June 3Jun 3 How fast are peeps gonna turn on AJ when times get rough in New England? If he thinks the pressure was high last year to repeat, it will be just as bad in New England this year. Kinda think this will be a short honeymoon period. Don't think this story will fade any time soon. Vrabel & AJ will make for some good drama this year and certainly be the butt of many jokes on social media. I'm here for it! 🍿
June 3Jun 3 19 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:I was told in here that AJ Brown was popular in the locker room. 😅 Can see more of this trend of him being bashed over the next few weeks. Think the locker room was over this diva. T
June 3Jun 3 On 6/2/2026 at 9:06 AM, Mike030270 said:Just quoting to make it easier to find after the seasonDo I get to quote this every time AJ sends some passive aggressive tweet or decides to get manhandled by some mid level CB for a couple games?
June 3Jun 3 16 minutes ago, NOTW said:He’ll at least be happy when he sees a better paycheck due to less taxes
June 3Jun 3 1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:He’ll at least be happy when he sees a better paycheck due to less taxesThe selling point to coming to the Browns lol
June 3Jun 3 6 hours ago, NCiggles said:Patullo was a big part of the problem but not all of it. The Eagles did not execute well last year. Hurts has preferences as a QB that became more ingrained as limitations last season. He also stopped running the ball and there were very few QB designed runs. I think the injuries to the O-line played a big part of the problem. I also think Sirianni's risk averse approach to turnovers made them to conservative. It's also not like they won the Super Bowl with a super efficient and effective passing offense in 2024. The Eagles were 2-2 heading into the bye week. They only just eked out a win in NO. They could have easily been 1-3. After the bye, the shift was to being a running team. They had 6 games of more than 200 yards rushing and 6 of more than 200 yards passing after the bye in 2024. They had one game of over 300 yards passing and one game of over 300 yards rushing. They had 2 games of less than 100 yards passing and the only one where they had less than a 100 yards rushing was the last game of the regular season where the starters did not play. The team was not an offensive juggernaut in 2024 in the passing game that became suddenly worse. They were unstoppable in the run game in 2024. When the offense could not run the ball effectively in 2025, the passing attack was not enough to make the offense successful. I agree that Patullo and Sirianni could not fix the offense from a scheme perspective. I disagree that it was entirely on them. Hurts did not have a good season.I suspect Nick isn’t solely responsible for the conservative approach. I think some of that must fall in Howie’s lap because he is responsible for the analytics team. Absolutely, the metrics support the fact that throwing shorter routes over the middle leads to more turnovers. Hurts shares some of the blame because he doesn’t process as fast as some other QBs and, of course, we have the three turnover game. But part of that lays with Nick too because he has consistently had delay in having the play in. I believe he slows down what the OC presents needing Nick’s input. I think Jeff, Howie and he sat down for performance review and he was told, "your offense is stale and has become predictable”. I strongly suspect he responded to Howie that part of that lies with over reliance on analytics. I suspect the changes in the offense were jointly agreed with at that time and Patullo (who I was railing against when he was pass coordinator) had to go. I think they sat down with Hurts during the end of the year review and had a frank discussion that his reluctance in some areas had to change. He may have offered feedback on how long it took for plays to come in and needing to understand the why. (Not only does he have a new OC every year, he also has a new QB coach. I think that is why we see bits about Mannion explaining the "why”. When Hurts understands the "why”, he thrives. That is why Mannion was hired.I believe the Brotherly Shove was overused in 2024 and that wore down Hurts and the OL. Saquon was worn down too. The passing game struggled with the handcuffs and frankly awful sequencing. Hurts understands that like AJ, he is coming on a contractual crossroads decision. He’s had some good coaches (Saban, kind of because his real genius is D), but on offense, Streichen, Riley, Moore, and some poor ones. I really think Mannion is going to give us some Riley type section approaches (like Mike Leach’s) where when he looks right he sees multiple players, middle, left same sort of thing.I am not sure Nick didn’t embrace his new parameters. He seems willing. But I suspect that they did remind him of what the nicest coach I ever met said
June 3Jun 3 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:Do I get to quote this every time AJ sends some passive aggressive tweet or decides to get manhandled by some mid level CB for a couple games?He deactivated his account months ago so go ahead with that logic
June 3Jun 3 Former NFL QB calls out Eagles’ Jalen Hurts after AJ Brown trade"“[Hurts] has got to learn how to play quarterback in a completely different way,” Orlovsky said on the "Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday. “… It’s been (shotgun) and RPO. Now he’s going to have a much more wordier offense, break the huddle, and go under center. It’s just very different. “… You have to play on time in this offense, and your feet tell you when and where to throw the football. That just takes a while to master. I’m not betting against him, it’s just going to be very different for him. Totally different, completely different experience.”Why do people think he's going to be able to master any of this? I'm genuinely curious.
