8 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Will everyone kindly stop embarrassing the rest of us with your "it was the field" and "it was the refs"?

Either get a handle on your cognitive bias or go join the Flat Earthers licking the interior window surfaces of short-wheelbase public school buses.

It was a tight game and the Eagles lost because they failed to adjust to the Chiefs' exploitation of a fundamental weakness in our defense.

Multiple things can be true. 

The defense absolutely sucked in the second half. True. That was the worst field I've ever seen a football game played on. True.

4 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

Multiple things can be true. 

The defense absolutely sucked in the second half. True. That was the worst field I've ever seen a football game played on. True.

Everyone played on the same shite grass.

If they were playing on a mound of Jello it would still be fair.

1 minute ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Everyone played on the same shite grass.

If they were playing on a mound of Jello it would still be fair.

Yea, it was trash for both teams. I never said it was a reason the Eagles lost.

Mike Pereira on Rich Eisen explaining today that the refs went around the rules to overturn the Devonta Smith catch.

He's so frustrated over it he dropped a 'god dangit!'

3 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

Yea, it was trash for both teams. I never said it was a reason the Eagles lost.

That's fine but then you have idiots insulting the Eagles D line for coming up small.

DEs are like ice skaters on grass. They do 45 degree bends and loops with O-lineman pushing them all the time.

GTFO at anyone too stupid to understand that slop grass can kill their ability to get home.

 

NOTE: The quote is for continuation of the discussion and none of my phrasing is directed at anyone here.

2 hours ago, jsdarkstar said:

To me up 14-7, and driving to potentially make it a 21-7 lead, Hurts drops back, fumbles and the Chiefs run it back for a TD and tie the score 14-14 was a major reason for losing the game. Lose the turnover battle you usually lose the game. 

There are a lot of other reasons we lost, but the above, was just a killer. 

Gannon was another major reason why we lost. If the front 4 isn't getting to the QB, he needs to try something different, like a blitz. 

Finally, doesn't the Corner know that if your guy is in motion to the other side you shadow him and not run past him so that he can change direction and beat you back to where he came from. Poor technique Gannon's fault for not correcting it since they scored on that Gadget play twice. 

Benjamin Solak does a pretty good breakdown of those two wide open TD's. 

It was pretty clearly something the Chiefs caught on tape (or Doug Peterson brought it to their attention). I don't really think that could have been corrected in game unless you just go to zone in those situations. 

https://twitter.com/BenjaminSolak/status/1625216817500426240?s=20&t=BaZRPwPXMfwd92uqqtzkzw

7 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Everyone played on the same shite grass.

If they were playing on a mound of Jello it would still be fair.

KC didn't change their cleats though which is odd to me.

8 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

38 minus 7 equals 31. The Eagles would have won 35-31 and been Super Bowl Champions again.... IF HURTS doesn't have a fumble and HAND THE 7 points, where nobody even touched him. It IS a big deal, but Hurts protectors want to duck it. HE cost us the Super Bowl- period.

No your vaunted D-line cost you the Super Bowl. Our offensive line owned them. You guys were all pretty sure we would see another Bucs performance, not quite. Rarely felt uncomfortable in the pocket and mixed in screens and runs. While I will agree giving us 7 is not ideal, it was immediately followed up with 10 unanswered points. One bad play in the second quarter does not decide the game. Being outscored 24-11 in the second half does. That comes down to coaching and defense. The two red zone touchdowns to wide open receivers ( that were basically the same play) made that abundantly apparent.

20 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

38 minus 7 equals 31. The Eagles would have won 35-31 and been Super Bowl Champions again.... IF HURTS doesn't have a fumble and HAND THE 7 points, where nobody even touched him. It IS a big deal, but Hurts protectors want to duck it. HE cost us the Super Bowl- period.

