10 minutes ago, pangbun said:

I cant wait to watch the Eagles Draft reaction videos this year on youtube. The ones with Hurts being drafted last year were fun. 🤪

I like the Daniel Jones reaction videos because like 75% of them are saying "please be Josh Allen, please be Josh Allen" 

2 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

That’s the concern.  As a top half first round pick you’re counting on that player to be the alpha dog of the offense, the volume producer.  He’ll be absorbing a lot of contact.

There’s no question Smith would be the best WR the Eagles have the moment he steps on the field, so I’m not trying to say I’d be livid if he were the pick.  I’d be apprehensive, though.

 

Where does this belief come from that you buy into so religiously that size has any correlation to injuries?  Alshon Jeffery is a big bodied WR.  Guy is as brittle as they come.  Who are these smaller WRs that are always getting injured due to contact injuries?  

It would be one thing if we were talking about a RB who is going to be running into a mob of physical contact every time he touches the ball.  But we aren't, we are talking about probably the least physically demanding position in football outside of kickers, punters and long snappers.  

The only concern about Smith's weight should be how effective he is beating press coverage at the snap of the ball against NFL corners.  I'm sure at some times it could potentially be an issue but I've watched a lot of videos on him this offseason and it seems like corners are always trying to line up right on him, including JayCe Horn, and I have seen no issues with him being able to get off the line and get out into his route.  Nate Burleson has a good breakdown out there on this very issue and Smith's footwork at the snap of the ball as well as his body control and awareness to turn his shoulders for the point of the CBs contact so they don't have much of a surface area at all to try to get onto and stop Smith from getting off the LOS.  

It's not going to be the issue of Pinkston against the Panthers in the NFC Title game because Pinkson was nowhere near as skilled with his footwork that DeVonta Smith is.  

 

 

Per pff

Terrace Marshall Jr.: 59.5 career contested catch %

Best in the 2021 NFL Draft

I prefer a WR who excels at making sure his catches are uncontested.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I like the Daniel Jones reaction videos because like 75% of them are saying "please be Josh Allen, please be Josh Allen" 

Gettleman needs to keep that #11 pick and make another selection out of left field 

Just now, Alphagrand said:

Gettleman needs to keep that #11 pick and make another selection out of left field 

Paye or Barmore and i'm happy. 

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

**** coaching will do that.  They have a new DC. 

Talent is the main issue.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

The Eagles have no CB, you and me at WR, JAG LBs, huge questions at QB, $160 million invested at d-tackle and they are going to take Christian Barmore to add to the rotation.

If the Eagles had any track record or success at drafting I'd be more than happy to take digs at Jerry Jones for wanting the best player in the draft.

The Eagles were in prime position to get Pitts and they traded back.  I'm not saying Pitts is a savior, but numerous draft gurus, our own Ray Didinger included have him rated as the top player in the draft. 

I don't care if the Cowboys need help on defense.  If they get the best player in the draft, that SUCKS for the Eagles.  Especially since we can't cover anyone as it is.

Screw Pitts and if Ray Diddy says that he will flop.

37 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I prefer a WR who excels at making sure his catches are uncontested.

It's the NFL though. That doesn't routinely happen.

Believe it or not, I actually feel a bit better about the FO and the Hurts situation.  

My biggest concern was that they venture too far down the wrong path with a QB who isn't even a very good passer, transitioning to a running QB offense, which is a predictable, ill-fated gimmick.

1. They initially tried to mend fences and keep Wentz.

2. They kicked the tires on Russell Wilson.

3. They kicked the tires on Desaun Watson.

4. They kicked the tires on trading up for Zach Wilson.

5. Howie and Siri could not have sounded less committed to Hurts in their press conference.

Based on the writing on the wall, I'm pretty sure the FO doesn't like Hurts any more than we do.  (beats the hell out of all of us why they drafted him).   So under those circumstances, sure, hand him the keys for 2021, see how he does, and expect to be on the lookout for a real QB (which they are already doing).  If he surprises, great, but let it be a pleasant surprise.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's the NFL though. That doesn't routinely happen.

Isn't that the entire point of the NFL?  CBs aren't really allowed to cover WRs anymore; I would argue that it does routinely happen.  Just watch our secondary (and most secondaries, actually).

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

CeeDee Lamb had almost 1000 yards and 6 TD with Dak only playing 5 games.  He's going to be a thorn in our sides for a long time.

Did that change their record?  

 

Like I said, shiny toy.

13 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Talent is the main issue.

 

Talent is an issue for sure but it isn't like our defense is all that much more talented than theirs and most here are clamoring for a WR in round 1.  We have the better defensive line but Demarcus Lawrence is no slouch.  They have far better linebackers even if Jaylon Smith had a down year.  They actually have a young corner on their team with promise in Diggs.  All of their defensive talent that is worthwhile are in their 20s while anyone worthwhile talent wise on our defense is in their 30s with the exceptions of Barnett and Sweat but are they anything more than role players? 

