1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Come on.  It's not like we will get real answers by talking about or speculating in here.  You think Lane Johnson is reading this thread and then is like, "well F.....some of the bloggers are curious so I guess I should spill the beans".  

 

Talking about it in a forum like this is not "prying".  🙃

People are complaining about the Eagles being tight-lipped about it.   Seems you want someone else to do the prying for you.

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Apples and oranges.   Care to take a guess as to what position Driscoll played in college for Auburn?  

Yes, that's right... he played RT in the SEC.  In other words, it wasn't in any way a foreign concept for him to play RT, even on short notice.    He also played there last year as a rookie.   Dillard, by comparison, had never played the right side before.  It's not as easy as folks would think to just pick up playing the other side.  If you think it is... try eating some spaghetti tonight, but instead of twirling with your dominant hand... do it with your off hand.  Or just try cutting a steak with your off hand, rather than your dominant hand.    

As for the penalties... get out of here with that.   He was run blocking as per the design of the play and the QB was slow to deliver the ball.  So, they called him for illegal man downfield, because there is no penalty for 'slow to diagnose a play'.   If there were, the penalty would have been on Hurts.

Pffft, some of us are natural eaters. I learned to use chopsticks while on vacation because there was no other option. Use em like a champ now.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, they basically said exactly that.  He left for 'personal reasons'.  The return as soon as he is able is implied.  This is Lane Johnson, and he left on Game day.  He's a gamer, I don't see him leaving because he decided that he needed to be there with his daughter to sell Girl Scout cookies.  

I’m guessing it’s probably a family related issue. If he left Philly he might have gone back to Oklahoma where his family lives to be there during that time. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There is a stark difference between a good starting left tackle and just competent. I don’t think Dillard has been good. Hes been competent in mailata’s absence. Whereas mailata has been dominant when he’s played. Vaitai was competent when they started him at LT.  

Dillard you won’t know exactly what he is as a starter for a full 17 games until 2023 when you finally get the chance cause they restructured lane Johnson‘s contract and mailata is the better left tackle than him today and going forward.

 what if they draft a tackle in the next two years. They trust Stoutland build him up so that he is a competent right tackle. At that point if dillard is just competent,  I don’t have to pay dillard to be a competent left tackle. Also I can keep mailata at left tackle where i think he’s a pro bowl caliber left tackle and not even mess with that.  And I’m getting the same competency that I’m getting from dillard at LT but at RT and I have my better LT starting. The eagles didn’t pay $10 for vaitai who I’d argue is competent at LT but not necessarily a good LT  

 

How would we know with ole look at 1 guy and run Hurts?  I could play left tackle for him. (Just one play and then an ambulance would have to scrape me off the turf)

6 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Panthers adding to their Defense. Can't wait to see how we stack up with this team this weekend. They added Gilmore, Horn and Henderson at CB this year. Man, when can Lurie finally throw in the towel and get a new GM with full say... This is really depressing 

Forgot they added Henderson.  Total gamble that could pay off huge for them.  Gilmore and Henderson will hold the spots this year as Horn heals up from his surgery.  Henderson and Horn next year.  

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

There is a stark difference between a good starting left tackle and just competent. I don’t think Dillard has been good. Hes been competent in mailata’s absence. Whereas mailata has been dominant when he’s played. Vaitai was competent when they started him at LT.  

Dillard you won’t know exactly what he is as a starter for a full 17 games until 2023 when you finally get the chance cause they restructured lane Johnson‘s contract and mailata is the better left tackle than him today and going forward.

 what if they draft a tackle in the next two years. They trust Stoutland build him up so that he is a competent right tackle. At that point if dillard is just competent,  I don’t have to pay dillard to be a competent left tackle. Also I can keep mailata at left tackle where i think he’s a pro bowl caliber left tackle and not even mess with that.  And I’m getting the same competency that I’m getting from dillard at LT but at RT and I have my better LT starting. The eagles didn’t pay $10 for vaitai who I’d argue is competent at LT but not necessarily a good LT  

 

The sample size for Dillard is still incredibly small. He could merely be competent, he could be good, or he could even turn into better than good. Like you say, Stoutland is here coaching him up and I'd trust his assessment over anybody else's. Considering Lane's health, even if he comes back this week or next week and Mailata resumes at LT, I think it's near 100% we'll see Dillard at LT again this year. 

But most are seemingly declaring him a bust based on his play at RT for one game. Which is bogus. @justrelax seems to think he played well at LT, and with my own eyes he looked good. As noted above, Stoutland flipping Mailata to RT for this week seems to think that's a better setup than Mailata at LT and whoever at RT. 