So that one play outside of the defensive flatness, the two walk in touchdowns, the inability to even get close to Mahommes, the inability in the run game and numerous OTHER factors had nothing to do with losing the game....just the Hurts fumble, which coincidentally, after that only tied up the score and we still went in halftime up by ten points....and the only thing you say is Hurts' fumble is what cost us the game....

You people are incredible....your transparency is just beyond ridiculous at this point...I WOULD say I cant believe you actually believe this but I really can't...you people are what you are...

7 minutes ago, Carptom1 said:

No your vaunted D-line cost you the Super Bowl. Our offensive line owned them. You guys were all pretty sure we would see another Bucs performance, not quite. Rarely felt uncomfortable in the pocket and mixed in screens and runs. While I will agree giving us 7 is not ideal, it was immediately followed up with 10 unanswered points. One bad play in the second quarter does not decide the game. Being outscored 24-11 in the second half does. That comes down to coaching and defense. The two red zone touchdowns to wide open receivers ( that were basically the same play) made that abundantly apparent.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious....I have NO idea why some of these people are even fans....to say that the fumble is what ultimately cost us the game without factoring in anything else plus the follow up with 10 unanswered points is the most ridiculous and asinine thing I have seen today....

15 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

NOTE: The quote is for continuation of the discussion and none of my phrasing is directed at anyone here.

I take offense SIR!

And I challenge you to a duel!

Just now, Arthur Jackson said:

I take offense SIR!

And I challenge you to a duel!

Name the time and I shall bring my flintlock pistol and scrapbook of memes to the RnR channel of your choice 

1 minute ago, SkippyX said:

Name the time and I shall bring my flintlock pistol and scrapbook of memes to the RnR channel of your choice 

When it comes to memes I take a backseat to no man!

Wait... that sounded really gay... 

3 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:

When it comes to memes I take a backseat to no man!

Wait... that sounded really gay... 

We will be inserting memes into a channel...

Hey, maybe everything about this sounds that way!

42 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

Multiple things can be true. 

The defense absolutely sucked in the second half. True. That was the worst field I've ever seen a football game played on. True.

STs sucked. True. Mahomes looked like he was not so hurt and ran a 4.4 40 to end the game. True (kinda). 

18 minutes ago, Carptom1 said:

No your vaunted D-line cost you the Super Bowl. Our offensive line owned them. You guys were all pretty sure we would see another Bucs performance, not quite. Rarely felt uncomfortable in the pocket and mixed in screens and runs. While I will agree giving us 7 is not ideal, it was immediately followed up with 10 unanswered points. One bad play in the second quarter does not decide the game. Being outscored 24-11 in the second half does. That comes down to coaching and defense. The two red zone touchdowns to wide open receivers ( that were basically the same play) made that abundantly apparent.

 

As a Chiefs fan, the Dline was fine. They generated 17 pressures per PFF but Mahomes got like 60% of his passes out in under 2 seconds. It just doesn't matter how big of a mismatch you have when that's happening. 

This particular Chiefs offense was really only slowed down this year when they made mental errors. Same goes for the Philly offense. 

Offenses as good as these two are almost impossible to stop when they are cooking. The only way to do it is by confusing them. 

43 minutes ago, judunno said:

KC didn't change their cleats though which is odd to me.

Clark says they did have guys changing cleats. I m sure I read it on twitter or in the other forum.

1 minute ago, jamiller said:

Clark says they did have guys changing cleats. I m sure I read it on twitter or in the other forum.

Maybe they changed to the right ones.... they were showing stacks of Eagles cleats lol.

Just now, judunno said:

Maybe they changed to the right ones.... they were showing stacks of Eagles cleats lol.

Look at the main forum and there is a shot of both our ends and Mahomes all sliding during the same play. And Mahomes slipped again then got hit on the play that he threw the low ball completion to Kelce. I think the link takes you to twitter and the Clark quote saying "four or five guys changed cleats" and ****ing about the field too.

