50 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Howie seems to have a tendency of not communicating with Vic when brining in players. I don't care how good Howie is that's a flaw that needs to be corrected.

1 minute ago, vaeagle2 said:

Yeah, you don't remember the same issue last year?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Best insider in the biz

23 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

In a league that can’t develop QBs outside of like 3-4 draft classes a generation, it was cool to see Dart exceed expectations and he’s so much fun to watch. I want us to beat them because we’re better, not that all their good players get hurt.

Also at this rate, we’re getting one year of Mannion. Better make it count.

27 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Figured it wasn't the ACL, they can accurately test for them with stability tests. Figured it was either grade 3 MCL or meniscus. Looks like he'll get the meniscus repair surgery which avoids trim but has several months recovery.

Has meniscus been reported? Usually if its grade 3 MCL with meniscus that's surgery too.

My thought was PCL. You can potentially play with a torn PCL so that explains the wishy washy will we surgery or wont we?

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Howie seems to have a tendency of not communicating with Vic when brining in players. I don't care how good Howie is that's a flaw that needs to be corrected.

Or maybe what Vic said is his way of saying " I want to see him in pads first”

Its odd that the team liked Michael Carter so much, supposedly. But as soon as safety isnt looking good they go sign Moore rather than just promoting Carter.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I think Vic is trolling. Has he ever said that he DID communicate with Howie?

That is my take as well.

Through 2 games, the biggest non-OL concern on the team…I’ll beat my dead horse on this…is global talent. The nfl is a conveyor belt shaped like a bell curve and every product/player is moving on it left to right. You’ve got draft picks getting added on at the beginning, young guys ascending, free agents/trades getting placed on or plucked off around the peak, old guys descending and falling off.

And the last 4 first or second around picks…the 1st and 2nd round picks this year are not really slated to do much. (That’s fine it happens). But the first and second round picks from last year…sure, they are starting. One is playing fine (Campbell) and the other isn’t playing particularly well (Mukuba). But both represent material downgrades in the starting lineup from their predecessors. So you can do the math yourselves on the talent direction when you have two 1st and two 2nd round picks over 2 years that, at present, have the net contribution of being two downgrades and two unused players.

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Or maybe what Vic said is his way of saying " I want to see him in pads first”

Vic says what he thinks. Same thing last year with a few guys in the secondary when he said nobody asked me

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Has meniscus been reported? Usually if its grade 3 MCL with meniscus that's surgery too.

My thought was PCL. You can potentially play with a torn PCL so that explains the wishy washy will we surgery or wont we?

Schefter said the meniscus is the most serious recovery time aspect of the surgery.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its odd that the team liked Michael Carter so much, supposedly. But as soon as safety isnt looking good they go sign Moore rather than just promoting Carter.

Vic said they might play Carter more when asked. I don’t think getting another option to the PS is an indication they won’t try Carter

34 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I would guess that he talks to him if there is a choice between several players.

Probably.

One other thing to consider. Vic and Howie may have an understanding that if Howie is bringing a player in as an addition to the Practice Squad Vic doesn’t need to be an immediate part of the decision; however, if the player is being brought in to the 53-man roster, Vic needs to be fully involved.

33 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

The NY Giants were fool's gold built on a foundation of sand, with 3 injury prone players in Nabors, Skateboo and Dart. Never was worried with them. On that awful turf as well...

And an offense run by Matt Nagy.

4 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Vic says what he thinks. Same thing last year with a few guys in the secondary when he said nobody asked me

Is it possible to detect the times where his thinking is "They don’t need to know”

20 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Also at this rate, we’re getting one year of Mannion. Better make it count.

I don’t know about that. I think they’re sick and tired of this revolving door of OCs they’ve had over the past 5 years and have a plan to keep him in house for a few more years if warranted. If this offense really starts to click and they finish near the top of the league in production, I think they put together some sort of salary package to keep him that gives him more control of the offense.