2 minutes ago, greend said:

How would we know with ole look at 1 guy and run Hurts?  I could play left tackle for him. (Just one play and then an ambulance would have to scrape me off the turf)

Lol it might actually be better that Mailata plays RT. Considering Hurts loves to roll and throw to his right so much....

20 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I think Herbig is an ERFA next year, isn’t he?

Dillard is a better LT than Driscoll is a RT.  If Lane isn’t available, it should be Dillard at LT and Mailata at RT.  Figured after last year that those could be our bookends for years.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the future OL isn’t Dillard, Seumalo, Dickerson, Driscoll, Mailata. 

RFA. This is his third year on the 53. 

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 It's not as easy as folks would think to just pick up playing the other side.  If you think it is... try eating some spaghetti tonight, but instead of twirling with your dominant hand... do it with your off hand.  Or just try cutting a steak with your off hand, rather than your dominant hand.    

The ten percent of us that are left handed have little problem doing things with our right hand because so many things are designed for right handlers.  Muscle memory is what has to be overcome.  Good points but the handedness isn’t a fully accurate demonstration. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

How would we know with ole look at 1 guy and run Hurts?  I could play left tackle for him. (Just one play and then an ambulance would have to scrape me off the turf)

Lol. 

All I’m saying is i thought vaitai was competent in a lot of his starts here (particularly 2017… 2018 wasn’t nearly as good) which were as good as dillard in these previous two games. And he would get crushed on here.

I don’t want to move my pro bowl caliber LT to right tackle and hope he’s as great there to make way for dillard if he is just competent. If dillard is just competent not great or good, I trust stoutland enough to draft and develop a competent RT. I’m not giving the job to dillard to just be competent at LT and have to pay him. 

im not saying he can’t become good or great. This goes to both sides of the fence. One side says the negative people bury him and says he sucks. The other side overrates a performance to try to justify the pick. He was competent. Very much like vaitai in 2017. Vaitai got better as the season continued so maybe that happens. I can’t say good because mailata was played good and he wasn’t as good as mailata. I have and always viewed it this way, he isn’t going to live up to that first round pick value if he is just competent. You need more than just he didn’t look completely awful. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol. 

All I’m saying is i thought vaitai was competent in a lot of his starts here (particularly 2017… 2018 wasn’t nearly as good) which were as good as dillard in these previous two games. And he would get crushed on here.

I don’t want to move my pro bowl caliber LT to right tackle and hope he’s as great there to make way for dillard if he is just competent. If dillard is just competent not great or good, I trust stoutland enough to draft and develop a competent RT. I’m not giving the job to dillard to just be competent at LT and have to pay him. 

im not saying he can’t become good or great. This goes to both sides of the fence. One side says the negative people bury him and says he sucks. The other side overrates a performance to try to justify the pick. He was competent. Very much like vaitai in 2017. Vaitai got better as the season continued so maybe that happens. I can’t say good because mailata was played good and he wasn’t as good as mailata. I have and always viewed it this way, he isn’t going to live up to that first round pick value if he is just competent. You need more than just he didn’t look completely awful. 

Which would you rather have?

LT Mailata   RT Driscoll

 

LT Dillard    RT  Mailata

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lol. 

All I’m saying is i thought vaitai was competent in a lot of his starts here (particularly 2017… 2018 wasn’t nearly as good) which were as good as dillard in these previous two games. And he would get crushed on here.

I don’t want to move my pro bowl caliber LT to right tackle and hope he’s as great there to make way for dillard if he is just competent. If dillard is just competent not great or good, I trust stoutland enough to draft and develop a competent RT. I’m not giving the job to dillard to just be competent at LT and have to pay him. 

im not saying he can’t become good or great. This goes to both sides of the fence. One side says the negative people bury him and says he sucks. The other side overrates a performance to try to justify the pick. He was competent. Very much like vaitai in 2017. Vaitai got better as the season continued so maybe that happens. I can’t say good because mailata was played good and he wasn’t as good as mailata. I have and always viewed it this way, he isn’t going to live up to that first round pick value if he is just competent. You need more than just he didn’t look completely awful. 

I thought he looked pretty good at l.t.. I'm not @justrelax though

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8 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

The sample size for Dillard is still incredibly small. He could merely be competent, he could be good, or he could even turn into better than good. Like you say, Stoutland is here coaching him up and I'd trust his assessment over anybody else's. Considering Lane's health, even if he comes back this week or next week and Mailata resumes at LT, I think it's near 100% we'll see Dillard at LT again this year. 

