Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said: This is such a tough hedge to do. If you bet $50,000 on Green Bay, you "only" get back around $8,000 since GB is a -620 moneyline favorite. Obviously still a good amount of money, but you typically want to hedge more when your potential payout is over $700,000. Perhaps... but getting back $8000 for a $25 bet is still pretty nice return. I'm not a gambler by any means, but it seems that hedging this in some way is the only smart move to make. You want to be a winner either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill2420 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 19 minutes ago, RLC said: Great question. You can bet the max at multiple casinos (ex: $10,000 at multiple places), using the parley ticket you have as collateral. Or you can just "sell" your ticket back to MGM at say a 30% profit. He needs to sell that ticket. Green Bay is gonna destroy the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoEagle Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Ah we made it to page 420.....niiiiiiice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDawk_ASamuel Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said: Perhaps... but getting back $8000 for a $25 bet is still pretty nice return. I'm not a gambler by any means, but it seems that hedging this in some way is the only smart move to make. You want to be a winner either way. 100%. Anything is better than nothing. The other tough part is who knows if this guy has $50,000 laying around on this short of notice to place the wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khani1 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: pothead It's so relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoEagle Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: You have to run an offense that the QB is comfortable with. It all goes back to poor roster construction. Our 3 best pass catchers are guys who thrive in the middle of the field and we drafted a qb in the 2nd round that struggles with those kind of reads/throws. It all points to Lowie. I'll remind everyone, Ertz is still on this team. Sometimes it's easy to forget. But he is. Howie (Lurie by proxy) failed to capitalize on his value 2 years ago and here we are. A bunch of square pegs for round holes. pothead Yes, yes I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill2420 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, downundermike said: Brian Westbrook saw the same thing that most of us saw. Hurts has the same problems he’s always had. He’s a one read guy who can run with average arm strength. He under threw most of his deep shots yesterday. My most hated play was a 3rd down in the 3rd quarter when the game showed the replay of the WRs running their routes and both Smith and Reagor was open for first downs and Hurts who wasn’t under pressure didn’t see either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said: I don't know... giving up 26 is bad. We heard yesterday that the defense was to blame when they only surrendered 17. Who besides Kittle do the 49ers have on offense that's better than who the Cowboys have? I couldn't tell you who their RBs are and the Eagles just played them yesterday. We also can't overlook the loss of BG. He ate up 70% of snaps every week and was in every imaginable package. The ability to kick him inside to create a mismatch is not easily replicated with a guy like Ryan Kerrigan. Derek Barnett led the Eagles DE in snaps yesterday. He's got 3 tackles and another 15 yard penalty to his name this year. Who steps up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoop Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, jwill2420 said: Hurts has the same problems he’s always had. He’s a one read guy who can run with average arm strength. He under threw most of his deep shots yesterday. My most hated play was a 3rd down in the 3rd quarter when the game showed the replay of the WRs running their routes and both Smith and Reagor was open for first downs and Hurts who wasn’t under pressure didn’t see either of them. Careful, people get real touchy when you question his arm strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggles_Phan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, bpac55 said: Who besides Kittle do the 49ers have on offense that's better than who the Cowboys have? I couldn't tell you who their RBs are and the Eagles just played them yesterday. We also can't overlook the loss of BG. He ate up 70% of snaps every week and was in every imaginable package. The ability to kick him inside to create a mismatch is not easily replicated with a guy like Ryan Kerrigan. Derek Barnett led the Eagles DE in snaps yesterday. He's got 3 tackles and another 15 yard penalty to his name this year. Who steps up? That was sarcasm. I'm not optimistic for Monday Night. I am still in denial about BG, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLC Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, bpac55 said: We also can't overlook the loss of BG. He ate up 70% of snaps every week and was in every imaginable package. The ability to kick him inside to create a mismatch is not easily replicated with a guy like Ryan Kerrigan. Derek Barnett led the Eagles DE in snaps yesterday. He's got 3 tackles and another 15 yard penalty to his name this year. Who steps up? I think we're going to miss him so much more than people realize. He's our best run defender at EDGE, the guy who plays the hardest, and does everything asked of him. More Barnett snaps is a significant downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill2420 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Khani1 said: It's so relaxing. 