Just now, shlo said:

And Mailata was a competitive athlete in another sport before coming over. the only clips I've seen of Bernard is standstill dunking.

Which is why Weru might actually have a better shot as developing as a DE in 2 years

24 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

2nd and 3rd rd pick could take longer (or not) as that's the area where the guaranteed money has shifted a bit year to year so they could wait to see others sign near the slot

James-Newby is the only lefty.

I don't think anyone is expecting anything of Bernard but if nothing else it'll be a fun gamble to follow. It's much more interesting to watch him in the 4th quarter of a preseason game(assuming he plays) than some John Doe TE or off ball LB taken in the 7th round. How often do you have a lot of interest in seeing how a 7th rounder turns out.

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Which is why Weru might actually have a better shot as developing as a DE in 2 years

Exactly my thinking too.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Part of it but the bigger part was they made the trade with the Saints in 2022 when they traded 2 1st round picks (16 &19) for pick 18 and a third, a 2023 first and 2024 second round pick.

Howie shifted draft capital into future years which got us the 10th overall pick the following year which put us in position to even have a shot at drafting Carter. Our original pick in 2023 was #31 which became Nolan Smith.

Howie had picked up an extra first in 2022 by making the trade with Miami/SF in 2021.

I know the Saints trade included the Indy 2022 first from the Wentz trade. But....if you squint your eyes and disregard the specifics, you could say that he traded down from #6 to #10 in 2021 and walked away with DeVonta and Carter.

26 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I think the noise around Bernard is going to be much ado about nothing. Hope I'm wrong obviously

I don't know how it will end up, but it used to be low key like they're taking a chance, kick the tires, develop and see if anything comes of it. Now because Mailata was a huge success, that's the comparison which is unfair. Media and fans are hyping up Uar, going crazy over his athletic traits and there will be a lot of scrutiny. With any player from the international program they need to treat it with intriguing potential but pump the brakes a little because it's still a gamble. They're still going against people that have been playing football their whole lives, and plenty of those players don't make it in the NFL. Because if Uar or any others don't work out, or are just ok but the standard and expectation is Mailata that's unfair and could hurt future prospects chances.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't know how it will end up, but it used to be low key like they're taking a chance, kick the tires, develop and see if anything comes of it. Now because Mailata was a huge success, that's the comparison which is unfair. Media and fans are hyping up Uar, going crazy over his athletic traits and there will be a lot of scrutiny. With any player from the international program they need to treat it with intriguing potential but pump the brakes a little because it's still a gamble. They're still going against people that have been playing football their whole lives, and plenty of those players don't make it in the NFL. Because if Uar or any others don't work out, or are just ok but the standard and expectation is Mailata that's unfair and could hurt future prospects chances.

They did it to distract us from Baun and Campbell picking off every Hurts throw over the middle.

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think anyone is expecting anything of Bernard but if nothing else it'll be a fun gamble to follow. It's much more interesting to watch him in the 4th quarter of a preseason game(assuming he plays) than some John Doe TE or off ball LB taken in the 7th round. How often do you have a lot of interest in seeing how a 7th rounder turns out.

I think it’s more likely a fun story on draft day and some good media. I don’t think there will be much to watch football-wise at all

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I think it’s more likely a fun story on draft day and some good media. I don’t think there will be much to watch football-wise at all

That's not exactly going out on a limb, the odds were always heavily that he'd never turn into anything, let alone a great player. Most players even with football experience don't become great players. The unknown makes it a far more interesting and exciting pick than your run of the mill 7th rounder though. People will tune in just to see what the dude looks like late in a preseason game if he plays when otherwise, many fans would have checked out of the game at that point. If for nothing else, it's an entertaining pick that most people otherwise wouldn't care about a 7th rounder.

15 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I dont understand why this year everyone forgot how future picks were valued...

We have all followed the team through many offseasons here....

Dont forget how Bill B was infamous for trading 2nds for future 1sts. That only worked for him because teams wanted those 2nds.

A current pick has always had more value than a future pick. Always.

14 hours ago, ManuManu said:

No, not always. Just this year the Jets told Dallas they wanted their 2027 1 instead of the 2026 1. The Jaguars discussed trading their 1 next year for a late 1 this year plus a day 2 pick.

Howie himself said it was a market inefficiency trading current picks for future picks in higher rounds. It’s why he has done it so infrequently. Times are changing.

14 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

always.

So anyway, at what point does time value degradation become enough for you to reconsider? Are you going to take a 2062 1st over a 2nd this year? Like, where do you draw the line then?

14 hours ago, ManuManu said:

You can only trade three years out. So let me ask you this: would you trade your 2029 first for a 2027 3?

14 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I understand that, but there has always been time value degradation. Always.

Technically the 2029 1st is equal value to the 2027 3rd.

JFC HE, you are over thinking this.

The reason you see someone get a higher future pick (like a future 4th for a current 5th) is because it gives the team who is trading away the pick guaranteed value. You have no idea if a team was absolute dog 💩 one year will have a great season the next year. (See Washington 2023 vs 2024) Therefore the team trading away the pick to a bad team could end up in a worse position if they trade for a future pick in the same round.

