@Know Life i think this week we should do either rookie of the year or Ferris buehler’s day off as the gif

55 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

I think the RB play needs improvement. Barkley is not necessarily grinding out yards. On the other hand, Tank gets yards that aren't there more often. Part of this is solved with just more Tank in the game and going with more of a 2 RB rotation.

Um, no. Shipley has gotten more snaps because he's earned them. Clearly a better receiver and pass protector and his runs have been every bit as effective as Tank's. What will make the run game more effective is better blocking.

13 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Giants fans are taking the news well

We just need to clone QBs like that one movie from the 90s or early 2000s I can't think of where they kill off the one who injured his knee.

Edit: The 6th Day

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

Um, no. Shipley has gotten more snaps because he's earned them. Clearly a better receiver and pass protector and his runs have been every bit as effective as Tank's. What will make the run game more effective is better blocking.

Early downs I'd like to see more Tank. Offense seems to have a good rhythm with him in the game. Brings the juice. Passing downs give me Shipley. I'm a fan of less Barkley at this point and trying something else. Even the Chiefs take Walker out and put the rookie in and it has worked quite well. Have not struck the right balance yet. Eagles have to decide if they are more of a passing team at this point, then yeah Shipley is in there some. I do believe as this offense evolves and figures things out, we will see a lot of different guys used in different situations. Mannion uses a lot of guys in all groups.

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Early downs I'd like to see more Tank. Offense seems to have a good rhythm with him in the game. Brings the juice. Passing downs give me Shipley. I'm a fan of less Barkley at this point and trying something else. Even the Chiefs take Walker out and put the rookie in and it has worked quite well. Have not struck the right balance yet. Eagles have to decide if they are more of a passing team at this point, then yeah Shipley is in there some.

I think it's mostly about the OL executing, but if we shifted to Tank/Ship in the 1st half to get a lead and to Saquon in the 2nd half to close out/break open the game - that might be the mix I'd prefer.

23 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Giants fans are taking the news well

I don't want to wish injury on anyone. And Dart is kinda fun to watch, I guess. But after about a dozen years of Eli Manning sitting in the pocket and somehow NEVER missing ANY time because of injury...and somehow winning two Super Bowls which will likely get his "average to good but not great" ass into the Hall of Fame, maybe just maybe the Giants were due to start experiencing life the way the other thirty-one teams do every year.

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I don't want to wish injury on anyone. And Dart is kinda fun to watch, I guess. But after about a dozen years of Eli Manning sitting in the pocket and somehow NEVER missing ANY time because of injury...and somehow winning two Super Bowls which will likely get his "average to good but not great" ass into the Hall of Fame, maybe just maybe the Giants were due to start experiencing life the way the other thirty-one teams do every year.

Don't jinx us, we've had a pretty good run ourselves over the last 5yrs+.

Jalen Hurts not a top 20 QB right now according to QB Power Rabkings by The Athletic.

19 minutes ago, just relax said:

Um, no. Shipley has gotten more snaps because he's earned them. Clearly a better receiver and pass protector and his runs have been every bit as effective as Tank's. What will make the run game more effective is better blocking.

Fans tend to forget was a time where we had some poor pass pro RBs. I used to bring it up last of the pederson era and into the beginning of sirianni era. Shipley is good in pass pro and allows you to be running or passing given the down and distance.

10 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I think it's mostly about the OL executing, but if we shifted to Tank/Ship in the 1st half to get a lead and to Saquon in the 2nd half to close out/break open the game - that might be the mix I'd prefer.

I realize the OL is just not going to be dominant RB OL with the current personnel. Tank averaged 5.9 yards per carry last season with a shiddy OL, so gets you more consistent grinding out type yardage that we are missing right now. Doesn't dance as much.

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Fans tend to forget was a time where we had some poor pass pro RBs. I used to bring it up last of the pederson era and into the beginning of sirianni era. Shipley is good in pass pro and allows you to be running or passing given the down and distance.