5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said: Yes, yes I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Late to the arm strength debate. I've always been of the opinion Hurts has enough arm to play QB, but it is limited, so he needs to be accurate, with great mechanics and get the throw off precisely in time. If any of the three are slightly off, you are going to get an inconsistent pass like we saw yesterday. You can win with this, but clearly there's more you need to overcome with this approach vs a QB who has above average to elite arm strength. With Hurts, you will never get a throw like this which Herbert does routinely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwill2420 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Late to the arm strength debate. I've always been of the opinion Hurts has enough arm to play QB, but it is limited, so he needs to be accurate, with great mechanics and get the throw off precisely in time. If any of the three are slightly off, you are going to get an inconsistent pass like we saw yesterday. You can win with this, but clearly there's more you need to overcome with this approach vs a QB who has above average to elite arm strength. With Hurts, you will never get a throw like this which Herbert does routinely. Hurts would run on that play for about ten yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEFly Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Overall, the Eagles kept the 49ers from hitting 20. Better than I expected. Need to open the routes up more or force Hurts to accept them. Cowpads like to press so are susceptible on slants, crossing patterns, mesh etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoop Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Late to the arm strength debate. I've always been of the opinion Hurts has enough arm to play QB, but it is limited, so he needs to be accurate, with great mechanics and get the throw off precisely in time. If any of the three are slightly off, you are going to get an inconsistent pass like we saw yesterday. You can win with this, but clearly there's more you need to overcome with this approach vs a QB who has above average to elite arm strength. With Hurts, you will never get a throw like this which Herbert does routinely. That's exactly where I stand. His arm is limited. It's being discussed so heavily in here and is more apparent because his game is flawed in many ways. Can anyone honestly say his arm is "good"? Watch the other 31 starters in this league. I'd be willing to bet, at minimum, 25 of them have a better arm. At minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
315Eagles Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I wish they would trade Flacco and move Minshew up to #2. Have a feeling that with how much Hurts runs around he will get hurt eventually. Rather see Gardner than Flacco out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, BigEFly said: Overall, the Eagles kept the 49ers from hitting 20. Better than I expected. Need to open the routes up more or force Hurts to accept them. Cowpads like to press so are susceptible on slants, crossing patterns, mesh etc. That may be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinfan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Geez, it's a rebuilding year with a QB going in with 4 starts and your top 3 WRs don't have a full NFL season between them. And people are surprised they struggled against a top defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoop Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Just now, downundermike said: That may be a problem It's Sirianni's fault. TATE told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMeanGM Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 315Eagles said: I wish they would trade Flacco and move Minshew up to #2. Have a feeling that with how much Hurts runs around he will get hurt eventually. Rather see Gardner than Flacco out there. I'd rather see Minshew play 49% of the game and Flacco play the other 51% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greend Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: Forgot we also had a dropped pick or two yesterday as well A couple fumbles roll right back to them Perspective is important, I agree with @Connecticut Eagle, Im just glad that we're competitive and look competent enough to compete That seems to be our m.o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDawk_ASamuel Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said: I'd rather see Minshew play 49% of the game and Flacco play the other 51% Strictly from a fan and entertainment standpoint, Flacco is unwatchable. He was at the end of his run in Baltimore, in Denver, with the Jets, and in the preseason last month. Just an awful quarterback to watch. Minshew at least has some juice to him. And if it gets to that point, the season is done anyway so might as well have someone decently fun to watch back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB52 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 46 minutes ago, RLC said: Great question. You can bet the max at multiple casinos (ex: $10,000 at multiple places), using the parley ticket you have as collateral. Or you can just "sell" your ticket back to MGM at say a 30% profit. That’s fascinating. I never knew your parlay ticket could, in fact, be used as collateral. Just nitpicking, but I’d be shocked if BetMGM would offer anything close to 30% given the implied no-vig probability of a Lions victory is roughly 15% (for example, +550 is 15.38% implied odds of winning). Is it possible at most books to cash out for less? I think my strategy would be to guarantee myself $10,000 with a pregame hedge, then hope to find some in-game spots at a much better price. Off topic, but have you heard the Mattress Mack story? Also, there is a hedge fund guy who posts these sorts of parlays on Twitter fairly often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpac55 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 A couple of FA DE available. Trent Murphy- 30, ultimate hustle guy Vic Beasley- 28, tweener but a guy who can rush the passer Noah Spence- 27, bust but would love to be the team to make it click for him Ifeadi Odenigbo- 27, had 7 sacks 2 years ago Daeshon Hall- 26, always liked his potential. Hasn't done much however. Joe Ostman- he healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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