2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It isn’t actually even a factor whether DeJean CAN perform and accomplish. Thats a whole other discussion.

So what exactly are you saying ...can you explain. Because I agree with your post a few months ago.... when you said you don't express yourself well. This is perfect example

There isn’t anything I see for either of you to even debate on this subject:

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Super simple. All that matters is whether DeJean believes he is capable of playing outside CB at a high level.

All that matters is what any NFL team will pay him.

You are making it too complicated

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

So what exactly are you saying ...can you explain. Because I agree with your post a few months ago.... when you said you don't express yourself well. This is perfect example

3 years 90 mil versus 3 years 39 mil

Which will DeJean or any person ever choose?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

There isn’t anything I see for either of you to even debate on this subject:

But which subject..

.apparently that's another subject.

And this is another subject..

.and then over there is another subject?

Again...express yourself better.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So what exactly are you saying ...can you explain. Because I agree with your post a few months ago.... when you said you don't express yourself well. This is perfect example

You didn’t process how I clearly supplied the Texans setting the market paying both positions the highest league wide?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

3 years 90 mil versus 3 years 39 mil

Which will DeJean or any person ever choose?

So when it comes down to a tag... what # would get used? Is there an official " slot CB" label?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You didn’t process how I clearly supplied the Texans setting the market paying both positions the highest league wide?

You don't even process the fact that a CB is a CB.

Just now, joemas6 said:

But which subject..

.apparently that's another subject.

And this is another subject..

.and then over there is another subject?

Again...express yourself better.

You are making a case solely about whether the payday will actually be achieved. Not relevant to whether the player believes he has the ability.

Just now, joemas6 said:

You don't even process the fact that a CB is a CB.

This is way below your standards. I’ve clearly been supplying you with exact details of how this exactly is one the case.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

You don't even process the fact that a CB is a CB.

Ok you show me how any Slot guy is getting paid Stingley outside CB money.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You didn’t process how I clearly supplied the Texans setting the market paying both positions the highest league wide?

You aren't processing the idea that the other players could be seen as the 3rd best cover guy on their team.

Each team and player are different. Welker, Edlemen....they were slot WRs for the most part working the middle of the field. How were they paid?

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you are not saying anything. You refuse to say that he will move outside. I on the other hand am saying he stays an elite moving part on the defense and does not simply move outside opposite of Mitchell. They want to keep him moving around.

How are you completely missing I’m exactly explaining to you exactly why it sucks for us? I’m telling you more than I believe he moves outside. I’m giving you very specific detailed reasoning of how there isn’t a version he won’t be moving outside.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So when it comes down to a tag... what # would get used? Is there an official " slot CB" label?

I only would need to answer this question if you actually believed it had any relevance. It doesn’t..at all.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You don't even process the fact that a CB is a CB.

I laid out the most perfect example on a platter to begin this whole discussion. DBs aren’t all getting equal pay.

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You don't even process the fact that a CB is a CB.

You have nothing to even make this case with…at all.

You can't grasp the concept that DeJean is different. And that this idea of paying the slot guy way less could easily change depending upon the player.

Absolutely a strong possibility DeJean gets paid very well... top level CB money.. ( but of course in your mind it's just 2 numbers ..30 and 13.) And it's possible that his versatility is what gets him paid. Very possible that he is seen as more important of a chess piece due to his versatility.

But again... you said in 2020 that Howie messed up and we were going to have to pay Travis Fulgham big money because we waited. Too much getting ahead of yourself and overthinking

20 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I believe DeJean is the slot CB. I believe his value is in his ability to make plays from there...and to cover the key player...like Kelce, Chase or Henry. And that ability to move around to cover different positions is the best value he brings.

Was more value than Slay...and Slay you could argue was average ..not " suck" on the outside.

Your opinion I’m not even disagreeing with. But your opinion about what choices DeJean makes financially in his career are respectfully irrelevant.

Does it even matter at all if DeJean is much better Slot than outside? It doesn’t. All that matters is whether DeJean is confident in himself playing outside.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You can't grasp the concept that DeJean is different. And that this idea of paying the slot guy way less could easily change depending upon the player.

Absolutely a strong possibility DeJean gets paid very well... top level CB money.. ( but of course in your mind it's just 2 numbers ..30 and 13.) And it's possible that his versatility is what gets him paid. Very possible that he is seen as more important of a chess piece due to his versatility.

But again... you said in 2020 that Howie messed up and we were going to have to pay Travis Fulgham big money because we waited. Too much getting ahead of yourself and overthinking

This isn’t in my mind. This is laid out in detail how it’s actually the entire NFL doing it.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You can't grasp the concept that DeJean is different. And that this idea of paying the slot guy way less could easily change depending upon the player.

Absolutely a strong possibility DeJean gets paid very well... top level CB money.. ( but of course in your mind it's just 2 numbers ..30 and 13.) And it's possible that his versatility is what gets him paid. Very possible that he is seen as more important of a chess piece due to his versatility.

But again... you said in 2020 that Howie messed up and we were going to have to pay Travis Fulgham big money because we waited. Too much getting ahead of yourself and overthinking

Again…your point about what DeJean is capable of isn’t a factor here. I’m not even disagreeing with either it’s accurate if not, because it doesn’t matter.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your opinion I’m not even disagreeing with. But your opinion about what choices DeJean makes financially in his career are respectfully irrelevant.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok you show me how any Slot guy is getting paid Stingley outside CB money.

Who are the " slot guys" you would consider as good of an impact player as DeJean?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Who are the " slot guys" you would consider as good of an impact player as DeJean?

Again…no point in answering this irrelevant question

Give any reason looking at ACTUAL NFL players contracts you could believe any Slot CB’s value is near equal to outside CBs at the top end pay.

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Does it even matter at all if DeJean is much better Slot than outside? It doesn’t. All that matters is whether DeJean is confident in himself playing outside.

And that's great... Dejean and Fangio are in a room. You think all that matters is DeJean's opinion? Explain that?

You think one of two things then..

First.. Fangio would move DeJean because that's what DeJean wants?

Or .... DeJean won't resign with the Eagles because another team will play him outside and give him more money?

For you to bring this up....one of these two things has to occur. Otherwise what else..DeJean throws a temper tantrum because he remains in the slot?

Explain what you think will happen. It really seems like you think Fangio will not make the decision? You seem confident in that.. Otherwise what are you trying to say?