Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said: The corner played that play exactly how you're supposed to. He did absolutely nothing illegal. It was textbook, picture perfect coverage on a 9 route. Correct. Great coverage by the DB, but at the same time, Reagor has to know how to work against that. He was too passive in allowing the DB to redirect his route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I'm a Lions fan tonight. Also, that fan should make at least a $50,000 bet on the Packers to win outright so he's guaranteed significant profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManuManu Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said: Correct. Great coverage by the DB, but at the same time, Reagor has to know how to work against that. He was too passive in allowing the DB to redirect his route. Reagor never threatened inside to create space. He runs directly to the corner’s outside shoulder, which is fine, if he’s going to get vertical. Instead he fades to the sideline, letting the corner do exactly what he wanted to do. It’s WR 101 stuff. It doesn’t take high level WR play to do it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, RLC said: I'm a Lions fan tonight. Also, that fan should make a $50,000 bet on the Packers to win outright so he's guaranteed significant profit. Imagine counting on the Lions to do anything other than be terrible, with three-quarters of a million dollars at stake. He should just check the score after the game rather than put himself through the anguish Lions fans suffer (if there are any left) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, ManuManu said: Reagor never threatened inside to create space. He runs directly to the corner’s outside shoulder, which is fine, if he’s going to get vertical. Instead he fades to the sideline, letting the corner do exactly what he wanted to do. It’s WR 101 stuff. It doesn’t take high level WR play to do it either. Hard to tell on the TV copy because you don't see the release, but he MUST be stronger when he's level with the CB. He shouldn't get pushed out. Did the CB do well? Yes, but he's a WR who gets paid too. I can see Reagor developing into a legitimate WR, or a disappointment. It's taken a lot of WRs 3 years to get it together. At least the physical tools are there (unlike JJAW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, RLC said: 1) We're not getting a 1st rounder, so just root for the Colts to get a top 5 pick 2) I'm sooo happy we don't have to deal with this week to week. It's exhausting. Eagles have their own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Brian Westbrook saw the same thing that most of us saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Why are people blaming Sirianni for no passes to the middle of the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeanMeanGM Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Yeah saw that when it happened. He is a one maybe 2 read guy, but if he has his mind made up to throw deep, he is throwing deep regardless? Look, he had his week 1 sit down after Atlanta with Lurie and Howie, and they said the dink and dunk has to go. Grip it and rip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, ManuManu said: Reagor never threatened inside to create space. He runs directly to the corner’s outside shoulder, which is fine, if he’s going to get vertical. Instead he fades to the sideline, letting the corner do exactly what he wanted to do. It’s WR 101 stuff. It doesn’t take high level WR play to do it either. Need to really see the full route, but that's where threatening the inside shoulder pays huge dividends and likely gets the DB to flip his hips the wrong way... but, he needs to get some space for himself. Just a quick jab inside before moving to the outside might have been enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, downundermike said: Brian Westbrook saw the same thing that most of us saw. Said it during the game, that hop step forward was the difference in the completion... Roll right, set and throw, no crow hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said: Eagles have their own problems. Absolutely. This is a rebuilding/retooling year. Getting more/better picks helps the process! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB52 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, RLC said: I'm a Lions fan tonight. Also, that fan should make at least a $50,000 bet on the Packers to win outright so he's guaranteed significant profit. The big question here is: How much do you hedge? The best price I’m seeing is GB ML -581 at PointsBet. Two problems: 1. How big of a bet will they take? 2. How do you come up with the necessary money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Look, he had his week 1 sit down after Atlanta with Lurie and Howie, and they said the dink and dunk has to go. Grip it and rip it. It'll be interesting the tone that Sirianni and Steichen take with Hurts. He's a first year starter and he's going to have good games and bad games. Objectively Week 1 was a very good performance and Week 2 left a lot to be desired. MNF against the Turds will be very interesting. Under the lights in prime time in front of a national audience, does Hurts stay on script or will he be trying to run more than the RBs? DAL has had a bad defense for the past few seasons but for whatever reason the Eagles rarely put up 35+ on