Let me help those that freak out about Dallas...

 

Since 1996, Dallas has 3 playoff wins, and zero conference championship games.

Since 1996, Eagles have 14 playoff wins, 6 conference championship game appearances, 2 conference championship game wins and a Super Bowl.

 

Tell me again why I should care about what Dallas does?   To quote General Ulysses S. Grant, "Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do."

Just replace "Lee" with "Jones" or "Cowboys" and there you have it.

 

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Talent is an issue for sure but it isn't like our defense is all that much more talented than theirs and most here are clamoring for a WR in round 1.  We have the better defensive line but Demarcus Lawrence is no slouch.  They have far better linebackers even if Jaylon Smith had a down year.  They actually have a young corner on their team with promise in Diggs.  All of their defensive talent that is worthwhile are in their 20s while anyone worthwhile talent wise on our defense is in their 30s with the exceptions of Barnett and Sweat but are they anything more than role players? 

I'm not comparing the two teams.  Their defense isn't good, and need better players to improve from last season.

17 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Believe it or not, I actually feel a bit better about the FO and the Hurts situation. 

Based on the writing on the wall, I'm pretty sure the FO doesn't like Hurts any more than we do.  (beats the hell out of all of us why they drafted him).   So under those circumstances, sure, hand him the keys for 2021, see how he does, and expect to be on the lookout for a real QB (which they are already doing).  If he surprises, great, but let it be a pleasant surprise.

The QB could be Lawrence and I wouldn't trust him until he actually performed in the NHL for a couple seasons.

QBs are like NHL goalies, f---g head cases!

They're going to give Hurts a chance, I think they learned an important lesson from Tampa Bay, build the team, then worry about the QB.

The problem with a lot of young QBs is they get drafted by the worst teams, which means they start their career with swiss cheese OLs and WRs who can't run proper routes.

I think you'll have a better bet of success with Hurts behind a top OL, handing off to Sanders and (power back to be named later), and throwing to (WR to be drafted}, Reagor, Fulgham, Watkins and Goedert and (H-back to be named later). If he doesn't succeed, pick up a solid veteran QB in free agency and keep an eye out for your QB of the future.

 More like Kyle Putz.

 

 

 

Boom. Roasted. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Did that change their record?  

 

Like I said, shiny toy.

Doesn't mean Lamb won't be a thorn in our side.  

A little more on the Dallas Cowboys' fall from relevance...

 

Fewest playoff wins since 2000... 
0 - Lions, Bengals
1 - Browns, Football Team, Dolphins
2 - Bills
3 - COWBOYS, Jaguars, Bears

 

That places the COWBOYS squarely in the bottom third of the NFL, amongst the national punch line organizations.

And think on this... the Cardinals have 5, the J-E-T-S Jets have 6!   So... again, why should I care what Dallas is doing?

Crushing it 

 

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Doesn't mean Lamb won't be a thorn in our side.  

Yes.  Teams that draft at the top of the draft often an find a player that can put up stats... that doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of the team.   

Calvin Johnson was a thorn in the side of a lot of teams... and the Lions won 0 playoff games during his career.   So... what did it matter in the end?

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Doesn't mean Lamb won't be a thorn in our side.  

I would argue DAL is already in a position where they need to totally rebuild that defense — again.  Would you pay money to extend LVE when he’s chronically injured?  DeMarcus Lawrence is a $25M cap hit this season and $27M next season — to get 5 or 6 sacks.  Jaylon Smith has underperformed his extension and they might want out of his contract PDQ.

Them drafting anything on offense other than OL would be malpractice 

Per pelissero 

The NFL informed clubs today they'll be limited to a maximum of five tryout players at rookie minicamps next month, per source.

Some teams traditionally have invited dozens of unsigned players to compete with draft picks and undrafted signings. Smaller events in 2021

29 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Believe it or not, I actually feel a bit better about the FO and the Hurts situation.  

My biggest concern was that they venture too far down the wrong path with a QB who isn't even a very good passer, transitioning to a running QB offense, which is a predictable, ill-fated gimmick.

1. They initially tried to mend fences and keep Wentz.

2. They kicked the tires on Russell Wilson.

3. They kicked the tires on Desaun Watson.

4. They kicked the tires on trading up for Zach Wilson.

5. Howie and Siri could not have sounded less committed to Hurts in their press conference.

Based on the writing on the wall, I'm pretty sure the FO doesn't like Hurts any more than we do.  (beats the hell out of all of us why they drafted him).   So under those circumstances, sure, hand him the keys for 2021, see how he does, and expect to be on the lookout for a real QB (which they are already doing).  If he surprises, great, but let it be a pleasant surprise.

And if they love a QB at 12?