11 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Through 2 games, the biggest non-OL concern on the team…I’ll beat my dead horse on this…is global talent. The nfl is a conveyor belt shaped like a bell curve and every product/player is moving on it left to right. You’ve got draft picks getting added on at the beginning, young guys ascending, free agents/trades getting placed on or plucked off around the peak, old guys descending and falling off.

And the last 4 first or second around picks…the 1st and 2nd round picks this year are not really slated to do much. (That’s fine it happens). But the first and second round picks from last year…sure, they are starting. One is playing fine (Campbell) and the other isn’t playing particularly well (Mukuba). But both represent material downgrades in the starting lineup from their predecessors. So you can do the math yourselves on the talent direction when you have two 1st and two 2nd round picks over 2 years that, at present, have the net contribution of being two downgrades and two unused players.

How is Mukuba a downgrade from CJGJ’s feast or famine performance. He was the epitome of what Vic does NOT want … a player who you can’t rely on.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Through 2 games, the biggest non-OL concern on the team…I’ll beat my dead horse on this…is global talent. The nfl is a conveyor belt shaped like a bell curve and every product/player is moving on it left to right. You’ve got draft picks getting added on at the beginning, young guys ascending, free agents/trades getting placed on or plucked off around the peak, old guys descending and falling off.

And the last 4 first or second around picks…the 1st and 2nd round picks this year are not really slated to do much. (That’s fine it happens). But the first and second round picks from last year…sure, they are starting. One is playing fine (Campbell) and the other isn’t playing particularly well (Mukuba). But both represent material downgrades in the starting lineup from their predecessors. So you can do the math yourselves on the talent direction when you have two 1st and two 2nd round picks over 2 years that, at present, have the net contribution of being two downgrades and two unused players.

And that is called the law of averages.....Howie absolutely crushed it for years with Devonte, Davis, Carter, Hunt, Smith, Mitchell, DeJean, Campbell etc......unless you have some sort of crystal ball and can see into the future....you scout, review, think about how a player might fit into your system and culture and roll the dice. Also, it is made harder drafting so low every year. To repeat, the Eagles since 2000 have the 4th best winning % (behind Pats, Steelers, Packers), the 2nd most playoff appearances, the 2nd most playoff victories and have been to 4 Super Bowls and have won 2. The way some of you complain and nitpick, it's just incomprehensible to me. Is this team going to win the Super Bowl? Odds are probably not. Are they a good to great team, yes. Enjoy the ride, this has been a golden era of football in Philadelphia.

15 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its odd that the team liked Michael Carter so much, supposedly. But as soon as safety isnt looking good they go sign Moore rather than just promoting Carter.

Moore is on the PS. Carter is on the active roster. For the time being Carter is a more immediate option for Vic.

It's TBD on OL with new offense and reconfiguration. Have optimism on that front as being a competent unit. People gotta get over the fact that 2024 was peak times around here for OL play and need to come back to reality. Are they gonna be better then last year? I believe so... In due time. WR corps is already improved, as is Hurts improved play and transition into a brand new system. And life without AJ. Oh my....he sure misses him.

Draft picks from 2025 is TBD. Acting like they are busts already is mind boggling and they were picked late in each round. Both have shown glimpses and have been thrown into the fire. Patience grasshopper. 2026 picks is TBD. Like Lemon and the progress he is making. Stowers is gonna be redshirted pretty much. Ertz will teach him the ropes. Also, needs to gain strength. Unfinished product. Will be happy if he gets some snaps by EOY. Like Bell & Morris. Has a shot to be a great draft, if those 2 eventually start.

Some people are never happy and have a hard time taking the L. And need something to be right about and then start grasping at just about anything. 😄

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

I don’t know about that. I think they’re sick and tired of this revolving door of OCs they’ve had over the past 5 years and have a plan to keep him in house for a few more years if warranted. If this offense really starts to click and they finish near the top of the league in production, I think they put together some sort of salary package to keep him that gives him more control of the offense.

Doesn't Mannion already have control? Nick is obviously the top and can veto anything but I was under the impression this is Mannion's offense

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