26 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Week 17 of the 2020 Eagles season disagrees with this statement.

And they were roasted for it, and not saying this is why but the coaching staff was fired after the season.  Just because 1 team did it, doesn't mean another team will or should do it.  Think about Reich and Wentz having a prior relationship, knowing how bad things went for him in his end in Philly, you invest to trade for him and try to get him back to good QB play.  But throughout the season, you find "creative ways" to keep him below 70% snaps.  We're not talking about later in the season if they have a few wins and the season is lost, the guy said the GM would be creative to keep under 70% that means the entire season.  That's not trying to win, and that's disrespectful to your players.  The message to the team is we're not solely focused on winning every week, we're scheming about a 2nd vs 1st round pick in May.

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

Good.  Now haters can tune in to hear Carson's greatest hits and get triggered all over again:

• Faith in Jesus
• AO1
• hunting
• guns
• personal choice to not get vaxxed
• not changing the type of player he is and will always be aggressive

Meh. Been there done that. I’m good. 😂

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

And they were roasted for it, and not saying this is why but the coaching staff was fired after the season.  Just because 1 team did it, doesn't mean another team will or should do it.  Think about Reich and Wentz having a prior relationship, knowing how bad things went for him in his end in Philly, you invest to trade for him and try to get him back to good QB play.  But throughout the season, you find "creative ways" to keep him below 70% snaps.  We're not talking about later in the season if they have a few wins and the season is lost, the guy said the GM would be creative to keep under 70% that means the entire season.  That's not trying to win, and that's disrespectful to your players.  The message to the team is we're not solely focused on winning every week, we're scheming about a 2nd vs 1st round pick in May.

Agreed. There’s not realistic way for the Colts to keep We to out of games for the sake of a pick. Considering the fragile mentality of Wentz would they really want to test his mindset just to keep a pick? Let’s be honest here. The only reason why they would bench Wentz in order to preserve that pick would be to draft a quarterback. They would have to be convinced Wentz isn’t the guy to bench him.

20 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Agreed. There’s not realistic way for the Colts to keep We to out of games for the sake of a pick. Considering the fragile mentality of Wentz would they really want to test his mindset just to keep a pick? Let’s be honest here. The only reason why they would bench Wentz in order to preserve that pick would be to draft a quarterback. They would have to be convinced Wentz isn’t the guy to bench him.

It's a long season and a lot can change in the dynamics.  I said awhile back, if Carson is playing badly that's the easiest no brainer.  He's not playing well anyway, bench him and keep the 1st round pick.  

If he's playing well but the team is losing, you're risking faith in the investment of your QB.  Wentz needs a solid year to build his confidence.  They traded for him, so they wanted him.  Their goal should be to make him successful.  Unless they give up on him and don't care about his/their future together.

I see my post worked wonders.... 

Maniacal laugh ensues as I slowly walk backwards back out of this thread......

Until next time my pets lol. 

Let's just hope Wentz makes it out of this Sunday in tact... have a feeling he's going to get to know Aaron Donald very well.

2 minutes ago, nipples said:

Let's just hope Wentz makes it out of this Sunday in tact... have a feeling he's going to get to know Aaron Donald very well.

I hope not well enough to be knocked out of the game, but well enough to lose again. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I hope not well enough to be knocked out of the game, but well enough to lose again. 

They need to win some games, Colts will pull the plug so they do not surrender a first.  People can took about the optics of it all they want, but the Colts are going to do what is best for the Colts.  They need to be in the wild card hunt, thus lowering the pick we get, to keep playing Wentz.  If they are out of it, and Wentz gets dinged, they will IR him for the year.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

They need to win some games, Colts will pull the plug so they do not surrender a first.  People can took about the optics of it all they want, but the Colts are going to do what is best for the Colts.  They need to be in the wild card hunt, thus lowering the pick we get, to keep playing Wentz.  If they are out of it, and Wentz gets dinged, they will IR him for the year.

Yeah I’m not buying into the idea they would bench Wentz for a first. Like I mentioned earlier the only reason they would want to preserve that first would be to draft a quarterback. If Carson is playing like the quarterback they need would they really play those types of games with him knowing how poorly he takes that stuff? It would be a major mistake on their part to bench a player to preserve a pick (in particular this player) unless they don’t think he’s the guy. With that being the case them going 0-2 isn’t the end of the world. 

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah I’m not buying into the idea they would bench Wentz for a first. Like I mentioned earlier the only reason they would want to preserve that first would be to draft a quarterback. If Carson is playing like the quarterback they need would they really play those types of games with him knowing how poorly he takes that stuff? It would be a major mistake on their part to bench a player to preserve a pick (in particular this player) unless they don’t think he’s the guy. With that being the case them going 0-2 isn’t the end of the world. 

Dude, we benched our QB to preserve 6 spots in the draft.  You don't think the Colts would do it to preserve 32 spots in the draft.

Just now, downundermike said:

Dude, we benched our QB to preserve 6 spots in the draft.  You don't think the Colts would do it to preserve 32 spots in the draft.

