Thomson should’ve pulled painter once they pinch hit Harris. You could see painter was laboring

This team just can’t stop losing

Just now, BirdsFanBill said:

This team just can’t stop losing

This loss is on Thomson. Painter was clearly laboring after the walk. Instead he lets him stay out there to face a .318 hitter in Harris.

The new Manager will be Mattingly.

I pretty much watched the Food Network most of the night, Mike.

5 minutes ago, LacesOut said:

The new Manager will be Mattingly.

I pretty much watched the Food Network most of the night, Mike.

I watched The Equalizer 2 and 3 - didn’t watch a single minute of either the Phils or the Sixers - already knew how both games were gonna go

24 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

I watched The Equalizer 2 and 3 - didn’t watch a single minute of either the Phils or the Sixers - already knew how both games were gonna go

Never thought I’d say this… at least we have the Flyers

painters gonna get the brunt of this because his ERA is going to reflect it, but marsh was awful on that play. That is a ball that could be caught if marsh took a better route to the ball and didn’t completely miss time it. Add on the fact, Harris who is hitting 354 against right handed pitching and just 200 against left-handed. A LHP should’ve been warming up knowing where they were in the game and a pivotal moment.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

I watched The Equalizer 2 and 3 - didn’t watch a single minute of either the Phils or the Sixers - already knew how both games were gonna go

Denzel would make a good cleanup hitter compared to this slop

Painter has some work to do.

The Phillies stand alone with the worst record and run dif in baseball.

I don’t have a realistic sense of what kind of prospects it would take (Phillies giving up) to get Harper, Schwarber, Turner, and Nola contracts moved. But that would shave multiple years off the rebuild.

I wouldn’t touch their Painter/Miller/Renteria/Wood/Crawford tier. But I’d probably give up a combination of anyone underneath that to move these guys.

making history!!!

It’s definitely comical at this point but eventually they’ll win a game by accident, right?

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t have a realistic sense of what kind of prospects it would take (Phillies giving up) to get Harper, Schwarber, Turner, and Nola contracts moved. But that would shave multiple years off the rebuild.

I wouldn’t touch their Painter/Miller/Renteria/Wood/Crawford tier. But I’d probably give up a combination of anyone underneath that to move these guys.

could deal Harper. Someone would take that contract and he’s still capable of being good. Just not great. Plus he may hit 500 HRs down the road and can make money off that from that perspective. Schwarber is what he is. I’m guessing probably could find a team to take it. The reds supposedly offered more this offseason. They might be willing too.

Really Turner and Nola you’d have to dump prospects into it. Both have too many years left with the amount of money they are owed. Imo nola is actually worse. Cause he’s just not even useful anymore. Hasn’t been since start of 2025. I’d add they’d have to accept being traded as i believe Nola and Turner hit the veteran mark where he can block any trade.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

could deal Harper. Someone would take that contract and he’s still capable of being good. Just not great. Plus he may hit 500 HRs down the road and can make money off that from that perspective. Schwarber is what he is. I’m guessing probably could find a team to take it. The reds supposedly offered more this offseason. They might be willing too.

Really Turner and Nola you’d have to dump prospects into it. Both have too many years left with the amount of money they are owed. Imo nola is actually worse. Cause he’s just not even useful anymore. Hasn’t been since start of 2025. I’d add they’d have to accept being traded as i believe Nola and Turner hit the veteran mark where he can block any trade.

I think Turner is good enough and Nola still eats enough innings that we’d have to dump prospects…but not particularly high end ones.

As things plunge further into the depths and these guys start getting boo’d more and more, I’m not sure they’d be so opposed to trades.

Ideally, they would fire DD before the trade deadline and bring in some interim zero F’s given executioner to systematically deconstruct the team.

I think Turner is good enough and Nola still eats enough innings that we’d have to dump prospects…but not particularly high end ones.

4 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

As things plunge further into the depths and these guys start getting boo’d more and more, I’m not sure they’d be so opposed to trades.

Ideally, they would fire DD before the trade deadline and bring in some interim zero F’s given executioner to systematically deconstruct the team.

The issue with Turner is more when is his major decline coming. he’s not playing well right now so it makes it harder with the amount of years has left. Probably could find a team but I’m guessing the Phillies would have to eat part of his salary.

Debatable if nola is still capable of eating innings anymore. Only got thru 6 in 2 of his 5 starts so far and given up 3+ in 4 of 5. In 2025 he gave up 4+ in 10 of 17 starts and made it thru 6 innings in 8 of 17 starts. Only pitched 94.1 innings in 2025 due to injury which might be catching up with him due to the amount of innings he’s pitched over his career. This year he’s on pace for 171 innings and that’s if he stays healthy. Would be the lowest for a full season of starts since his rookie year.

One of the things I hated when people brought up about his contract when he signed it, was he was a workhorse that could eat innings and never misses time. At his age maybe that continues but whether he’s a fireball pitcher or not the amount of innings he had accumulated that more likely would eventually catch up to him when he started to get into his mid 30s. frankly it kind of already started. It’s why I said at the time if they’re gonna give him more than four or five years of that contract, they were better off just going after Blake Snell. giving him a three-year contract where they overpaid because they could’ve gotten out of that contract much sooner than giving 6-7 year deal to Nola

Curious to see how wheeler looks tonight. Frankly need him to be vintage wheeler for multiple reasons. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Curious to see how wheeler looks tonight. Frankly need him to be vintage wheeler for multiple reasons. 

He’s gonna get shelled - gone by the 5th

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

He’s gonna get shelled - gone by the 5th

Lofty expectations you think he goes 5

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Lofty expectations you think he goes 5

I mean Topper leaves his guys out there far too long most nights so yeah it’s not stretch to say he gives up 6-7 runs thru 5

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

I mean Topper leaves his guys out there far too long most nights so yeah it’s not stretch to say he gives up 6-7 runs thru 5

Imo if they don’t win this wheeler game then i can’t see the Phillies not firing people on Monday. Like it’s not just they are losing. It’s the starting pitching has been bad. The hitting has been atrocious. And their defense has been sloppy. Defense in this streak has actually cost them 3 wins.

Is there anyone left that still believes in these losers

1 hour ago, Joe Shades 73 said:

Is there anyone left that still believes in these losers

Nope

Harper should hire Microsoft copilot as his agent LOL

"Bryce Harper is one of the most accomplished and influential baseball players of his generation"

"Harper isn’t just a star — he’s a franchise cornerstone, a clubhouse leader, and one of MLB’s most marketable players. His combination of power, intensity, and postseason heroics has made him the face of the Phillies’ modern era."