Was it 2018 where the RB room completely bottomed out with Josh Adams and Wendell Smallwood; times have been worse.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Jalen Hurts not a top 20 QB right now according to QB Power Rabkings by The Athletic.

No way Daniel jones is 9. He’s been pretty bleh. I’d actually argue Allen has been the best not sure it’s close. Hurts has also been better than stroud, Watson, nix, Rodgers, jones, cam, geno, wentz and Herbert at minimum.

If i was doing top 5 just on this season (2 games): 1. Allen 2. Mahomes 3. Purdy 4. Shough 5. Young

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

Was it 2018 where the RB room completely bottomed out with Josh Adams and Wendell Smallwood; times have been worse.

Yup. It was real bad that year. Their pass pro was not good that year. adams was just a JAG and Smallwood was a backup for a reason.

Wouldn’t hate getting MHJ on the cheap

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No way Daniel jones is 9. He’s been pretty bleh. I’d actually argue Allen has been the best not sure it’s close. Hurts has also been better than stroud, Watson, nix, Rodgers, jones, cam, geno, wentz and Herbert at minimum.

If i was doing top 5 just on this season (2 games): 1. Allen 2. Mahomes 3. Purdy 4. Shough 5. Young

I think Austin Mock is trying to farm some engagement. Jalen has at the very least been decent. The 1st game was almost completely out of structure, but he did what he had to. The 2nd game was much more in structure*** but with 2 INTs. I don't think either way is a sustainable way to win against good teams. The structure should be running the ball, using PA and spreading the field more horizontally - I don't think we seen much of that yet, but it's a marathon not a sprint.

13 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Wouldn’t hate getting MHJ on the cheap

He might have the worst body language and effort of any player in the league right now. After getting over the AJ drama and how well the locker room vibes feel now, I say stay away. Maybe he flips the switch, but I hate players who have that in their DNA.

9 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

He might have the worst body language and effort of any player in the league right now. After getting over the AJ drama and how well the locker room vibes feel now, I say stay away. Maybe he flips the switch, but I hate players who have that in their DNA.

Feel like he’s the perfect profile for a change of scenery investment, assuming that his effort is related to him being on that team

24 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I think Austin Mock is trying to farm some engagement. Jalen has at the very least been decent. The 1st game was almost completely out of structure, but he did what he had to. The 2nd game was much more in structure*** but with 2 INTs. I don't think either way is a sustainable way to win against good teams. The structure should be running the ball, using PA and spreading the field more horizontally - I don't think we seen much of that yet, but it's a marathon not a sprint.

He’s definitely in the top 20. It’s absurd he’s not. He has made up for a pedestrian run game and an oline having issues. I have no clue how Daniel jones is 9 and he’s been eh. Jones has basically been ok and Jonathan Taylor has been fantastic

This is why stats nerds usually need to get their eyes checked and watch the game. Hurts has been impressive, given the context of surrounding turmoil on team. Been the one rock. Literally carried team on his back and won first 2 games. I want to know who comes up clutch to win a game? Not empty stats.

10 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

This is why stats nerds usually need to get their eyes checked and watch the game. Hurts has been impressive, given the context of team turmoil. Been the one rock. Literally carried team on his back and won first 2 games.

It's not being a "stat nerd"

His ranking is rage bait. That should be obvious

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2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

You can tell Kenny Moore is a Nick-Howie pickup. I’d be surprised if he’s playing soon if at all

If Vic thinks he’s good enough, he won’t care whose idea was to bring him in. But yeah, Vic won’t play anyone who hasn’t practiced long enough in his system

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Howie seems to have a tendency of not communicating with Vic when brining in players. I don't care how good Howie is that's a flaw that needs to be corrected.

That’s the typical Vic response to dumb Beats asking way too early questions.

Fangio said that Greenard isn't fully ready yet with conditioning and still needs catching up to do so if he plays he's expected to be on a snaps limit for a while. Meanwhile Jaelen Phillips is off to a good start in Carolina because Howie refuses to sign guys midseason.