11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think he's likely to make it, the question is when.

Does Yanda make it over Jahari Evans? I doubt they both go in at the same time. Evans has more first team AP's, Yanda has more second team AP's and PB's.

There's also guys like Steve Wisniewski who never got in. He's got almost identical accomplishments as Yanda. 2 first team AP, 6 second team AP, 8 PB's just no Super Bowl ring.

Fair point about Wiz, he should be in by now but I still think he will get there one day. Yanda does have the ring which helps. Interior OL are seldom gonna get the nod over a skill position but the original post questioned whether Yanda even belonged as a finalist and I just don't think there's any reasonable debate about it. Dude was a beast for the Ravens year after year.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think he's likely to make it, the question is when.

Does Yanda make it over Jahari Evans? I doubt they both go in at the same time. Evans has more first team AP's, Yanda has more second team AP's and PB's.

There's also guys like Steve Wisniewski who never got in. He's got almost identical accomplishments as Yanda. 2 first team AP, 6 second team AP, 8 PB's just no Super Bowl ring.

Some weak competition in this class, the usually enshrine at least 4 right? Fitz and Brees are locks. After that I think Witten’s human credit score plus his career does it for me (a lot will disagree, but i think he’s a top 10 TE of all time). Then take your pick after that…unfortunately Luke didn’t play an extra season or 2 or he’d be a lock.

Even if they win the SB, moving on from Patullo this offseason has to be a top priority. The seat is just too big for him.

Just now, Saltpeter said:

Even if they win the SB, moving on from Patullo this offseason has to be a top priority. The seat is just too big for him.

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s any chance that if they won the SB they would fire their OC

Just now, DaBirds said:

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s any chance that if they won the SB they would fire their OC

He’d probably get a HC job and give playcalling to somebody else (*cough*cough*Gannon).

7 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Some weak competition in this class, the usually enshrine at least 4 right? Fitz and Brees are locks. After that I think Witten’s human credit score plus his career does it for me (a lot will disagree, but i think he’s a top 10 TE of all time). Then take your pick after that…unfortunately Luke didn’t play an extra season or 2 or he’d be a lock.

Could be up to 5 from that group, just depends on how the votes go.

6 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s any chance that if they won the SB they would fire their OC

That sums up the state of this board. You're more worried about them firing Patullo than winning another SB. Sorry, if they win the SB this year I'm not all that worried about Patullo and I'm no fan of his.

39 minutes ago, erformc said:

These next 2 off-seasons are going to be very interesting in terms of which defensive players you keep. The potential puzzle piece combos are going to be fascinating. Each move causes domino effects. So you have to look at it in terms of priorities. How would you rank them (I have no idea because of the various permutations). These aren't my rankings, just food for thought...
2025 offseason decisions
- According to Overthecap.com they currently have about $31M in cap space in 2026 (or which $11M is "rollover from this year). However, from that subtract the following:
$5M - rookie pool (which could change of course with draft pick trades).

$5M - practice squad
$4M - in-season "cushion"
That leaves you with $17M.
However, they will surely cut Michael Carter, which saves $9M. There are no other obvious cuts that leave you with significant savings. There are also no cap savings to be had with restructures as all high paid veterans are already on minimum salaries and getting big option bonuses that are already prorated over 5 years for cap purposes.
So that leaves $26M in cap space.

With those cap restrictions, and keeping in mind that you are going to have to make decisions to extend Coop, Q, Hunt and Nolan Smith in the 2026 offseason, you likely are only going to be able to resign/extend 2 of the following 5 players. If you don't extend Jalen Carter, you could possibly get 3 of them.

• Jalen Carter. A potential cornerstone that you can build around. But also a guy that could bring you a massive draft haul to rebuild the aging offensive core and allows you to keep more of your defensive pieces. Questions are durability and maturity. Best comp: Chris Jones.
  Likely contract: 5 yrs/$150M (Practical 3/$100M).
  Can be done w/ cap hits of $11.2M, $14.6M and $19.3M from 2026-28.
  

• Jordan Davis. Made the leap to difference maker. Can he improve as pass rusher and be as good w/o Carter next to him? Best comps: Christian Barrmore, Nmandi Madibuike.
  Likely extension: 4/$99M (Practical 3/$63M, of which $51M is "new" money).
  Cap numbers: $6.3M in 2026 (savings of ~6.5M), $10.2M in 2027 & $13.3M in 2028).
  

• Jaelen Phillips. Fits great but has an injury history. Signing him basically guarantees that either Smith or Hunt leave after 2027. Best comps: George Karlaftis, Greg Rousseau.
  Likely extension: 4/$90M (Practical 3/$57M).
  Cap hits: $5.9, $9.4M and $12M from 2026-28.
  