😂 No I don’t think they would do that. How did that all play out? They fired their coach,  their quarterback requested a trade hand he wasn’t even playing at the time), and the franchise was the laughingstock of the league. On top of that you’re referring to one game. You’re basically saying the Colts would bench Wentz for 3-4 games at the end of the season to preserve a pick. It would be unprecedented for an NFL franchise to take that type of dive.

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I see my post worked wonders.... 

Maniacal laugh ensues as I slowly walk backwards back out of this thread......

Until next time my pets lol. 

 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

They need to win some games, Colts will pull the plug so they do not surrender a first.  People can took about the optics of it all they want, but the Colts are going to do what is best for the Colts.  They need to be in the wild card hunt, thus lowering the pick we get, to keep playing Wentz.  If they are out of it, and Wentz gets dinged, they will IR him for the year.

You're ignoring that their QB is mentally fragile and is likely to throw a fit if he's benched.

Either way, as I mentioned earlier in the thread that division doesn't look particularly strong and Wentz only has to play 12-13 games to get to 75% of snaps. In a weak division, they could be at 5-7 through 12 games and still in the hunt for a playoff spot. 

58 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Dude, we benched our QB to preserve 6 spots in the draft.  You don't think the Colts would do it to preserve 32 spots in the draft.

Again... Wentz played like dogshit last year and was so butt hurt about being benched for it that he wanted out of town. If the Colts feel there is any chance of him actually being their future, they aren't benching him so he can get all up in his feelings again.

1 hour ago, nipples said:

Again... Wentz played like dogshit last year and was so butt hurt about being benched for it that he wanted out of town. If the Colts feel there is any chance of him actually being their future, they aren't benching him so he can get all up in his feelings again.

I agree with this! Wentz decided almost immediately that he wanted out after being benched. I can't see the Colts being able to sell to him that they are benching him to protect a first round pick. 

The Colts play in a bad division where every team is winless except for the first place Texans.  Indy has a lot to play for and every incentive to keep its starting QB in the game well into the season unless the wheels completely fall off.

4 hours ago, nipples said:

Again... Wentz played like dogshit last year and was so butt hurt about being benched for it that he wanted out of town. If the Colts feel there is any chance of him actually being their future, they aren't benching him so he can get all up in his feelings again.

I’ve been saying the exact same since the deal first went down to anyone suggesting Indy may bench him to protect that pick.  I feel pretty good about getting that 1st (unless ***knock on wood*** he gets injured again).  

8 hours ago, time2rock said:

I’ve been saying the exact same since the deal first went down to anyone suggesting Indy may bench him to protect that pick.  I feel pretty good about getting that 1st (unless ***knock on wood*** he gets injured again).  

I think him getting injured is the biggest risk to us not getting the first from the Colts.

11 hours ago, time2rock said:

I’ve been saying the exact same since the deal first went down to anyone suggesting Indy may bench him to protect that pick.  I feel pretty good about getting that 1st (unless ***knock on wood*** he gets injured again).  

Lets hope that is the case. I just don't see Colts surrendering a 1st round pick....

1 hour ago, Jeep_man said:

Lets hope that is the case. I just don't see Colts surrendering a 1st round pick....

They may have no choice, even if they suck this year. That division is bad. Houston despite their week 1 win is a train wreck. Jags are still terrible. The Titans have SOME talent but they’ve basically been riding Henry the last couple season and you’ve got to think he’s due to break down. Big backs who are heavily utilized over multiple seasons just don’t hold up. 

7 minutes ago, nipples said:

The Titans have SOME talent but they’ve basically been riding Henry the last couple season and you’ve got to think he’s due to break down. Big backs who are heavily utilized over multiple seasons just don’t hold up. 

They also lost their OC in the off season so we shall see how they handle that. They may be fine but look at the impact it had when we lost Reich.

49 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

They also lost their OC in the off season so we shall see how they handle that. They may be fine but look at the impact it had when we lost Reich.

Be funny if Sirriani gets the Eagles turned around and the Colts flounder. Wonder if you have Colts fans crediting Siri for the Colts success like Eagles fans did with Reich after he left.

34 minutes ago, nipples said:

Be funny if Sirriani gets the Eagles turned around and the Colts flounder. Wonder if you have Colts fans crediting Siri for the Colts success like Eagles fans did with Reich after he left.

Yeah I mean that'll certainly be interesting. I think ultimately there's so much that goes in to the success of a team. And i know that's a rather obvious statement but we see it quite a lot. I mean Reich wasn't great for the Chargers before he joined us in Philly. In fact I remember the appointment wasn't exactly welcome with jubilation. 

3 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean that'll certainly be interesting. I think ultimately there's so much that goes in to the success of a team. And i know that's a rather obvious statement but we see it quite a lot. I mean Reich wasn't great for the Chargers before he joined us in Philly. In fact I remember the appointment wasn't exactly welcome with jubilation. 

The Pederson and Reich mojo was magic juice.  Likely because they were such good friends and could work together without ego getting in the way.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The Pederson and Reich mojo was magic juice.  Likely because they were such good friends and could work together without ego getting in the way.

Yeah I think so. They had a good relationship and Reich was also able to play the right role between Wentz and DeFilippo. He was able to be more of the good cop with Wentz. Everything just lined up nicely.