8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So who drafted safeties this weekend and might have vets available to us?

Browns

46 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Eagles will probably trade for a safety. The two names most whispered in trade talks have been Grant Delpit and Justin Reid. I'll be honest I don't love giving up picks for short term replacements, I'd hope it could be a player swap.

Who is whispering about that?

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

My question is, with the Greenard signing, and impending cap hit from an AJ trade, how much money do we actually have left for acquisitions now, and in the season?

Pretty sure AJ is an 8 million dollar cap hit post June 1, and I don't know the exact cap numbers on Greenard.

Maybe Budda is too expensive in terms of money and trade compensation. But Reid, Delpit should be more manageable. Unsure what it would take for Bates and his contract isn't cheap.

I think our WR room is plenty deep as is. I'd be out on Boutte because it's definitely going to lessen the picks back like you had mentioned. We're already down a 3 & 5 for next year.

Smith, Lemon, Wicks, Hollywood, Cooper is good enough. Wilson will be here for camp. They'll be some others thrown in camp as well, maybe some UDFA's. If we didn't sign Hollywood I'd be more onboard for Boutte.

Woodson makes a lot of sense especially considering the contract status. I would like all 4 of the names mentioned much more over him but the contract would be a big asset for us considering our financial situation going forward. And he was a rook last year, I'd assume he does get better.

I just hope we get a 2027 first for AJ and not a 2028, that would be disappointing for me.

59 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A big if…..Morris has the athleticism to be a starter at G. But his technique has some real flaws. He plays high. Probably related to his build but his hands tend to slip outside. That can be cured with repetition and practice but that was a comment I saw about him a lot, that he isn’t a practice devotee. That and his position limitation to G lead to his Day 3 status. So athletic testing suggests a starter level G, technique suggests a JAG.

That kind of defines Day 3 for the Birds. Most of the selections were uber level athletes with technical flaws. Put on tape of James-Newby and he looks like a flag football DE. Really needs refinement especially at tackling fundamentals and setting an edge.

Bernard needs to learn the game. But his athleticism (and Weru’s) sure suggests possibilities.

Wisneiwski is a tweener. He is 5-6 lbs lighter than Baun, Trot Jr. and Mondon. Howie talked about Reed at the presser as a comp. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vic views his potential kind of like he saw for Baun at some point. His measurables are mediocre as a S but damn good for an ILB. I may be off the mark, but we’ll see how this plays out.

The UDFA class is a bit underwhelming. Surprised at the LS selection. Last I saw, the PSU and Georgia LSs weren’t signed. Best signees are probably the Alabama kids.

4 hours ago, CouchKing said:

It's Howie Roseman Time!

Hope he has a good draft.

I agree. Maybe the wurst draft ever. Total baloney. What sort of hotdog made these picks?

I swear those yinzers out in Pitt are as a collective way dumber of a fan base than just about the entire league. I love reading through the comments on Allar vs Howard being must watch tv, thinking both can be super stars 🤣. For being smack dab in the middle of the school I’m not sure how they think both could be the future.

Ive also been wondering if we couldnt just announce the AJ deal already and say itll be official on June 1st.

That way, we finally get that whole story over and done with and out of the news cycle. Moving in to camps, the story will already be behind the team.

But it would be nice to revisit discussions with some other teams after the draft.

The Ravens drafted 2 crappy WRs. They obviously wanted to address the position. Are they happy with it after the draft?

Buffalo has a terrible WR corps and only got Skyler Bell.

Is Houston interested in a swap for Nico Collins?

Is Jackson interested in a swap for Brian Thomas?

Would Andy like a WR for Mahomes? Probably not.

Are the Rams going to be interested again after the draft? They are not going to re-sign Adams after this year and only drafted CJ Daniels.

Would the Raiders like a single WR?

The Dolphins are not happy with their WR room. They drafted 3. And Waddle was in trade rumors. Would they love Chris Bell to learn from AJ Brown? Waddle is a great fit here now.

Would Pittsburgh like a WR? They wanted Lemon. Ended up with Germie Bernard and Wetjen. Brown would clearly upgrade that room.

A big if…..Morris has the athleticism to be a starter at G. But his technique has some real flaws. He plays high. Probably related to his build but his hands tend to slip outside. That can be cured with repetition and practice but that was a comment I saw about him a lot, that he isn’t a practice devotee. That and his position limitation to G lead to his Day 3 status. So athletic testing suggests a starter level G, technique suggests a JAG.

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

That kind of defines Day 3 for the Birds. Most of the selections were uber level athletes with technical flaws. Put on tape of James-Newby and he looks like a flag football DE. Really needs refinement especially at tackling fundamentals and setting an edge.

Bernard needs to learn the game. But his athleticism (and Weru’s) sure suggests possibilities.

Wisneiwski is a tweener. He is 5-6 lbs lighter than Baun, Trot Jr. and Mondon. Howie talked about Reed at the presser as a comp. I wouldn’t be surprised if Vic views his potential kind of like he saw for Baun at some point. His measurables are mediocre as a S but damn good for an ILB. I may be off the mark, but we’ll see how this plays out.

