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A big reason the Eagles had the success they did between 2022 and 2025 is they crushed about 4 drafts in a row and not only crushed them but they had immediate big impact guys. I don't know how good these past two drafts will end up being but at the very least, I don't think we got immediate big impact guys like we did those previous drafts.

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9 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

I think they can get him through waivers tho him playing on ST was interesting. Maybe they see a specialty role for him.

It honestly feels like they don’t care about these games at all except to get a few guys used to contact a bit

I think in one of the PCs they pretty much said they like the joint practices the most

35 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

A big reason the Eagles had the success they did between 2022 and 2025 is they crushed about 4 drafts in a row and not only crushed them but they had immediate big impact guys. I don't know how good these past two drafts will end up being but at the very least, I don't think we got immediate big impact guys like we did those previous drafts.

IMO, Howie is the best GM in the nfl, but you can’t nail every draft.

Look at 2025. We were used to every draft producing multiple instant starters. They had their first and second round picks starting at the beginning of the year. By the end of the year both were out of the lineup. Mukuba was due to injury but I’d argue his replacement was actually better.

That draft just wasn’t ready to perform as rookies. It happens. This draft definitely isn’t going to offer much from the rookies. I’d wager their best play is going to come from Bell at RT when he has to fill in.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

To be fair, I thought this immediately after the draft too. I think Concepcion is gonna be really good and can play on the outside.

I’m worried Lemon is just a slot or a guy who plays in condensed formations.

Not great the Lemon muffed that punt, it’s one thing that he isn’t an immediate WR3 but it would’ve been nice if he could’ve locked down the Covey role while he gets upto speed.

51 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Eagles would have the chance to do that, in that scenario. Question is if they have an open roster spot or can feasibly make one and if it’s worth it

Good point - goes both ways.

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Not great the Lemon muffed that punt, it’s one thing that he isn’t an immediate WR3 but it would’ve been nice if he could’ve locked down the Covey role while he gets upto speed.

I actually think he will be WR3 right away and probably still catch punts when they don't elevate Covey.

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

All those limp throws where he isn’t stepping in after the overthrows in the 1st game and the Covey miss… then he throws a quacker outside the numbers because he’s off platform, just a bad habit to get into. The bad mechanics, hesitancy and shaky decision making is rough combination.

The Covey miss was on Covey. That was a spot throw and Covey spent too much time trying to jukes the CB with his "footwork” that he didn’t get to the spot on time. I think several of both QBs throws that missed were spot/timing throws. What we don’t know is if that is on the receiver, QB or both. The Covey miss was pretty apparent as Covey doing it.

3 hours ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Fair enough - I figure if given a chance to get on a 53 somewhere, and the bump in salary they likely take it.

If the player is worth keeping Howie can fix the money difference. There is no ceiling on Practice Squad pay.

The Eagles should sign Ertz. They need as many receiving targets as they can get and he was still pretty good the past couple years.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think we can keep 2 QBs on the roster this year on the initial 53. Payton hardly played, and when he did most of it was bad. He can definitely be save on our practice squad and if we lose him, there may be better options.

That is an option to be seriously considered.

Don't want to nitpick everything and I think all will be fine but the choice to retain Moorehead and make Parks Frazier QB coach over a more experienced option both seemed odd at the time

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Just to be clear, I’m not calling Lemon a bust. I just question the upside and if he’s worthy of the draft investment, but there are plenty of smarter people than me who had Lemon as a top 15 player in the draft.

My issue at the time was fit. If we had Goff, Prescott, Purdy, etc. I'd feel better about it than Hurts.

Lemon's initial quickness last night showed up. His lack of long speed also showed up. That means you need a decisive, anticipatory thrower...

So with the talk about how pretty much everyone is confused at how the Eagles have handled the backup QB position this offseason it makes me think back to last year and how with so many things last year you were left scratching your head too. Them running AJ Dillon out there every game where the dude was running in quicksand, he couldn't even hit the holes while they were open let alone do something with the ball after that. They trade for Bigsby and it took them several weeks to figure out how to use him. Remember they had him out there trying to return kicks and it felt like every kick he touched he dropped. They could never get the offense going all season in any capacity.

I have no idea how much this QB thing is driven by Howie but over the past year it feels like a lot of things particularly on the offensive side of the ball have not been buttoned up. Just a lot of dysfunction. A coach who prides himself on "Tough, detailed, together" and they were none of those things last season. For Sirianni's sake once the regular season starts they better look a lot more buttoned up than last year and hope that the preseason is exactly that... just preseason, because if things look dysfunctional again once the games start, it's gonna reflect poorly on him.

This does feel like a throwback Eagles draft class. Pass catchers disappoint, while linemen play well.

24 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I actually think he will be WR3 right away and probably still catch punts when they don't elevate Covey.

That was the plan but he hasn’t earned any of that yet. He’s playing like a WR5 w/o the ST consistency.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Feels like they are trying to hide Payton and not showcase him to other teams to get him to the PS.

Except those other teams were scouting him just last year. Not sure there is any real hiding at this point.

4 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

That was the plan but he hasn’t earned any of that yet. He’s playing like a WR5 w/o the ST consistency.

He's practiced like 4 times in the last month and they have him on the first team in practice. I think they are willing to play him through the early learnings

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Will be a 3rd down machine.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

Will be a 3rd down machine.

Got to get in 3rd and short first.

I really wonder what the plan was there. He is pretty much what you'd expect at this point. Why pick him if you didn't intend to keep him?

52 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Not great the Lemon muffed that punt, it’s one thing that he isn’t an immediate WR3 but it would’ve been nice if he could’ve locked down the Covey role while he gets upto speed.

Why he was even out there at that point of the game was stupid.

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

Why he was even out there at that point of the game was stupid.

To get a live ST rep - but maybe more likely to get any positive momentum.

9 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Got to get in 3rd and short first.

3rd and 1? Tush push
3rd and 3? Lemon curl
3rd and 5+? Pray

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