July 20, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, Swoop said: I'm on the trade everyone bandwagon. Cox, Ertz (obviously), Graham, Lane, etc. This team is years away from being contenders. I'd agree but can any of them even be traded? 18 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said: Bias as an Eagles fan aside, I think it’s kind of crazy to think Eagles will be worse than Lions or Texans. I wouldn't be upset with the #1 overall pick Maybe Howie finally gets fired and the new GM has a bunch of great picks to fix the team I can dream right?
July 20, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: New thread brings out the moronic trolls I see. Yep. Also brings out the "get the hell off my lawn” Dementia suffering old timers as well
July 20, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, jwill2420 said: Yep. Also brings out the "get the hell off my lawn” Dementia suffering old timers as well The old thread had plenty of that
July 20, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said: Bias as an Eagles fan aside, I think it’s kind of crazy to think Eagles will be worse than Lions or Texans. But at +1400 odds? That's not a bad bet...
July 20, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I'd agree but can any of them even be traded? I wouldn't be upset with the #1 overall pick Maybe Howie finally gets fired and the new GM has a bunch of great picks to fix the team I can dream right? So you’re perfectly okay to be the worst team in the league? It’s a dream of yours? The new GM in that scenario could be worse
July 20, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, MillerTime said: The OLD thread had plenty of that See what you did there lol
July 20, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, MillerTime said: So you’re perfectly okay to be the worst team in the league? It’s a dream of yours? The new GM in that scenario could be worse I said I wouldn't be upset if we get the #1 overall pick Howie getting fired is a dream New GM could be worse but I'd easily take the chance
July 20, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Swoop said: I'm on the trade everyone bandwagon. Cox, Ertz (obviously), Graham, Lane, etc. This team is years away from being contenders. You might be right but people were saying that exact same thing after Chip was fired.......
July 20, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, 315Eagles said: You might be right but people were saying that exact same thing after Chip was fired....... At least those players were all 5 years younger. The players that weren't those players Howie went ahead and traded/got rid of them all once he took back power Game of Thrones style. There was a major purge of Chip brought in talent with very few remaining.
July 20, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, schuy7 said: But at +1400 odds? That's not a bad bet... I’ll admit I probably misunderstood the take then. I’m not all that familiar with betting odds, just got into it last season & still learning about it.
July 20, 20214 yr https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-2021-season-jalen-hurts-overunder-total-touchdowns Can Jalen Hurts top his over/under number of total touchdowns? NBC Sports betting partner PointsBet lists Hurts’ over/under on total passing and rushing touchdowns at 24.5. That number is interesting considering it’s now a 17-game schedule and Hurts can hurt opposing defenses with his legs as well. Randall Cunningham (1987 - 12 games): 23 passing TD, 3 rushing TD Donovan McNabb (2000 - 16 games): 21 passing TD, 6 rushing TD Carson Wentz (2016 - 16 games): 16 passing TD, 2 rushing TD As long as Hurts stays healthy I think he can combine for around 30 total TDs rushing and passing in a 17 game season. He had 9 total in 4 games as a rookie. He will be entering a more stable with a healthy offensive line *knock on wood* and better talent with DeVonta and Reagor hopefully improving in his second year and not having to deal with injuries. I'm also optimistic in Sirianni being able to design some smart gameplans. I would take the over big time.
July 20, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Swoop said: Curious, where would everyone rank Gesicki in terms of TEs? He'd be right around Goedert. Looking up his and Gesicki's stats they are actually very similiar although DG has played in 5 fewer games. I figured Gesicki had better numbers but wasnt the case.
July 20, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said: https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/eagles-2021-season-jalen-hurts-overunder-total-touchdowns Can Jalen Hurts top his over/under number of total touchdowns? NBC Sports betting partner PointsBet lists Hurts’ over/under on total passing and rushing touchdowns at 24.5. That number is interesting considering it’s now a 17-game schedule and Hurts can hurt opposing defenses with his legs as well. Randall Cunningham (1987 - 12 games): 23 passing TD, 3 rushing TD Donovan McNabb (2000 - 16 games): 21 passing TD, 6 rushing TD Carson Wentz (2016 - 16 games): 16 passing TD, 2 rushing TD As long as Hurts stays healthy I think he can combine for around 30 total TDs rushing and passing in a 17 game season. He had 9 total in 4 games as a rookie. He will be entering a more stable with a healthy offensive line *knock on wood* and better talent with DeVonta and Reagor hopefully improving in his second year and not having to deal with injuries. I'm also optimistic in Sirianni being able to design some smart gameplans. I would take the over big time. If he's going to scramble several times a game, which I have no problem with him doing, then he better protect himself or else he wont even play 17 games. He needs to avoid hits at all cost, slide, go out of bounds, etc. Its something I wish Wentz would have done more of instead of taking on defenders.
