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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Most CEOs do argue with stadium full of their home customers

And some get shot, in the back, walking down the street

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6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Vote on Brotherly Shove today

GB is the instigator, they are mad we beat them In Brazil and reworded the complaint to make it stick more. So now I hope it's retained and we use it 12 times on them coming out of our bye week

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6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just should be an expectation towards achieving an average level of opportunity. All things being equal between most NFL O scheme and ours…the separation windows will be greater for us than average…instead of smaller.

Why?

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6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In some deep NFL meeting a quite awhile back Siri mentioned he was kind of jealous at how much Kevin Patullo was following Moore around. Patullo I credit with sharing being a hard worker with Siri. We’re really relying on that paying off here.

Link to this claim? Why would be be jealous of an under staffer learning? Maybe Siri put a good word in for him?

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6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Joe Douglas returning

Yes, I posted this 19 hours ago, you don't read posts do you?

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is a point I’ve been making indeed. Shouldn’t be any hating…but should really just have been expected…Moore didn’t have everything ironed out just yet. You know…it actually took some games to test things out and evaluate. Then work on making the proper adjustments. Really was a work in progress the whole season. Which should have always been the expectation.

I understand your point conceptually. It is a good point in concept … but only for a first-time Offensive Coordinator. Moore was definitely not a first-time Coordinator. He had 5 years installing and working with his Offensive scheme, plus one year with the Chargers.

He shouldn’t have to "test things out and evaluate.” That is what Training Camp and live scrimmages are for.

Why are you treating Moore like a wet behind the ears neophyte?

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Good to know the leader of our team and SB MVP wasn’t yanked

What game(s) was he yanked from. He started every game until his concussion.

10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just how much did we need to manage risk? I preferred to just ‘go for it’ accelerating the learning curve in the new O. Take some lumps…but grow and progress. Get far enough so things can be tweaked and adapted. Push far enough to get towards mastering as much as possible. I was more in the camp of push towards opening things up and scoring.

Your preference for going for it, taking some lumps, and progressing (or regressing as the Eagles did in 2023) is well established. It is a fantasy football mindset, and lots and lots of people share that individual stats driven approach. However, there are lots of people who don’t share your individual sport approach. They see football as a team sport. They also recognize that the team has both Offense and Defense, not just Offense like your posts seem to argue for.

Neither side is "right.” Like so many challenges in life there is no f d inhle "right” but rather many "rights” that depend on how you frame the challenge. For example if you are out walking in a hurricane, the right way to walk depends on which way the wind is blowing. The right way to walk is different if the wind is (1) blowing in your face, (2) blowing on your back, (3) blowing against your right side, (4) blowing against your left side, or (5) other.

On 5/19/2025 at 1:43 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

it brings up that phrase Great O beats great D.

You have that phrase upside down. The winner is actually the team with the most points, but when push comes to shove, Offense wins games, Defense wins the Championship.

On 5/19/2025 at 1:43 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

At my high school wrestling was our thing. State title chasing every year…kids moved in with wrestlers residing in the district from across the state. Recruited and kids seeking the best coach.

Wyoming Seminary?

On 5/19/2025 at 2:25 AM, cunninghamtheman said:

Just asking for the super basic elements in a scheme. Don’t exactly telegraph the playcall. Easy…just make sure you have several plays out of each formation. Basic. Have the receiving targets adjust to take what the D gives them. Nothing crazy..like completely different routes. Just inside/ourside/over/under. QB has to be on the same page is the key. Whole O reading and expecting the same route and positioning. Use Playaction. Elite rushing team….c’mon man…most effective run O wasn’t just crushing opponents with Playaction? Basic. Get the play in with enough time for everybody to look over the D. Simple….rushed to snap straight from the huddle never aids best awareness surrounding the D. Motion to create space for receivers as well as best way to get a ‘tell’ on the D by how they react. Not calling this basic…but every pro team uses it now over 50 percent of passing plays. Every team…not a single other coach doesn’t see the advantage of motion. Top O minds actually highest in using Motion. But Siri wasn’t even barely least using Motion. There were 31 teams …then Grand Canyon sized gap down to Siri barely using it. Audibles by the QB. Just give the guy something more than ,because the D already knew our play every time, change the long developing routes to screen pass.

