Just now, NCiggles said:

Why are you trying to kill his trade value. What if @HazletonEagle is Dianna Russini or her husband?

LOL. Howie is going to extort the Patriots. So not worried. This deal has been done for months. So it's really after the fact talking about it in my mind.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nick, in his heart of hearts, is a high school football coach running a wing-t offense.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Are we the only team in the NFL allowed to have those positions on the field? I just fail to grasp how our complement of weapons is suddenly special when it sure as hell wasn't scaring anyone last year.

You are kind of changing the argument. All I asked was why you left out the full offensive skill players.

Barkley is one of the top RBs in the NFL so yeah that's different than most teams RBs. Goedert was a red zone threat and had a lot of TDs. Last year the issues were coaching and O line, not skill players. I mean they fired Patullo, brought in Mannion and Grizzard and are completely changing schemes and added 4 new WRs to the group and 2 new TEs.

We haven't seen the new offense at all yet. On paper, they have weapons. Last year the offense obviously had a lot of issues, yet they still have two 1,000 yard receivers. Goedert had 11 TDs. Barkley rushed for 1,140 yards despite the O line struggles, which was his 4th best rushing yards in his career. Patullo was predictable and awful. And O line injuries were a detriment.

I'm excited to see the new coaching, scheme, and personnel. A lot of question marks. But they have a very talented roster.

12 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Because you disagree with it.

While it is true that I disagree with it, your arguments fall under their own weight. How will Wicks and Lemon cause congestion? And much egregiously, almost no one in the blog had anything positive to say about JJAW. I strain to recall a single positive from anyone though I’m sure there were a few. We are all entitled to our rhetorical flourishes, you included.

The video of Lemon looked like he could play all over. Impression I got from a lot of posts was that he was strictly slot

I'm feeling a lot more comfortable about the pick even though I wanted Oline, DE, or S

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

We really going to pretend that a Smith, Wicks, Lemon wr corps is scaring defenses? They’ll be stacking the box more than they already do.

Most teams don’t have Ss as fast as Smith and Lemon or LBs as fast a Stowers, Saquon and Bigsby (or Shipley). Lemon, Smith are very hard to cover. Forget you love of 4.3 speed. It’s breaks, moves, and body control/shielding that create most separation. Wicks is pretty good at that. AJ Brown doesn’t create separation with speed. He creates it with breaks and body control and his late hands. Stack the box at your own risk.

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Oh no! Ex-fringe-NFL player throws Super Bowl winning head coach under the bus ..... I wonder how Greg Ward feels.

11 minutes ago, just relax said:

While it is true that I disagree with it, your arguments fall under their own weight. How will Wicks and Lemon cause congestion? And much egregiously, almost no one in the blog had anything positive to say about JJAW. I strain to recall a single positive from anyone though I’m sure there were a few. We are all entitled to our rhetorical flourishes, you included.

Strain harder then.

11 minutes ago, just relax said:

While it is true that I disagree with it, your arguments fall under their own weight. How will Wicks and Lemon cause congestion? And much egregiously, almost no one in the blog had anything positive to say about JJAW. I strain to recall a single positive from anyone though I’m sure there were a few. We are all entitled to our rhetorical flourishes, you included.

I had positive things to day about the JJAW pick, but even I at the time wanted a different type of WR. I knew he wasnt what we needed.

10 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Most teams don’t have Ss as fast as Smith and Lemon or LBs as fast a Stowers, Saquon and Bigsby (or Shipley). Lemon, Smith are very hard to cover. Forget you love of 4.3 speed. It’s breaks, moves, and body control/shielding that create most separation. Wicks is pretty good at that. AJ Brown doesn’t create separation with speed. He creates it with breaks and body control and his late hands. Stack the box at your own risk.

Teams did just fine covering Wicks his entire career. I don’t expect that to change.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Strain harder then.

I do think I was the only one who had anything positive to say about JJAW during that draft.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Teams did just fine covering Wicks his entire career. I don’t expect that to change.

Wicks is the new Jabar Gaffney.

58 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

NFL Receiver Scores - ESPN Analytics

NFL Receiver Scores - ESPN Analytics

Models and data visualization from ESPN Analytics. NBA & NFL Draft, schedule analysis, receiver scores and more.

Ranks NFL pass catchers on a few categories and then overall.

Som dubious names in that top 20

I wonder if there are conditions on the Greenard pick that they get the lower of the 3rd round picks but get to have our 3rd for now until the comp is awarded.

Few commentators are talking about the Eagles getting Reid from the Saints. We've had luck in the past with DBs from NO.

40 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I liked Scott, but there may be some sour grapes there as Nick really declined to use him.

Just now, BigEFly said:

I liked Scott, but there may be some sour grapes there as Nick really declined to use him.

Probably. I also agree with him that Nick is a big problem

20 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I do think I was the only one who had anything positive to say about JJAW during that draft.

I spent enough time arguing with enough people about how terrible he was going to be to say this is far from true. You are the only one owning it now.

In fairness, he was highly productive in his last year of college. And was involved in the UN or some bs like that.

17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I wonder if there are conditions on the Greenard pick that they get the lower of the 3rd round picks but get to have our 3rd for now until the comp is awarded.

Trading for Phillips essentially let us push a 3rd rounder from 2026 to 2027 in a better draft. I know he didn't put us over the edge but that secondary gain was awesome.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

oh my God... that was absolutely golden

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I spent enough time arguing with enough people about how terrible he was going to be to say this is far from true. You are the only one owning it now.

In fairness, he was highly productive in his last year of college. And was involved in the UN or some bs like that.

I was really impressed by his contested catch ability. I hear the term these days, but I think I coined the term combat catches to say his contested catch ability transcends anyone elses. He wasnt just making catches in tight coverage. He was often catching the ball despite blatant pass interference happening to him. Then, when he ran a time in the 4.4s I thought he had even more potential rather than a slow contested catch guy.

There were a few stats on like PFF or wherever showing some very impressive advanced stats.

I hyped him before the draft.

Once the eagles made the pick, my first post on here was, oh man... I didnt want him here I wanted a speed WR. Or something along those lines.

But then I went in to telling people he would actually be good even though he wasnt my preference.

I think part a lot of his problem was more lacking the mentality of a football player, and having divided attention.

I responded to a post of yours in another thread that listed examples of guys with split careers and it never works out. Chad Hall, Jeremy Bloom, and Devon Allen all at the WR position, and of course Danny Watkins. You can be a part time NFL player. Working in politics worked for him in college, but you cant do the NFL unless you are 100% in.