July 20, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I said I wouldn't be upset if we get the #1 overall pick Howie getting fired is a dream New GM could be worse but I'd easily take the chance Getting the #1 pick this year, 2022 draft, would most likely mean getting Sam Howell or Spencer Rattler. No thanks. Rather get the #1 pick for the 2023 draft. At least you could get the kid from Clemson, DJ U. I thought there was another highly rated QB prospect that year as well but cant think of any names. Have to look it up.
July 20, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said: I’ll admit I probably misunderstood the take then. I’m not all that familiar with betting odds, just got into it last season & still learning about it. $100 bet wins you $1,400
July 20, 20214 yr 43 minutes ago, MillerTime said: So you’re perfectly okay to be the worst team in the league? It’s a dream of yours? The new GM in that scenario could be worse Could also be better. Shouldn’t be afraid of trying to improve from mediocrity out of fear of possibly doing worse.
July 20, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said: Could also be better. Shouldn’t be afraid of trying to improve from mediocrity out of fear of possibly doing worse. Winning a Super Bowl and making the playoffs the next 2 years isn’t mediocrity. 4-12 is but that’s an outlier.
July 20, 20214 yr Just now, MillerTime said: Winning a Super Bowl and making the playoffs the next 2 years isn’t mediocrity. 4-12 is but that’s an outlier. The fact that it crashed so quickly is an indictment of the GM, his drafting and roster management.
July 20, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, BigEFly said: I have my doubts. I still think the best chance of value is if a team loses their TE, or their prospects don’t develop, which is likely during TC or the PS and for Ertz that may mean he goes to a contender. Win for both. Meh... Trying to catch lightning in a bottle like he did with Sam Bradford. Those situations don't come along every year. I'd have preferred to be rid of that contract and have this issue resolved. Frankly, I think that's worth more than the potential gain in waiting. More than likely this ends up being a lose-lose situation.
July 20, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: Getting the #1 pick this year, 2022 draft, would most likely mean getting Sam Howell or Spencer Rattler. No thanks. Rather get the #1 pick for the 2023 draft. At least you could get the kid from Clemson, DJ U. I thought there was another highly rated QB prospect that year as well but cant think of any names. Have to look it up. The 2026 Draft is the one to get the #1 pick in. That should be when Arch Manning will be draft eligible.
July 20, 20214 yr 52 minutes ago, schuy7 said: But at +1400 odds? That's not a bad bet... The move to make if you want to play it is to look to arbitrage it. You get +1400 now, hope the Eagles start cold, the odds move fast, then you sell the position when it’s like +500. No need to actually see the position through.
July 20, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, downundermike said: The fact that it crashed so quickly is an indictment of the GM, his drafting and roster management. Most GMs don’t even get there. And pressing the roster to try and get back is where he failed. But, it’s not a land most GM go to so it’s okay to have growing pains. Actually, most teams who win the Super Bowl go through the same thing. The Ravens and Broncos prove that. The Panthers and Falcons are also there even though they didn’t win.
July 20, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Swoop said: Curious, where would everyone rank Gesicki in terms of TEs? This is a list of what I consider the top UDFA TE next year, some older veterans, a few journeyman, high draft picks and guys looking for their 2nd contract. There are a lot more, it's a huge TE class. Keep in mind this is just the FA list. I think Gesicki is in the bottom 10 of the FA class let alone the other TE's signed. This is why I'm not giving Goedert top 3 money. I'd take a handful of these guys over him, especially at what he wants. Zach Ertz OJ Howard Jimmy Graham Gronk Dallas Goedert Mike Gesicki Maxx Williams Logan Thomas Evan Engram Hayden Hurst David Njoku Mo Alie-Cox Gerald Everett Robert Tonyan Mark Andrews That's not including guys who are signed. Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Darren Waller, Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, Hunter Henry, Jonnu Smith. There are so many good tight ends in the NFL and you have Kyle Pitts, Pat Freiermuth and Tommy Tremble coming in as rookies.
July 20, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, bpac55 said: This is a list of what I consider the top UDFA TE next year, some older veterans, a few journeyman, high draft picks and guys looking for their 2nd contract. There are a lot more, it's a huge TE class. Keep in mind this is just the FA list. I think Gesicki is in the bottom 10 of the FA class let alone the other TE's signed. This is why I'm not giving Goedert top 3 money. I'd take a handful of these guys over him, especially at what he wants. Zach Ertz OJ Howard Jimmy Graham Gronk Dallas Goedert Mike Gesicki Maxx Williams Logan Thomas Evan Engram Hayden Hurst David Njoku Mo Alie-Cox Gerald Everett Robert Tonyan Mark Andrews That's not including guys who are signed. Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Darren Waller, Noah Fant, TJ Hockenson, Hunter Henry, Jonnu Smith. There are so many good tight ends in the NFL and you have Kyle Pitts, Pat Freiermuth and Tommy Tremble coming in as rookies. All your post told me is signing Goedert before the TE market blows up is a good thing. It’s top 3 money right now, but obviously with that group of FA it will be barely top 12 next year