• Moro Ojomo: Can thrive next to Carter or Davis. Only question is would he sign an extension now after seeing Milton Williams break the bank last year after exploding in his 4th year? His price is only going up. Comps (today): Tershawn Wharton, Javon Kinlaw.
  Likely extension 4/$60M (Practical 3/$45M)
  Cap hits: $5.2M, $7.7M, $9.7M from 26-28
  

• Nakobe Dean: Issue is durability. Also causes Jihaad Campbell to sit another year till Baun leaves after 2026. Comps: Ernest Jones, Jordyn Brooks.
  Likely contract: 3/$25M (Practical 2/$18M)
  Cap hits: $3.2M, $4.5M in 26&27

  
  2026 offseason decisions
  - Resigning Coop and Q are the top priorities. Locking up Hunt a year early should also be on the table. They can let Nolan Smith play another year on the rookie deal. Of course, if they let Phillips go, you could see them try to extend him as well.
  - This is going to be the offseason there is likely to be massive changes on offense. The rising salary cap numbers for the young defenders they resign in 2026 is likely going to result in them having to part ways with older, higher salaried offensive players. Even without that, their veteran contracts were written in a way that the 2026 offseason was the "decision point" year . Cutting and/or trading any of the following players after 6/1 results in significant cap savings (those that aren't cut can be renegotiated to lower their cap numbers):
  AJ
  Saquon
  Lane
  Mailata
  Dickerson
  Smitty
  Baun

  - Given the wealth of other talent of defense, and the need to replace many of these veteran guys with young, cost controlled players are the reasons I have a suspicion that the team could be looking at Jalen Carter as having as much value as potential trade bait as they do as a player.
  - Hurts's contract was also written for this to be the year for them either to cut him or, as is almost certain, renegotiate an extension that lowers his $43M 2026 cap number.

  
  

I don't know how soon you can sign Cooper and Mitchell but it should happen asap. We've seen enough

Carter is interesting as this was supposed to be his contract breakout year but his production went down and he was injured. Howie still has a habit of signing players based on potential so I still expect that mega deal for him

Phillips was dinged up in the game wasn't he but he came back? He could be one of those 'he's great when he's healthy' for us. Rather pay someone healthy

Davis tank seems sporadic. He had those good games in the beginning in the year and then disappeared and then showed up again. I'm off the wagon and back to moving on

We signed enough players just on Oline that have injury problems. I'd rather not do it everywhere

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That sums up the state of this board. You're more worried about them firing Patullo than winning another SB. Sorry, if they win the SB this year I'm not all that worried about Patullo and I'm no fan of his.

I was saying it was unfortunate for the guy I was quoting, not for me. If they go back to back he can have a statue next to Foles for all I care.

4 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

That sums up the state of this board. You're more worried about them firing Patullo than winning another SB. Sorry, if they win the SB this year I'm not all that worried about Patullo and I'm no fan of his.

I'd put money on it that it'd be the defense again of why they win the SB

13 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

Unfortunately I don’t think there’s any chance that if they won the SB they would fire their OC

True story once fired TO as my HC of my madden franchise after we won a Super Bowl. Cause i had to step in and play games instead of simulating games when we fell to 2-5

18 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Even if they win the SB, moving on from Patullo this offseason has to be a top priority. The seat is just too big for him.

If they win the SB that probably means the offense came to life somewhat.

I cant see the Eagles winning it all while scoring less than 20 a game.

19 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Even if they win the SB, moving on from Patullo this offseason has to be a top priority. The seat is just too big for him.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd put money on it that it'd be the defense again of why they win the SB

That's obviously a good bet. But at that point the most important thing is being Champions again.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

That's obviously a good bet. But at that point the most important thing is being Champions again.

Absolutely but if the offense can't put together anything meaningful then should it be ignored just because the defense won the game?

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd put money on it that it'd be the defense again of why they win the SB

Fine with me. I dont care if they win every playoff game 3-0. I'll take another SB if we have to go the route of the 2000 Ravens.

Dont see it happening but I'll still take it.

It's like the kid in the group project that didn't do anything but got an A because the others did all the work

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Absolutely but if the offense can't put together anything meaningful then should it be ignored just because the defense won the game?

That would be a great problem to have. The bigger likelihood is that it happens earlier than the SB. They made a bad choice at OC. That's very clear.

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Absolutely but if the offense can't put together anything meaningful then should it be ignored just because the defense won the game?

I dont think the offense will be ignored in the offseason even if they win a SB. There will still be changes.

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

If they win the SB that probably means the offense came to life somewhat.

I cant see the Eagles winning it all while scoring less than 20 a game.

Agree to disagree. If they win, it’s gonna look a lot like the Bills and Lions games. They’d win in spite of him.

4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's like the kid in the group project that didn't do anything but got an A because the others did all the work

Yep, good comparison. You don’t keep the kid in the group for the next one. Congratulate him on the A, be happy about it, and get him to go away.