I mean didn’t you notice how every D was all over exactly everything we were doing? No way that’s not a disadvantage. Separation windows aren’t going to be near as large…if the DB isn’t flat out jumping the route. AJ and Smitty still overcame kicking some butt because they are so incredible. But it’s just making everything more difficult for no real reason giving the D a big advantage. You think with pro NFL defenders knowing the playcall interceptions were more frequent? I mean duh. You really expecting any WR no matter how elite to not have DBs jumping on his route? QB you blame for more interceptions under these circumstances? When the D correctly reads any playcall presnap I’d throw out a number like 33 percent higher turnover rate there. Happens sometimes…but the majority of the time D easily reading such a stale predictable O. But..just not getting why WR not separating enough and QB in tighter windows or flat out having DBs jumping routes it’s unexpected more interceptions result? Trying to understand how any other results could be expected under those D advantage plays. How could it not be poster material of what will happen when D reads your play correctly? Tighter windows on the receiver …which can’t possibly mean easier passing for any QB.

Is there any debate more separation created by a receiver makes for an easier passing completion from the QB? Do we all agree on this much? Or is it still QB just bad execution during average play circumstances? AJ and Smitty so incredible…it’s kind of easy to point towards they still got stats. So coaching was great…won the game…stats produced. All just ignoring what happened. AJ and Smitty overcame everything so much more difficult than should be expected. Secondary knows exactly their route…couldn’t be stopped with those two. But wouldn’t they have done even more if just provided average circumstances to achieve in? Coach had that WR get 1000 yards…but is there any possible version they should have produced 1300 in just normal expected O? Not talking great playcalling boost even. Just whole D not knowing the play presnap. Feels like so much been going on. AJ and Smitty overcame…produced very well…so never considering very good stats should have actually been fantastic stats? Got to the playoffs every year. Must be coaching. Because he dug us a hole if 2-5 that carried that team there, right? Or 2023 10-1 team all time collapsed…but made the playoffs. Great coaching with a one loss team falling to can’t be 3 win cards..or even be competitive versus lowest playoff team. Freaking terrible coaching. On D blame Rosie switching to Patricia complete disaster.

This post is a textbook example of "can’t see the forest for the trees.”

Communications professionals would call it TLDNR.

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In some deep NFL meeting a quite awhile back Siri mentioned he was kind of jealous at how much Kevin Patullo was following Moore around. Patullo I credit with sharing being a hard worker with Siri. We’re really relying on that paying off here.

Sounds like something that would be reported on Fox News.

7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Most CEOs do argue with stadium full of their home customers

Elon Musk does.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

GB is the instigator, they are mad we beat them In Brazil and reworded the complaint to make it stick more. So now I hope it's retained and we use it 12 times on them coming out of our bye week

We should propose a penalty for the Lambeau Leap. Its definitely a safety hazard.

On 5/19/2025 at 1:51 PM, GreenbleedinNC said:

I should say Lurie not Howie but it won't let me edit. Poor Ham will go off the deep end. IDK how he will survive this

Seen this coming since at the latest week 10…

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19 minutes ago, mattwill said:

We should propose a penalty for the Lambeau Leap. Its definitely a safety hazard.

I like it!!!! 😃

23 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Sounds like something that would be reported on Fox News.

Straight out of Siri’s mouth at the owner HC retreat thing they do every year…can’t remember..is it Miami or something?

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seen this coming since at the latest week 10…

You get to suffer longer now..................that Siri.............................. is YOUR HC.......................... AGAIN!!!

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36 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Wyoming Seminary?

Pet Semitary

Thing is…you just know… whether a player is pushed or pulled will be looked at ten times more scrutinized against us than any other team. Will be a double whammy against st us if the vote passed today.

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You get to suffer longer now..................that Siri.............................. is YOUR HC.......................... AGAIN!!!

Just need to hope Moore provided then with enough to keep things rolling at least through this season. This season more crucial than most in organization history however. We have a clear contending team other than O coaching doubts.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Yes, I posted this 19 hours ago, you don't read posts do you?

And you were late 19 hours ago...lol

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just need to hope Moore provided then with enough to keep things rolling at least through this season. This season more crucial than most in organization history however. We have a clear contending team other than O coaching doubts.

Lurie would not sign off on Patullo just to promote him. He is qualified or he isn't

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Very relevant to winning.

Just say..." I don't like Siri....doesn't matter how good of a coach he is or if he wins, I personally don't like him"

Then we can all move on without the 300 worship essays trying to spin Siri somehow not knowing football. Less embarrassing for you and less time wasted for us.

I actually do like Siri. Guy just hasn’t been qualified to run the O. He’s a good guy. Hard worker that’s totally dedicated. No problems in any of these areas. Seems like he did grow and improve last season. I mean..you know…after the arguing with our own fans incident.

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