June 3Jun 3 15 minutes ago, NOTW said:Time to finally find out if he was always just a product of Stoutland or if he is actually good.
June 3Jun 3 9 hours ago, NCiggles said:The Eagles used motion in the offense more in 2024:They used motion less in 2025:I also think they did not really use motion as a way to create leverage for receiver or to force defenses to reveal coverages. I think 90% of the motion was performative and pointless.We were under center more in 2025 than 2024. It's always the Jalen Hurts offense with a slight change here and there. We had a better offense in 2022 (5.9 yards per play) than we had in 2024 (5.6 yards per play) and that was with Miles Sanders. My argument is that if the players had executed better, the plays still could have worked better as designed. We couldn't even execute our bread and butter play consistently last season --- not because defenses were better, but because our line struggled with bad execution. I'm waiting to see what our offense looks like this year. If there are significant changes in philosophy, this will be the 1st time in the Jalen Hurts era. Nothing is going to work, though, if the execution is at the same level as last season. Fortunately, I know these players can play better. My expectations are still high.
June 3Jun 3 35 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:You would take Sally Fields as the Flying Nun over Hurts.I’d take her in Mrs Doubtfire for sure.You can try to paint me as a hater, but I’ve always been fair to Hurts. I don’t think he suck’s like Hazleton. I also don’t think he’s great like the homers. The way he’s played the last 3 years I’d probably rank him between 12-15th in the NFL. With potential for a bit higher if he decides to run again.
June 3Jun 3 7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:Time to finally find out if he was always just a product of Stoutland or if he is actually good.Let's say, for the sake of argument, he's a product of Stoutland --- It's not like he's going to all of a sudden not know anything. He's not a Battle Bot. It's pretty safe to say Lane has had a great career and Stoutland was a big part of his growth. Lane will still be a top RT this season.
June 3Jun 3 1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:Brodes really is the best that WIP has to offer these days.I was so happy to hear him say what he did. The way that loser pulled the wool over so many people's eyes and manipulated them is infuriating. AJ Brown is about as big of a phony as there is.
June 3Jun 3 What happened to the offseason surgery for Lane Johnson's lisfanc sprain that I kept hearing about in here?
June 4Jun 4 2 minutes ago, T-1000 said:I was so happy to hear him say what he did. The way that loser pulled the wool over so many people's eyes and manipulated them is infuriating. AJ Brown is about as big of a phony as there is.The truth always comes out. I have other theories about his exodus, besides he's just lost a step and it would-be smart to trade him before he's worth nothing next offseason. The dude had jealousy issues with Hurts. When he first came Hurts was on his first contract making peanuts. Then once Hurts got paid he was making much more than Brown. I'm thinking his mental illness got to him there that Hurts was top dog and the top alpha in the room. And the other factor, just really the personal shady stuff and to get away from it all as that was a ticking time bomb, as he's now married and more serious. He kinda just wanted to run away from all of that.And first and foremost, the guaranteed money. He knew he wasn't getting that here for 2027 or 2028. So he checked out as soon as that was apparent to him and his agent. I expect him to work all that out with Patriots before the season starts or he's gonna mail it in like last season. I don't think his unhappiness has anything to do with his play on the field and certainly doesn't care much about winning. AJ loves him some AJ and is the drama queen who needs to be the center of attention and yes is the master manipulator.
June 4Jun 4 It just shows how these millenials compare to past generations.Back in the day TO totally destroyed a season and was doing pushups in the the driveway as soon as he was disgruntled with the QB and wanted more money.Now AJ sulks for a couple of years while they win a SB and is only reading self-help books on the sideline. SOFT!
June 4Jun 4 54 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:I’d take her in Mrs Doubtfire for sure.You can try to paint me as a hater, but I’ve always been fair to Hurts. I don’t think he suck’s like Hazleton. I also don’t think he’s great like the homers. The way he’s played the last 3 years I’d probably rank him between 12-15th in the NFL. With potential for a bit higher if he decides to run again.I ain't a painter, just having fun.
June 4Jun 4 Mannion has to be genuinely great to get a big time season out of Hurts. And the OL has to stay intact. And our target 2 in the passing game has to be legit. A lot to ask.
June 4Jun 4 Rewatchd the highlights of the 2nd Eagles-Giants game when AJ was out. The offense operated so much more smoothly.
June 4Jun 4 I think the worst case scenario this season is we end up with the Packers offense. Do a lot of cool things, good nerd stats, marginally improved #s for Hurts, but we’re actually bad, scare no one, and we’re stuck with it. I either want an explosion or a trainwreck.
June 4Jun 4 7 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:I think the worst case scenario this season is we end up with the Packers offense. Do a lot of cool things, good nerd stats, marginally improved #s for Hurts, but we’re actually bad, scare no one, and we’re stuck with it. I either want an explosion or a trainwreck.Packers had a top 5 offense last year.https://sumersports.com/teams/offensive/
June 4Jun 4 9 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:I think the worst case scenario this season is we end up with the Packers offense. Do a lot of cool things, good nerd stats, marginally improved #s for Hurts, but we’re actually bad, scare no one, and we’re stuck with it. I either want an explosion or a trainwreck.They don't need to scare people on offense in order to contend. Just have a top 10 offense to go along with what should be a top 1-5 defense. They had a top 10 offense 2022-24. A worse offense last year than they had in 2021, both by yards and points.
June 4Jun 4 26 minutes ago, RLC said:Packers had a top 5 offense last year.https://sumersports.com/teams/offensive/You’re proving his point
June 4Jun 4 People act like football is some insanely complex science. When the coaching hasn't been bottom 3 in the league, Hurts has played championship level football.
June 4Jun 4 I think one of the funnier things about AJ Brown is him saying he’s just going to show up, work hard and let the chips fall where they may.
June 4Jun 4 I hope all summer in 11 on 11 that Mannion is calling plays against Fangio and vis versa. I also hope they meet regularly to discuss what each sees as areas they need to address. Vic strikes me as a pretty straight shooter. He won’t give his secrets away but that isn’t what he would be doing. Basically each critiquing each other. Sharpen the saw.
June 4Jun 4 Thinking back to that 2021 offense. Good OC but no AJ. 12th in points and 14th in yards. Last year with AJ but worst OC in league and for the Eagles this century, 19th in points and 24th in yards.So if Mannion turns out to live up to the hype and is goos then we should be hoping for at least as good of results as that 12th in points/14th in yards 2021 offense without AJ but a good OC. Talent wise I think we should reasonably expect this to be a top 10 offense.2026 vs 2021Hurts 2026 > Hurts 2021Oline 2026 < Oline 2021DeVonta 2026, Wicks, Hollywood, Lemon, Cooper > DeVonta 2021, Ward, Reagor, Quez, JJAWBarkley & Tank > Miles and Kenny GGoedert 2026 & Stowers < Goedert 2021 & ErtzMannion ? Steichen
June 4Jun 4 21 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:She is apparently fluent in jalen-ism quotesYea but it’s kinda obvious she’s saying it’s BS
June 4Jun 4 Can anyone recall any other player off the top of their head in NFL history ever asked to be traded that didn’t have a personal beef with the coaches or ownership or front office or contractual beef, was playing at an elite level and winning championships with his current team?I can’t think of one.
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