 

 

1 hour ago, Talonblood said:

38 minus 7 equals 31. The Eagles would have won 35-31 and been Super Bowl Champions again.... IF HURTS doesn't have a fumble and HAND THE 7 points, where nobody even touched him. It IS a big deal, but Hurts protectors want to duck it. HE cost us the Super Bowl- period.

Football don't work like that. You can't assume the game would have gone exactly how it played out assuming Hurts didn't fumble. Dumbest argument I've seen.

48 minutes ago, Carptom1 said:

No your vaunted D-line cost you the Super Bowl. Our offensive line owned them. You guys were all pretty sure we would see another Bucs performance, not quite. Rarely felt uncomfortable in the pocket and mixed in screens and runs. While I will agree giving us 7 is not ideal, it was immediately followed up with 10 unanswered points. One bad play in the second quarter does not decide the game. Being outscored 24-11 in the second half does. That comes down to coaching and defense. The two red zone touchdowns to wide open receivers ( that were basically the same play) made that abundantly apparent.

It comes down to offense as well. The offense only scored 11 compared to the other team's offense. It comes down to the entire team. As it always does. Not one unit is entirely to blame for the loss. They all played a role in it. And let's not forget the refs. The Eagles should have had over 1:30 and 1 TO to drive.

3 minutes ago, jamiller said:

Look at the main forum and there is a shot of both our ends and Mahomes all sliding during the same play. And Mahomes slipped again then got hit on the play that he threw the low ball completion to Kelce. I think the link takes you to twitter and the Clark quote saying "four or five guys changed cleats" and ****ing about the field too.

 

 

Ish happens I guess. I remember a Bears vs Colts Superbowl in Miami being trash weather wise.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

Ish happens I guess. I remember a Bears vs Colts Superbowl in Miami being trash weather wise.

Once it kept happening needed to adjust to do something different.  Could have taken one end and smashed the middle. Could have rushed 3 and dropped 8. Could have mush rushed the middle and MAKE Mahomes run to the edges.  Could have done something lol. 

Unreal that ANYONE ANYWHERE EVER can say anything other than we ****S on D in the 2nd when we got NO STOPS, NO HITS, NO SACKS, NO INTs and ONE incompletion AND THEN let Mahomes scramble for yards TWICE.

HOLY ISH. If I told you that before the game you would say we would lose by 3 scores.    

Just now, jamiller said:

Once it kept happening needed to adjust to do something different.  Could have taken one end and smashed the middle. Could have rushed 3 and dropped 8. Could have mush rushed the middle and MAKE Mahomes run to the edges.  Could have done something lol. 

Unreal that ANYONE ANYWHERE EVER can say anything other than we ****S on D in the 2nd when we got NO STOPS, NO HITS, NO SACKS, NO INTs and ONE incompletion AND THEN let Mahomes scramble for yards TWICE.

HOLY ISH. If I told you that before the game you would say we would lose by 3 scores.    

OH and then we let them run on us too.  WE ****S ON DEFENSE.  JUST SUCKED.  BALLS.  UNREAL.  They should all quit in shame and disgust.  They should retire lol.

1 hour ago, Arthur Jackson said:

Will everyone kindly stop embarrassing the rest of us with your "it was the field" and "it was the refs"?

Either get a handle on your cognitive bias or go join the Flat Earthers licking the interior window surfaces of short-wheelbase public school buses.

It was a tight game and the Eagles lost because they failed to adjust to the Chiefs' exploitation of a fundamental weakness in our defense.

No...because this is becoming a common occurrence with KC and questionable officiating. As far as the cognitive bias thing, it's not just us, the same sentiment is being shared throughout the league. 

In that spot and in the moment it was the WRONG call and it robbed us of 80 seconds and a potential tie/go-ahead. 

However, I will not put the blame purely on the refs because so much of the accountability falls on both sides of the ball. 

The fumble we got over, but ST and defense ending up being our undoing, which shouldn't come as a surprise. 

I've waiting all season for the other shoe to drop for ST, but that punt return was the back-breaker.