3 hours ago, eglz1 said:

How can something like that be comfortably reported?

Just wait for the report they are actually swingers

13 minutes ago, TEW said:

The most noticeable difference between the Reid era and the Howie 2.0 era, and Howie's more recent success, is a shift from upper classman with high production but limited physical characteristics to underclassman and more raw prospects with elite physical characteristics.

It's worked.

Sometimes people over complicate the draft. Focus on elite athletes, then move your rankings around based on intangibles and development level. A guy with elite physical traits and high work ethic but raw skills is simply more likely to succeed at the NFL level than a guy with high work ethic and highly developed skills but mediocre physical traits.

I think the Eagles have emphsasized athletic traits for later round for awhile. Mailata and Sweat are good examples. I think we see the bigger changes is in the first 2 rounds. In my view, the Reagor miss was part of the catalyst for this change. The move is towards consensus ranking but I think they do focus on difference making athletic ability. Arguably, Devonta Smith is a good example of picking the consensus player over the freakbeast measurables.

52 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

To comment on how corporate entities function in situations like the Diana Russini fiasco...they dont care about her or what she did. They care about their liability.

One one hand, you could fire or force-resign a female employee who had a spurious but undefined relationship with someone who may or may not impact her ability to do her job. There is liability and exposure in pulling that trigger. On the other hand, you have the fallout of NOT pulling that trigger. This also has PR implications.

That's all the matters to the Athletic. Not what actually happened, not the "right thing." It's what limits liability and mitigates bad press and angry customers (someone is going to be pissed at them either way).

I don't blame them for it either. This is just how it goes when you have an employee that does something stupid.

They do care if their employees lie to them during an internal investigation after peddling that same lie to the general public, especially for a company where credibility is the product that's being sold.

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think the Eagles have emphsasized athletic traits for later round for awhile. Mailata and Sweat are good examples. I think we see the bigger changes is in the first 2 rounds. In my view, the Reagor miss was part of the catalyst for this change. The move is towards consensus ranking but I think they do focus on difference making athletic ability. Arguably, Devonta Smith is a good example of picking the consensus player over the freakbeast measurables.

Parsons was really the only alternative to Smith. We had a glaring need at WR, and Parsons wasn't a clear pass rusher coming out of the draft as he played MLB in college. Also, I would say Smith does have some elite physical traits with his feet, quickness, and body control. Sure they're measurable by the combine, but he's a pretty great athlete despite not being Megatron.

23 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They do care if their employees lie to them during an internal investigation after peddling that same lie to the general public, especially for a company where credibility is the product that's being sold.

Nah. These decisions are made based on weighing liability against liability. Credibility is a distant third.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Nah. These decisions are made based on weighing liability against liability. Credibility is a distant third.

Credibility is a distant third for one of the most prominent companies in the journalism industry? Yep, totally makes sense!

29 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

They do care if their employees lie to them during an internal investigation after peddling that same lie to the general public, especially for a company where credibility is the product that's being sold.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Nah. These decisions are made based on weighing liability against liability. Credibility is a distant third.

My take - she was already on thin ice and multiple ppl didn’t like her. She did this crap. The Athletic’s legal team took a few days to make sure it was very unlikely that she could successfully sue them and boom she’s gone.

Or they did this whole thing to get more clicks because Russini’s about to make this about sexism, which she probably has a solid case.

Either way, @hputenis drinks his own pee

I just got done listening to Howie's presser. I think a lot of us (myself included) might want to re-think our mock simulators and predictions. I can tell you right now unless there is an OL they love at 23 they aren't going to take one just to take one. Howie made it crystal clear that the days of drafting to fill needs are long gone. Obviously they might still go OL but I'm not sure they do so unless they trade up for someone they really like and I think the odds are far better of them drafting elsewhere.

19 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

My take - she was already on thin ice and multiple ppl didn’t like her. She did this crap. The Athletic’s legal team took a few days to make sure it was very unlikely that she could successfully sue them and boom she’s gone.

Or they did this whole thing to get more clicks because Russini’s about to make this about sexism, which she probably has a solid case.

Either way, @hputenis drinks his own pee

Agree with most of this, but not the sexism part. If it was Rapaport pushing the AJ Brown story all this time and pictures came out of him and Vrabel on the golf course putting back beers and having a "boys day out”, I’d still have the same concern about agendas and lack of integrity.

The infidelity just adds another layer of scuminess to the impropriety.

16 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I just got done listening to Howie's presser. I think a lot of us (myself included) might want to re-think our mock simulators and predictions. I can tell you right now unless there is an OL they love at 23 they aren't going to take one just to take one. Howie made it crystal clear that the days of drafting to fill needs are long gone. Obviously they might still go OL but I'm not sure they do so unless they trade up for someone they really like and I think the odds are far better of them drafting elsewhere.

So your take on Howie’s presser is that they may or may not draft an OL in the 1st? Is there a way I can input that brilliance into DraftKings?

12 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Agree with most of this, but not the sexism part. If it was Rapaport pushing the AJ Brown story all this time and pictures came out of him and Vrabel on the golf course putting back beers and having a "boys day out”, I’d still have the same concern about agendas and lack of integrity.

The infidelity just adds another layer of scuminess to the impropriety.

Do you agree with the last part? and if so…..does it make you feel a little different? And if so….should I have @EaglePhan1986 get his extra heavy duty 20’x40’ ProTarp out from his trailer just to test the waters?

37 minutes ago, hputenis said:

So your take on Howie’s presser is that they may or may not draft an OL in the 1st? Is there a way I can input that brilliance into DraftKings?

