints that exist at the time of events.  The realism is that a substantial portion of history taught to the majority of Americans (through high school) is slanted and not accurate or more honestly, bunk.  But few people actually study history in depth and even when we do, we may come to different interpretations. 

2 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

Not saying you should or shouldnt draft in the 4th or earlier, but the common draft position of a starting RB last year(or maybe 2 seasons ago was end of the 4th 

 

@TorontoEagle tried 2018, still nothing to back up this statement.

 

3 hours ago, RLC said:

Bad shorthand I guess.

Epps and Harris are starting. Chachere plays ST. Blankenship should be able to. Scott is a nickle/S hybrid.

I don't see how Tartt is making the team at this point.

 

Note Epps is out with an injury as is Mayden. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

@TorontoEagle tried 2018, still nothing to back up this statement.

 

Lol another Bacarty take with evidence that completely contradicts his position? Colour me surprised! 

13 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Currently have a yellow lab named Tillman (he’s the F’ing man). 

Good name.

We were pet free for a while after my daughter moved out and we had not kids at home, but my wife wanted a hairless cat, funny looking thing.

But I got to pick the name, Gatti, my favorite fighter all time.

 

9 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

You are correct that a factor in the Texas Revolution was Mexico’s move to limit slavery in Texas but it is hardly the only motivating factor. The main motivator was the adoption of the new Constitution that took away rights and sovereignty previously afforded the Anglo-Americans that settled in Texas.  So, as you say, that component should be included in understanding the basis of the revolution but by the same token, it should not be overemphasized. 

But that’s the problem with most of the arguments surrounding the way history is presented.  The overt overreaction to viewing historic events and individuals today from a view solely anchored in our time is oftentimes ignorant of the multitudes of cultural and societal viewpoints that exist at the time of events.  The realism is that a substantial portion of history taught to the majority of Americans (through high school) is slanted and not accurate or more honestly, bunk.  But few people actually study history in depth and even when we do, we may come to different interpretations. 

My uncle is/was a history dean at a university, his focus is early Utah history, he's written a bunch of books and a few were in school, as Utah studies courses.

Having said that to your point, some of what he writes is also about early Utah Mormon history and some of that history conflicts with the narrative history the church officially teaches.

As a kid growing up in a Mormon household I was taught and believed the Mormon narrative about Utah history 

As I've gotten older and had opportunity to read and figure things out for myself its been interesting to see how those two views differ and why and the slant that both sides take to support" their" record  of history.

How's the saying go 

History is written by the winners...

Unfortunately that's the case in Utah and the US and lots of other places.☹️

17 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Just watched. I’m trying to feel slightly bad for him. My take is he just grew up and still lives in a very small world. 

Lol I knew who it was about just by the title

Untold: The Girlfriend Who Didn’t Exist

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Come on man.  

Get a taste of my world

I just completed a Zoom training session from our HR Department on job searches. It was all I could do to not flash an upside down OK sign. I blame you guys.

15 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Newfoundlands are shorter life span??

I can’t keep this guy outta water. He’s basically Mark Spitz. 

Eight to10 years is about it. 

I'm ashamed to say that our black lab did not like swimming. Her best friend was a Newfoundland and we'd take them to Wissahickon Creek. The Newf would swim and our lab would tiptoe along the bank.  She was a great dog, loving and funny, but she never read the Lab manual.

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lol another Bacarty take with evidence that completely contradicts his position? Colour me surprised! 

He is so wrong, I took all the 1st rounders and replaced them with an 8 for UDFA, and the average is still only middle 4th round.

18 minutes ago, Utebird said:

My friend has a newfoundland, I'd say 150 lbs if not more, just a huge dog, and just a big teddy bear and sadly it's had hip dysplasia since it was like 2 years old. ☹️

A pity, that. They make great nannies.