The UDFA class is a bit underwhelming. Surprised at the LS selection. Last I saw, the PSU and Georgia LSs weren’t signed. Best signees are probably the Alabama kids.

PSU LS was signed last night. I dont remember about the Georgia LS because I wasnt looking for it.

UDFAs are a bit underwhelming. Wright and Roberts are nice. Thats it. Large may have just been brought in as a return specialist but that could be interesting.

The rest, no interest.

Waddle was traded to Denver a month ago

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

I think the NFC East had good drafts unfortunately.

As they better. They have been pretty much drafting up high for years, so at some point they'll accumulate some good players.

Good for them. I want the NFCE to be as competitive as possible. Makes for a fun football season. 🏈🦅

Two black holes on roster. Safety (both positions, but will take one proven vet here) & kicker. Are they good enough to survive both flaws to win a Superbowl? Gonna say no. Don't see Elliott finishing the year here. Epps is not a starter and gets injured and worn down. Makuba is small and coming back from a significant injury. Howie can't treat those positions like CB2 & Edge last year hoping for the best. They will bite him in the ass before it's over, if no bullet proofing done there. Still have time of course.

53 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

So who drafted safeties this weekend and might have vets available to us?

49 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Who is whispering about that?

People who cover the team have thrown those names out as possibilities.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Jets I believe for 330k.

I can’t find that anywhere. I think he’s still unclaimed

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Saw some rumblings about that on social media yesterday. I forget where.

I jokingly mentioned it in the blog yesterday that Woodson would be a part of the AJ trade. Must have caught the attention of social media. Glad I'm finally being taking seriously.

18 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Two black holes on roster. Safety (both positions, but will take one proven vet here) & kicker. Are they good enough to survive both flaws to win a Superbowl? Gonna say no. Don't see Elliott finishing the year here. Epps is not a starter and gets injured and worn down. Makuba is small and coming back from a significant injury. Howie can't treat those positions like CB2 & Edge last year hoping for the best. They will bite him in the ass before it's over, if no bullet proofing done there. Still have time of course.

They aren't completely overhauling the offense and realistically competing for a SB in the same year. If you actually think they might win a SB next year, safety and kicker are the least of the concerns.

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Imagine how much further to the right they'd be if not for the first round pick.

None of you will believe me, but I really, really do want Lemon to be a success.

I just feel like I'm seeing the same movie playing as when JJAW was drafted (and a million other Eagle WR draft busts, but specifically JJAW). Back then, Michael Thomas was all the rage. JJAW (also very productive in Oregons legacy conference) was relentlessly compared to Michael Thomas, mostly on the grounds of a shared lack of explosion. I feel Lemon is JSN and Aman-Ra's JJAW. Granted, it would be tough to tank as hard as JJAW did, but there are many levels of disappointment. Just feels like hopping on a trendy prototype and going for the imitation. That's not normally Howie's style and it's not how he does it when he is successful.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Imagine how much further to the right they'd be if not for the first round pick.

Imagine how much closer to the bottom they'd be if not for the first round pick.

13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They aren't completely overhauling the offense and realistically competing for a SB in the same year. If you actually think they might win a SB next year, safety and kicker are the least of the concerns.

Seahawks overhauled on offense quite a bit if I recall correctly. Still have a lot of the same talents that were on the Superbowl roster just 15 months ago. And yes safety was a quiet issue last year and sprung up in the playoffs. Same for K. Elliott is washed and will cost you games such as 49er game. Very concerning. Howie has reloaded in many weak spots, but still has work to do. Love the WR upgrades to the group. Like the offseason so far. I don't see anyone running away with anything in NFC right now.

13 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Imagine how much closer to the bottom they'd be if not for the first round pick.

Does Uar just have a "0" production score? How do you even adjust for that

Here's a question for everyone....

We know Wicks was generally added to be a placeholder in this offense (the guy sucks so I certainly hope so), as was Hollywood Brown (may be my type of WR with the speed, but he generally underwhelms too and has been a disappointment).

If we are thinking of the future pass catchers in this offense as Smith, Lemon, and Stowers....do we really need to pigeon hole and congest the lineup as Smith (Z), Wicks (X), Lemon (slot), Stowers (TE)?? You really want your TE to be the fastest pass catcher on the team?

Long-term, prototypical X wrs are expensive. Short term, Wicks sucks. Despite his frame, Devonta Smith is one of the most complete receivers in the NFL who is facile with every twig of a redwood sized route tree. I'd like to see him line up there occasionally with Stowers occasionally doing the same when a larger body is called upon...and use Hollywood Brown as the Z (and upgrade him with a similar WR when the time comes).

I think that gives you a far more dangerous and dynamic foundation of pass catchers. Smith has no trouble beating press coverage with mechanics and quickness. He's probably more of a weapon migrating between X and Z (and the slot) and Stowers is probably more of a weapon migrating between slot/X/in-line. My all time favorite pick Lemon handles the slot, and then it's easier to just find a Hollywood replacement in a year.

I think that decongests the offense. Lemon/Smith/Wicks and a couple TE's could have us seeing shades of 2018-2020.