July 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: if no one is open throw it at a receivers feet,he had ZERO clue where his receivers were and threw into an open field,that's JV stuff. A Qb should be able to throw in the general direction of any receiver even if he is blindfolded Clearly he got caught. Not the first time…and he’s not the only QB it’s happened to. Tough play. Under that kind of extreme duress I wouldn’t teach my QB to chuck it towards defenders too much though…bad things really happen then.
July 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: But truthfully this is what Hurts fairly routinely does…is escape. So I wouldn’t take that part of his game away from him. Many times he actually converts into big plays by doing so…whether by running it himself or chucking it deep after the receiver gets open. That is true,my point is if you see you aren't escaping and have to throw it away throw it in a receivers general direction and you don't get flagged. he was in the EZ he needed to know where to throw it away and he did not
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Clearly he got caught. Not the first time…and he’s not the only QB it’s happened to. Tough play. Under that kind of extreme duress I wouldn’t teach my QB to chuck it towards defenders too much though…bad things really happen then. It happens,the point is learn from it. See he did the same thing in the AZ game then again in TB,so he didn't learn from the AZ mistake
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: It happens,the point is learn from it. See he did the same thing in the AZ game then again in TB,so he didn't learn from the AZ mistake "Ok coach I screwed up,how or what can I do to fix it" It's not hard,just ask and improve
July 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Well then see the blame and how Hurts needs to correct it,that is how you progress.He is going to be bull rushed and he needs to have a response other than giving points away Usually he escapes…. Or most of the Oline blocks…or somebody gets open
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: "Ok coach I screwed up,how or what can I do to fix it" It's not hard,just ask and improve Field presence/vision or whatever name you attach to it. he needs to be more aware of where EVERY receiver on the field will be EVERY play, that is his job to do
July 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: That is true,my point is if you see you aren't escaping and have to throw it away throw it in a receivers general direction and you don't get flagged. he was in the EZ he needed to know where to throw it away and he did not He was clearly just trying to throw it away…didn’t make it
July 9, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: "Ok coach I screwed up,how or what can I do to fix it" It's not hard,just ask and improve Answer? Expect whole supporting cast to fail always and take the snap and get in the fetal position sucking your thumb?
July 9, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Usually he escapes…. Or most of the Oline blocks…or somebody gets open He should not have to try to do everything himself,we have the weapons,we have the O line and he needs to use them. if there is a break down,you need to know what to do,make the decision and get the ball out in the general direction of someone,but see he didn't know where they were and threw into an open field. you can't do that it will get flagged every time
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Answer? Expect whole supporting cast to fail always and take the snap and get in the fetal potion sucking your thumb? Yes that's it
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, cunninghamtheman said: Answer? Expect whole supporting cast to fail always and take the snap and get in the fetal potion sucking your thumb? That would have been better than giving points away and giving them the ball back
July 9, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Field presence/vision or whatever name you attach to it. he needs to be more aware of where EVERY receiver on the field will be EVERY play, that is his job to do 1 read and panic is not an offensive game plan
July 9, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Answer? Expect whole supporting cast to fail always and take the snap and get in the fetal potion sucking your thumb? Brady would stand in there and make you PAY
July 9, 20241 yr Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: 1 read and panic is not an offensive game plan The flaw I see.... he has been able to run away from everyone his whole life...it's why he thought he could pump fake and get away with it.
July 9, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, joemas6 said: The flaw I see.... he has been able to run away from everyone his whole life...it's why he thought he could pump fake and get away with it. Yeah as Ham said usually he can do that,but after the pump fake when he knew he was in trouble is where the mistake happened. You cant run straight back,take the sack and get another play. he tries to do too much himself instead of using the tools he has IMO
July 9, 20241 yr Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Yeah as Ham said usually he can do that,but after the pump fake when he knew he was in trouble is where the mistake happened. You cant run straight back,take the sack and get another play. he tries to do too much himself instead of using the tools he has IMO You can clearly see he had no idea where his receivers were on the field
July 9, 20241 yr Author The rules say the receiver needs to be "in the vicinity" and he throws where there is nobody even close. He has to know where these guys are. He should be able to throw within 5-6 yards or his receivers blindfolded. There is no reason to throw into an empty field. That's the brain game
July 9, 20241 yr Author That is my issue it's 1 read,then he has no idea where reads 2,3,4 are on the field and he needs to do that
July 9, 20241 yr Author Hurts won't be perfect, nor do I expect him to be,what I expect is that he learns to be smarter. That would be progress for me. Show me you at least know where your guys are on their routes on the field,that's your job
July 9, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Brady would stand in there and make you PAY Yeah Brady sure did a bunch of things. I’m not having expectations of Hurts achieving Brady levels. Gotta have much more realistic expectations and planning than those thoughts. Hurts will never be Tom Brady.
July 9, 20241 yr I believe the plan should be based on Hurts being very good and accentuate his strengths. If you are basing any plans on him being Hall of Fame level…probably be disappointed. I do believe if we put a franchise around him he can be a part of a championship. That’s all I ask.
July 9, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I believe the plan should be based on Hurts being very good and accentuate his strengths. If you are basing any plans on him being Hall of Fame level…probably be disappointed. I do believe if we put a franchise around him he can be a part of a championship. That’s all I ask. hurts one strength ... on the football field, not for the movie you want to write, but the TANGIBLE thing.... is that he runs well. so exactly what we have all been saying, and are concerned about. There hasn't been a Superbowl winning QB whose offense was based on his running. But No Mas there is so much more that goes into it.... nope, I'm not talking about his sparkling personality and him as a human being... I'm talking about what he can do on the field. My concern, since he was a pee wee... he runs the ball. (most combined this and that) it's fantasy football... it doesn't translate to Superbowls. Not by itself. So I don't care about his running accomplishments... for the Eagles to win the SB, his ability to read a defense and make throws is what needs to improve, so that they can run more offense. As you said, the league has caught up to the read option.
July 9, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I believe the plan should be based on Hurts being very good and accentuate his strengths. If you are basing any plans on him being Hall of Fame level…probably be disappointed. I do believe if we put a franchise around him he can be a part of a championship. That’s all I ask. Again... the 10 players around him are arguably the best in the league. Why do you take this personally? As I stated, if Hurts is the 9th, 10th, 11th best QB in the world.... plus all these intangibles that you say he has... then this should be an elite offense. The game is offense today. This should translate into being a very good team. Especially when you look at the schedule.
July 9, 20241 yr The 11th best talented QB in the world.... with extreme intangibles.... should thrive in Philly in 2024. My issue... can this QB play NFL QB as the passer... the full time passer who can just use the running as a tool, not as the basis of his play. If so, then we are in great shape. I don't see any reason other than if the QB fails to do this... and obvious injury... that our offense shouldn't be elite level.
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