59 minutes ago, erformc said:

These next 2 off-seasons are going to be very interesting in terms of which defensive players you keep. The potential puzzle piece combos are going to be fascinating. Each move causes domino effects. So you have to look at it in terms of priorities. How would you rank them (I have no idea because of the various permutations). These aren't my rankings, just food for thought...
2025 offseason decisions
- According to Overthecap.com they currently have about $31M in cap space in 2026 (or which $11M is "rollover from this year). However, from that subtract the following:
$5M - rookie pool (which could change of course with draft pick trades).

$5M - practice squad
$4M - in-season "cushion"
That leaves you with $17M.
However, they will surely cut Michael Carter, which saves $9M. There are no other obvious cuts that leave you with significant savings. There are also no cap savings to be had with restructures as all high paid veterans are already on minimum salaries and getting big option bonuses that are already prorated over 5 years for cap purposes.
So that leaves $26M in cap space.

With those cap restrictions, and keeping in mind that you are going to have to make decisions to extend Coop, Q, Hunt and Nolan Smith in the 2026 offseason, you likely are only going to be able to resign/extend 2 of the following 5 players. If you don't extend Jalen Carter, you could possibly get 3 of them.

• Jalen Carter. A potential cornerstone that you can build around. But also a guy that could bring you a massive draft haul to rebuild the aging offensive core and allows you to keep more of your defensive pieces. Questions are durability and maturity. Best comp: Chris Jones.
  Likely contract: 5 yrs/$150M (Practical 3/$100M).
  Can be done w/ cap hits of $11.2M, $14.6M and $19.3M from 2026-28.
  

• Jordan Davis. Made the leap to difference maker. Can he improve as pass rusher and be as good w/o Carter next to him? Best comps: Christian Barrmore, Nmandi Madibuike.
  Likely extension: 4/$99M (Practical 3/$63M, of which $51M is "new" money).
  Cap numbers: $6.3M in 2026 (savings of ~6.5M), $10.2M in 2027 & $13.3M in 2028).
  

• Jaelen Phillips. Fits great but has an injury history. Signing him basically guarantees that either Smith or Hunt leave after 2027. Best comps: George Karlaftis, Greg Rousseau.
  Likely extension: 4/$90M (Practical 3/$57M).
  Cap hits: $5.9, $9.4M and $12M from 2026-28.
  

• Moro Ojomo: Can thrive next to Carter or Davis. Only question is would he sign an extension now after seeing Milton Williams break the bank last year after exploding in his 4th year? His price is only going up. Comps (today): Tershawn Wharton, Javon Kinlaw.
  Likely extension 4/$60M (Practical 3/$45M)
  Cap hits: $5.2M, $7.7M, $9.7M from 26-28
  

• Nakobe Dean: Issue is durability. Also causes Jihaad Campbell to sit another year till Baun leaves after 2026. Comps: Ernest Jones, Jordyn Brooks.
  Likely contract: 3/$25M (Practical 2/$18M)
  Cap hits: $3.2M, $4.5M in 26&27

  
  2026 offseason decisions
  - Resigning Coop and Q are the top priorities. Locking up Hunt a year early should also be on the table. They can let Nolan Smith play another year on the rookie deal. Of course, if they let Phillips go, you could see them try to extend him as well.
  - This is going to be the offseason there is likely to be massive changes on offense. The rising salary cap numbers for the young defenders they resign in 2026 is likely going to result in them having to part ways with older, higher salaried offensive players. Even without that, their veteran contracts were written in a way that the 2026 offseason was the "decision point" year . Cutting and/or trading any of the following players after 6/1 results in significant cap savings (those that aren't cut can be renegotiated to lower their cap numbers):
  AJ
  Saquon
  Lane
  Mailata
  Dickerson
  Smitty
  Baun

  - Given the wealth of other talent of defense, and the need to replace many of these veteran guys with young, cost controlled players are the reasons I have a suspicion that the team could be looking at Jalen Carter as having as much value as potential trade bait as they do as a player.
  - Hurts's contract was also written for this to be the year for them either to cut him or, as is almost certain, renegotiate an extension that lowers his $43M 2026 cap number.

  
  

I haven’t looked fully into things and don’t understand them that well but I saw Dallas G cost us I think it’s somewhere around 20 million in cap space next could that be spread out if we resign him to a new contract?

Hughlett made it to to the PS

Still don't get that risk over Aj Dillon. And PS elevations in the post season are open so Sam could have come up. Not sure what was so important to risk not having a LS even if it was a small risk.

4 hours ago, vikas83 said:

I really think the national media has missed the boat on how well our secondary has been playing.

The ones I have watched are pretty up on how well our secondary plays but they totally miss on the run defense. Yes, we give up some yards but very much by design. Things are a little skewed due to the Bears game as well.

We've all seen it. If things get a bit out of hand we go to the five man line and that sorts out the problem. We used the five a bunch against Buffalo and the Bills couldn't generate anything of any significance on the ground when we did so.