55 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

Cavs gave up a lot of assets for Mitchell. Imagine if Morey traded Simmons last offseason for a similar package. They would have had a lot of ammo. 

My impression is that it was always his plan to get Harden if at all possible.

 

2 hours ago, Blazehound said:

Cavs gave up a lot of assets for Mitchell. Imagine if Morey traded Simmons last offseason for a similar package. They would have had a lot of ammo. 

Did they? Sexton who they didn't want to sign, Lauri a guy that plays the four and position taken with Mobley, and some unprotected picks 

1 hour ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Did they? Sexton who they didn't want to sign, Lauri a guy that plays the four and position taken with Mobley, and some unprotected picks 

The draft capital they received is breath taking. They own Cleveland’s first round picks for half a decade. 

The Cavaliers are sending the Jazz forward Lauri Markkanen, rookie wing Ochai Agbaji, guard Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks (2025, 2027 and 2029) and two pick swaps (2026 and 2028) for Mitchell, sources said.

 

17 minutes ago, Blazehound said:

The draft capital they received is breath taking. They own Cleveland’s first round picks for half a decade. 

The Cavaliers are sending the Jazz forward Lauri Markkanen, rookie wing Ochai Agbaji, guard Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks (2025, 2027 and 2029) and two pick swaps (2026 and 2028) for Mitchell, sources said.

 

Swaps are nothing as Cavs will better and nothing more than late 1sts 

Jarrett Allen 24, Mobley 21, Garland 22, Mitchell 25

None of them have but their prime and that is a great core. They need Okore to start over Levert for wing presence and D

49 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Swaps are nothing as Cavs will better and nothing more than late 1sts 

Jarrett Allen 24, Mobley 21, Garland 22, Mitchell 25

None of them have but their prime and that is a great core. They need Okore to start over Levert for wing presence and D

It’s WAY too far out to reach the conclusion that the Cavs will be better or that the firsts will end up being at the backend of the draft. I’m sure the Nets thought similar when offering up unprotected picks for Pierce and Garnett.  Mitchell can opt out after the 24-25 season, which I’m sure he will.

And a great core? IDK. It’s nice, but an odd fit with both Garland and Mitchell in the backcourt. First or second round playoff fodder, with little cap flexibility and no draft capital moving forward.

8 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Lol knicks lost out again. 

They kinda won. The Cavs saved them for massively overpaying for Mitchell. He’s comically overrated. 

Are we still supposed to hate him because of the Ben Simmons thing? 

I'm confused 

17 hours ago, Blazehound said:

It’s WAY too far out to reach the conclusion that the Cavs will be better or that the firsts will end up being at the backend of the draft. I’m sure the Nets thought similar when offering up unprotected picks for Pierce and Garnett.  Mitchell can opt out after the 24-25 season, which I’m sure he will.

And a great core? IDK. It’s nice, but an odd fit with both Garland and Mitchell in the backcourt. First or second round playoff fodder, with little cap flexibility and no draft capital moving forward.

Yes let's make a comparison of Pierce who was 36 and KG, 37, to 25 year old Donovan Mitchell and already making predictions that he will opt out. So me how many late 1sts turn into Mitchell. 

You do realize Cavs were top 4 in the East last year most of the regular season before injuries just decimated them. 

Allen, 24, and Garland, 22, were All Stars last year, Mobley potential is off the charts, and Mitchell is a top 20 25 player in the leagues . That is a great core. They still have Rubio, Love, Levert, Okoro, Osman, and on the richest owners in the league in Gilbert. 

They gave up spare parts and 3 1sts for a Top 20ish guy that is a high end number 2. This was a no-brainer for the Cavs

12 hours ago, iladelphxx said:

Are we still supposed to hate him because of the Ben Simmons thing? 

I'm confused 

No. He’s just an overrated volume scorer. That and his "in my opinion, we won that game” after losing to the Sixers made him look like an idiot. 

Bulls guard Lonzo Ball is expected to miss training camp and is doubtful for the start of the regular season because of lingering pain and discomfort following meniscus surgery on his left knee in January, sources told ESPN on Friday.

4 hours ago, nipples said:

No. He’s just an overrated volume scorer. That and his "in my opinion, we won that game” after losing to the Sixers made him look like an idiot. 

I mean he had the same FG% as Poole, Beal, Herro, Middleton, Tatum, and SGA. 

He is a lazy defender and is lack of effort. He came out of college known more of a defender than scorer so he can defender with his wingspan even if undersized. Now he has a generational talent behind him in Mobley as well.

I think he fits in great with the Cavs because Garland struggled in close games because no one else could create. They were also 35-21 before Allen started to get hurt. 

With the Cleveland Cavaliers trading for Donovan Mitchell, they created one potential issue concerning the next contract of Evan Mobley.

Because the Cavaliers now have Mitchell and Darius Garland on their roster as five-year designated rookie scale max extension players, they cannot have a third player simultaneously. 

Mobley will be eligible for a five-year max extension in 2024, but he will have to wait until he is a restricted free agent in 2025 to sign a five-year max if both Mitchell and Garland remain on the Cavaliers' roster at that time. Mobley can alternatively sign a four-year max extension in 2024, which would make him an unrestricted free agent one season earlier.

In this firesale, I wonder if we can have any of these guys for Thybulle. 

The Jazz are talking trades for Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley and Jordan Clarkson. It's also expected that Danny Ainge will gauge the market for Rudy Gay and Malik Beasley as well.

21 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

In this firesale, I wonder if we can have any of these guys for Thybulle. 

The Jazz are talking trades for Bojan Bogdanovic, Mike Conley and Jordan Clarkson. It's also expected that Danny Ainge will gauge the market for Rudy Gay and Malik Beasley as well.

Interestingly enough, Thybulle would now be a good fit for the Cavs given their subpar defensive backcourt.

 

That’s actually blow to Boston’s bench. 

 

16 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

That’s actually blow to Boston’s bench. 

 

Given his age, that’s going to be a tough injury to bounce back from. Hard to see him contributing much, if at all, this season. 

1 minute ago, Blazehound said:

Given his age, that’s going to be a tough injury to bounce back from. Hard to see him contributing much, if at all, this season. 

Frankly i can’t see him playing this year. He tore the acl and likely MCL as that was the initial report he did. Not sure he’s even had the surgery yet. They could be waiting a couple weeks to do it. So let’s say he did have it this week, it’s a minimum of 8 months and that tends to be if he returns early. Usually it’s 9-12 months. That brings you to basically to may/June if it’s 8-9 month return. I don’t see him just jumping into the fray after not playing all year in the playoffs.  Plus he’s older so it might take him longer. 

plus if Boston designated it as disability player exemption they can use 3.2 million. I’m guessing they go that route. Been reports they are likely to use that and potentially go after Carmelo 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, GoEagles5921 said:

 

Actually a good signing for the bench. 

I like it. 

We needed more players like him and Tucker 

I like this for adding a decent back up center for the regular season.

I hate it because I don't trust Doc to bench him if/when he is killing them in the playoffs.

Nice bench signing. What’s their 2nd unit look like?

Melton

Shake/Kork

House/Thybulle

Niang/Reed

Harrell/Reed