June 3Jun 3 42 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:He’ll at least be happy when he sees a better paycheck due to less taxesBut he has to live in Ohio
June 3Jun 3 8 minutes ago, hputenis said:Former NFL QB calls out Eagles’ Jalen Hurts after AJ Brown trade"“[Hurts] has got to learn how to play quarterback in a completely different way,” Orlovsky said on the "Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday. “… It’s been (shotgun) and RPO. Now he’s going to have a much more wordier offense, break the huddle, and go under center. It’s just very different. “… You have to play on time in this offense, and your feet tell you when and where to throw the football. That just takes a while to master. I’m not betting against him, it’s just going to be very different for him. Totally different, completely different experience.”Why do people think he's going to be able to master any of this? I'm genuinely curious.Well, hopefully he doesn't walk out of the back of his own end zone like Orlovsky did.
June 3Jun 3 5 hours ago, NOTW said:Jordan Mailata on differences in the new offense: it's bloody beautifulwe have answers to a lot of the things in the run game nowwe've cleared up the confusion on who's blocking whopass game for O line a lot simpleradding in deception, motion, responsibilities for receivers in the run gameYesterday he said Mannion is an evil genius, the smartest person in the building. Now he's saying he's providing answers and clearing up confusion.Mailata is going to Beast in outside zone.
June 3Jun 3 9 minutes ago, hputenis said:Former NFL QB calls out Eagles’ Jalen Hurts after AJ Brown trade"“[Hurts] has got to learn how to play quarterback in a completely different way,” Orlovsky said on the "Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday. “… It’s been (shotgun) and RPO. Now he’s going to have a much more wordier offense, break the huddle, and go under center. It’s just very different. “… You have to play on time in this offense, and your feet tell you when and where to throw the football. That just takes a while to master. I’m not betting against him, it’s just going to be very different for him. Totally different, completely different experience.”Why do people think he's going to be able to master any of this? I'm genuinely curious.He's been effective from under center. Marrying the run game with passing concepts should make both more effective. The McVay and Shanahan systems have made so-so QBs look good because there are passing concepts with easy answers.
June 3Jun 3 43 minutes ago, hputenis said:Former NFL QB calls out Eagles’ Jalen Hurts after AJ Brown trade"“[Hurts] has got to learn how to play quarterback in a completely different way,” Orlovsky said on the "Pat McAfee Show” on Tuesday. “… It’s been (shotgun) and RPO. Now he’s going to have a much more wordier offense, break the huddle, and go under center. It’s just very different. “… You have to play on time in this offense, and your feet tell you when and where to throw the football. That just takes a while to master. I’m not betting against him, it’s just going to be very different for him. Totally different, completely different experience.”Why do people think he's going to be able to master any of this? I'm genuinely curious.His stats are actually better under center than shotgun, albeit a small sample size. When under center his passer rating is 100.2, shotgun is 94.2. Although his completion percentage is lower and his YPA is also higher, likely due to them using play action for deep passes out of center (I'm guessing, that gets beyond my knowledge). I know there were specific games people cited last year where they ran more under center and he played much better. Last year a lot of people also pointed out the horrible WR routes, play design and calls by Patullo that did not open anything up. Coaching matters. Hurts has to prove he can learn the new offense and execute it effectively. And now there's also new O line blocking, WR routes, everything will change. A lot to evaluate.
June 3Jun 3 Just placed another Jalen Hurts MVP bet and the odds have actually shifted down from +3500 when I first bet a month ago to now +3300 after the AJ Brown trade. Clearly some big money also sees the season we are about to see for those odds to shift in that direction after the trade.
June 3Jun 3 14 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:Brodes really is the best that WIP has to offer these days.He had his perfect passer rating game last year when he was mostly under center and then KP completely abandoned that going forward after that. Just like the week after that when Tank Bigsby had a huge game against the Giants and then KP completely abandoned ever using him in any significant way again going forward after that.
June 3Jun 3 5 hours ago, Sack that QB said:I was watching Brown 2022 and 2023 highlights the other day and he unquestionably looks more explosive. Hard to tell how much of that is the knee or if he just bulked up too much, dude is built like a tank. Probably a bit of both. Still, he dropped about 200 yards worth of passes in 2025 which would still put him in the elite category. I think he will have a good year or two with the Patriots the question is how good.People clown Maye for his awful playoffs and he deserves it, but I'd take him 100 times out of 100 over Hurts for the next 5 years.You would take Sally Fields as the Flying Nun over Hurts.
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