I’ll go further than that. I say Howie will or will not draft an OL in the first.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

I just got done listening to Howie's presser. I think a lot of us (myself included) might want to re-think our mock simulators and predictions. I can tell you right now unless there is an OL they love at 23 they aren't going to take one just to take one. Howie made it crystal clear that the days of drafting to fill needs are long gone. Obviously they might still go OL but I'm not sure they do so unless they trade up for someone they really like and I think the odds are far better of them drafting elsewhere.

We brought in Ioane, Lomu, Iheanachor and Bisontis for a visit. All have been mocked in the first round, though the latter two have variance into the 2nd round. That's more than any other position for a potential first round pick. I also wouldn't rule out Proctor based on physical characteristics.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

Nah. These decisions are made based on weighing liability against liability. Credibility is a distant third.

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Credibility is a distant third for one of the most prominent companies in the journalism industry? Yep, totally makes sense!

Yeah, E45 is way off here. Maybe in other businesses he’s spot on but not this one. This is a fireable offense 100 percent of the time with any news organization that values credibility.

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

With 12 visits left, it feels like there’s still a lot of ground to cover.

15 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

With 12 visits left, it feels like there’s still a lot of ground to cover.

Maybe a closer look at the small school guys: EMW, Hurst, Proctor, Demmings.

Maybe some cusp 1st round edges: Lawrence, Howell, Young. Some Day 2 TEs.

We have a fairly large scouting staff, so the gaps to close might be smaller so there’s likely some brinkmanship about tipping your hand on some of these guys if the interest is real. But yeah aside from OL…

28 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

With 12 visits left, it feels like there’s still a lot of ground to cover.

Those are just the visits leaked. Today is the last day for visits. Eagles have their local pro day today.

7 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

I’ll go further than that. I say Howie will or will not draft an OL in the first.

But he will 100% draft someone in one or more rounds.

6 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Yeah, E45 is way off here. Maybe in other businesses he’s spot on but not this one. This is a fireable offense 100 percent of the time with any news organization that values credibility.

In any business, credibility/reputation/aptitude/etc are longitudinal aspirations. To some, it's everything, to other, lip service. But liability and exposure are acute, defining concerns in situations like this that trump the rest, every time.

Firing a female reporter in a male dominated field for holding hands with a coach comes with liability. "Fireable offense" is a moving target. They no doubt evaluated that and reached an agreement that culminated in her resignation.

And these people are reporting on the AJ Brown trade, not the Gaza Strip. People tune in for a scoop, not integrity.

16 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Dianni Russini resigned from The Atlhetic.

No doubt she was told to resign. If she didn't, she would have gotten fired.

NSFW

Spoiler

18 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Joy Division/New Order is a well deserved given their influence and the quality of their albums. Oasis was always overrated bland drivel. I can see with Maiden and Idol deserve it.

Oasis are funny one. Kind of bland and a Beatles/Bolan rip off, but their first 2 albums are very good and their impact on music for a period of time was large (outside of America) - but everything after Be Here Now is meh and gets worse as records go on. There is plenty to argue that they are more worthy than Joan Jett (as an example) having sold 100m records worldwide and their recent tour (expensive nostalgia ripoff ) made large amounts of money ($400m revenue) in part to pay off Noel's latest divorce.

9 hours ago, T-1000 said:

I just got done listening to Howie's presser. I think a lot of us (myself included) might want to re-think our mock simulators and predictions. I can tell you right now unless there is an OL they love at 23 they aren't going to take one just to take one. Howie made it crystal clear that the days of drafting to fill needs are long gone. Obviously they might still go OL but I'm not sure they do so unless they trade up for someone they really like and I think the odds are far better of them drafting elsewhere.

I'm sure whoever Howie picks, he'll frame it as BPA. But in terms of hard lessons learned:

Derek Barnett -> weighing production far ahead of traits

Jalen Reagor -> weighing traits far ahead of production

Marcus Smith -> picking for need, being passive vs trading up

Andre Dillard -> caveat emptor on some falling players

Sidney Jones -> caveat emptor taking the injury discount

Danny Watkins -> making sure guys like football and will older players look as good at the next level

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

In any business, credibility/reputation/aptitude/etc are longitudinal aspirations. To some, it's everything, to other, lip service. But liability and exposure are acute, defining concerns in situations like this that trump the rest, every time.

Firing a female reporter in a male dominated field for holding hands with a coach comes with liability. "Fireable offense" is a moving target. They no doubt evaluated that and reached an agreement that culminated in her resignation.

And these people are reporting on the AJ Brown trade, not the Gaza Strip. People tune in for a scoop, not integrity.

Yeah, I don’t think she’s getting fired for just holding hands. Obviously they have more info than we do. The liability that you’re talking about is essentially zero. It’s about her credibility now damaging their credibility.

I have a journalism degree. I worked for newspapers. I ran sports departments. I had to work with HR during hiring and firings (nothing like this to be fair). I promise what she’s been accused of (and likely discovered early in this investigation) is a fireable offense without hesitation. Russini knows that, which is why she resigned on the flimsiest excuse ever. You’re just wrong here.

14 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I'm sure whoever Howie picks, he'll frame it as BPA. But in terms of hard lessons learned:

Derek Barnett -> weighing production far ahead of traits

Jalen Reagor -> weighing traits far ahead of production

Marcus Smith -> picking for need, being passive vs trading up

Andre Dillard -> caveat emptor on some falling players

Sidney Jones -> caveat emptor taking the injury discount

Danny Watkins -> making sure guys like football and will older players look as good at the next level

people were saying that Jones pick was such a steal