them as other teams routinely do. One would think the Week 1 performance should be closer to what we see, but DAL ate him up last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, SB52 said: The big question here is: How much do you hedge? The best price I’m seeing is GB ML -581 at PointsBet. Two problems: 1. How big of a bet will they take? 2. How do you come up with the necessary money? Great question. You can bet the max at multiple casinos (ex: $10,000 at multiple places), using the parley ticket you have as collateral. Or you can just "sell" your ticket back to MGM at say a 30% profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Why are people blaming Sirianni for no passes to the middle of the field? Good question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphagrand Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 @LeanMeanGM DAL 26, Eagles 17 Pains me to do it, but I picked this game as a loss before the season and I'll stick with that prediction. Without Gallup and with Slay shadowing Cooper I think the Eagles D will contain the DAL offense for the most part. Unfortunately I think the offense will still be frustrating to watch and will cost them another game us fans will say we should have won. Bonus prediction -- Gainwell with a receiving TD, and the defense will force 2+ turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDawk_ASamuel Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, RLC said: I'm a Lions fan tonight. Also, that fan should make at least a $50,000 bet on the Packers to win outright so he's guaranteed significant profit. This is such a tough hedge to do. If you bet $50,000 on Green Bay, you "only" get back around $8,000 since GB is a -620 moneyline favorite. Obviously still a good amount of money, but you typically want to hedge more when your potential payout is over $700,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: MNF against the Turds will be very interesting. Under the lights in prime time in front of a national audience, does Hurts stay on script or will he be trying to run more than the RBs? DAL has had a bad defense for the past few seasons but for whatever reason the Eagles rarely put up 35+ on them as other teams routinely do. One would think the Week 1 performance should be closer to what we see, but DAL ate him up last season. 2 of his 3 turnovers and his inability to sustain drives in the second half cost the Eagles that game. Eagles held the Cowboys without points 4 consecutive drives in a 2 score game, but the Eagles could not move the ball. 4 plays for 33 yards, punt 4 for 12, punt 5 for 3, punt 12 for 70, interception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khani1 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: Bonus prediction -- Gainwell with a receiving TD, and the defense will force 2+ turnovers. If we have 3 turnovers and lose to Dallas by 9, we are a really bad football team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoEagle Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: And even that was on the run to the right. I’m talking about 20 - 30 yard out patterns to the sideline with zip. Those are the big boy throws. Or the slants over the middle, over the linebacker into tight coverage. It's frustrating because it looks like Smith can eat up corners on slant routes. So far, he looks excellent at getting separation. Dallas having good LBs may not be the best time to try and exploit the middle of the field, but at some point, Hurts has to learn to go there. Not to mention Goedert and Ertz should be relatively reliable targets in that area on any given play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill2420 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 hours ago, ManuManu said: Did we not announce the first row as eligible? That play was awful. The only thing I can say that was a positive about what Ward did was the 9ers had to start at the 2-3 yard line. If he throws an INT they start at the 20. But even at that the reward was much better than the risk at that point. Hell he could have even run as hard as he could and maybe bulldozes he way for a TD who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said: It's frustrating because it looks like Smith can eat up corners on slant routes. So far, he looks excellent at getting separation. Dallas having good LBs may not be the best time to try and exploit the middle of the field, but at some point, Hurts has to learn to go there. Not to mention Goedert and Ertz should be relatively reliable targets in that area on any given play. Smith running slants should be the bread and butter of this offense. He excels there. Start with that and build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said: @LeanMeanGM DAL 26, Eagles 17 Pains me to do it, but I picked this game as a loss before the season and I'll stick with that prediction. Without Gallup and with Slay shadowing Cooper I think the Eagles D will contain the DAL offense for the most part. Unfortunately I think the offense will still be frustrating to watch and will cost them another game us fans will say we should have won. Bonus prediction -- Gainwell with a receiving TD, and the defense will force 2+ turnovers. I don't know... giving up 26 is bad. We heard yesterday that the defense was to blame when they only surrendered 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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