But most are seemingly declaring him a bust based on his play at RT for one game. Which is bogus. @justrelax seems to think he played well at LT, and with my own eyes he looked good. As noted above, Stoutland flipping Mailata to RT for this week seems to think that's a better setup than Mailata at LT and whoever at RT. 

I don’t disagree with the last part because they are forced to do so cause Driscoll is better at guard then RT imo. However i don’t want to permanently move my pro bowl caliber left tackle to right.  

Honestly why happens if mailata is not nearly as good at right tackle as he is at LT? So I’m downgrading at two positions so we can have competency at LT going forward. 

24 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Where you been, you pathetic loser

15 minutes ago, greend said:

Pffft, some of us are natural eaters. I learned to use chopsticks while on vacation because there was no other option. Use em like a champ now.

Point is... first time will not be nearly as good as your dominant hand.  Lol

17 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, they basically said exactly that.  He left for 'personal reasons'.  The return as soon as he is able is implied.  This is Lane Johnson, and he left on Game day.  He's a gamer, I don't see him leaving because he decided that he needed to be there with his daughter to sell Girl Scout cookies.  

I don’t want or need to know why Lane is missing as to his personal life.  I just have little trust left because of the Eagles secrecy under Howie that the "implication " he will return as soon as he is able actually is there.  Remember how the agents rated Howie in that survey?  I think fans feel the same way. 

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Which would you rather have?

LT Mailata   RT Driscoll

 

LT Dillard    RT  Mailata

We talking about this week or long term? This week I’d do dillard and mailata. However long term I rather keep mailata at LT where i think he’s a pro bowler and have stoutland draft and develop a right tackle who can play as well as dillard (who i think has been competent so far not good). 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Which would you rather have?

LT Mailata   RT Driscoll

 

LT Dillard    RT  Mailata

Option #1

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

The sample size for Dillard is still incredibly small. He could merely be competent, he could be good, or he could even turn into better than good. Like you say, Stoutland is here coaching him up and I'd trust his assessment over anybody else's. Considering Lane's health, even if he comes back this week or next week and Mailata resumes at LT, I think it's near 100% we'll see Dillard at LT again this year. 

But most are seemingly declaring him a bust based on his play at RT for one game. Which is bogus. @justrelax seems to think he played well at LT, and with my own eyes he looked good. As noted above, Stoutland flipping Mailata to RT for this week seems to think that's a better setup than Mailata at LT and whoever at RT. 

Given the comment someone made about Dillard's run blocking, I went over every running play against KC other than Hurts' runs. On every one Dillard blocked well. Granted, it was only 11 plays but that's the sample size and it is what it is. Nor did he get bullrushed on passing plays. And to repeat, the holding call was bogus.

In the course of watching those runs I was struck by how badly Sanders played. He missed several really big holes. Heck, on the first play from scrimmage he had an huge cutback lane on the OZ to the left and he never saw it. Dilllard and Dickerson pushed their men all the way to the sideline and if Sanders just cuts back instead of drifting all the way to the sideline he picks up anywhere from 6-8 yards. Instead he ran into the pile.

40 minutes ago, greend said:

He sucks, but he's probably still better than our guys

Thats hard to tell with our bend and break style of defense. But you are most likely correct

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Option 1 please.  And it’s not close.  

I'm all over the place with OL, clearly I'm running with all sorts of scenarios today.

Another thing to consider is that next year is Dillard's last year before his 5th year option whereas Driscoll is signed through 2023.  The Eagles haven't made the best decisions with 5th year options as of late.

It's going to cost a lot more to sign Dillard to a 2nd contract/pick up his option that it will be to run with Driscoll for another 2 years.  Maybe Lane is here next year while Driscoll plays his 3rd year as the 6th OL/T3.  They could re-sign Driscoll to a backup OL contract and when Lane moves in, he's your starting RT at a huge discount.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

I thought he looked pretty good at l.t.. I'm not @justrelax though

How do you think mailata played the first couple weeks before the injury? That to me is good LT. I don’t think he’s played near mailata’s level.

also we don’t know if dillard holds up for 17 games. He might just be a quality spot starter backup. 

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m guessing it’s probably a family related issue. If he left Philly he might have gone back to Oklahoma where his family lives to be there during that time. 

Lane is from Texas.  Think he has a ranch there.

30 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Here's to hoping he tweaks it again. 

I hope he plays and exposes every weakness on that defense so it's clear to all involved a Band-Aid won't fix the issues. They need to invest some high picks.