So a first is a first is a first, no matter what year. The only difference is the talent available from year to year.

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Such annoying scheduling. I was hoping the Flyers game wouldn't be until Sunday.

Agreed. So effing stupid. SMH

43 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

And a big issue besides 0 experience is these international guys don't love football. They are trying to find a way to use their athletic gifts to make money. I respect that but it's hard to make it and fight through it all if you don't love the game. I think Mailata eventually fell in love with it which again is unusual

Great points. These dudes don't grow up loving and watching Football every week. Nothing wrong with that. It's just what it is.

I've never watched or played Cricket before, but if I could make some money playing it for a few years, then I would.

Your Sports/Athletic Life is short, so, get what you can out of it. JMO

45 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

James-Newby is the only lefty.

Cole Payton is a left handed QB

12 minutes ago, paco said:

JFC HE, you are over thinking this.

The reason you see someone get a higher future pick (like a future 4th for a current 5th) is because it gives the team who is trading away the pick guaranteed value. You have no idea if a team was absolute dog 💩 one year will have a great season the next year. (See Washington 2023 vs 2024) Therefore the team trading away the pick to a bad team could end up in a worse position if they trade for a future pick in the same round.

So a first is a first is a first, no matter what year. The only difference is the talent available from year to year.

Yeah. That makes sense. But its a two way street. So now look at from the other team's perspective. Why is this year's pick more valuable to them?

10 minutes ago, paco said:

JFC HE, you are over thinking this.

The reason you see someone get a higher future pick (like a future 4th for a current 5th) is because it gives the team who is trading away the pick guaranteed value. You have no idea if a team was absolute dog 💩 one year will have a great season the next year. (See Washington 2023 vs 2024) Therefore the team trading away the pick to a bad team could end up in a worse position if they trade for a future pick in the same round.

So a first is a first is a first, no matter what year. The only difference is the talent available from year to year.

GMs without job security will always value current-year picks over future ones. That's where "Always" applies.

GMs with job security will take advantage and do what's best for the franchise in the long-term. What is more valuable? A second-round talent on a four-year deal or a first-round talent on a five-year deal.

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Cole Payton is a left handed QB

He's a fraud.

1 hour ago, Eagles1960 said:

Eagles should officially announce the UDFA signings since rookie camp started. They should have done it yesterday.

50 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

James-Newby is the only lefty.

Cole Payton goes both ways?

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

That's why MCW made a lot of sense being 6"3" with the size to cover TEs or play in the box.

Wis is similar in that way.

MCW would look good next to Noel in the backfield.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

GMs without job security will always value current-year picks over future ones. That's where "Always" applies.

GMs with job security will take advantage and do what's best for the franchise in the long-term. What is more valuable? A second-round talent on a four-year deal or a first-round talent on a five-year deal.

There is something you guys are missing though. And I know you can only trade picks so many years ahead. But, hypothetically, youre saying if a GM has security, even a 1st round pick 10 years form now is better than this years 2nd.

Lets also think about this aspect- If a team is not willing to give up a 1st THIS year, what makes them willing to give up a first Next year? According to you guys, they are the same. A 1st is a 1st. The league is showing you that is not correct. The league is showing you that they value future 1sts less. 

And that is another reason why Howie may take this years 2nd if given the option.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He's a fraud.

Maybe he's amphibious.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

No idea who any of them are. There were 2 of them and they Fd it up

Probably still drunk from celebrating

Just now, NCiggles said:

Probably still drunk from celebrating

celebrating what?

12 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Just tried looking up the age of Uar Bernard and Google is saying born in 2004 or 2005 with no actual month or day?

We really have no idea how old this guy is then. That jacked and athletic from a 3rd world country, he could be in his late 20s.

You think because you can’t find him on a quick google search and he’s from Nigeria that they don’t know when he was born?

4 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Pretty even assessment of Hurts here by Tommy although he does appear guilty of drinking the cool-aid Tice and Harmon were serving talking up how Mannion can cut out the middle of the field to fit Hurts' abilities. Which would be a terrible thing, and more of the same.

https://igglesblitz.com/

He talks about how he wasnt doing well in Alabama's pro style offense and went to Oklahoma where they ran the air raid. Surprising how Kingsbury never seems high on their list when thats the only offense Hurts turly looks good in.

Interesting parallel drawn between Hurts and Cunningham regarding coachability. Tommy says Hurts is more coachable, but I dont think we know that. We assumed that until little by little more comes out about him being resistant to coaching over the years...

Riley runs an offense that has aspects of the Air Raid but isn’t totally. Note that Hurts, Lemon and Hollywood Brown all thrived under Riley. I strongly suspect we will see the vertical layering and use of motion to assist the team in getting receivers open that Riley employs in the Mannion scheme. It’s ridiculous to think that Hurts can’t throw over the middle. Statistically turnovers most occur in the short middle of the field so it makes sense to limit throws to that area. As they incorporate more play action, somebody get Hurts a copy of Kenny Anderson’s book. Still the best at play action I ever saw.