2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t really have enough dogs in this fight to continue it, but I’m curious how many legal meetings you had to sit in reviewing the exposure of those hirings and firings including the downstream lawsuits. HR is just the messenger.

Hundreds. My job included responsibility for employment claims under the insurance coverage we offered. I had some good friends in HR (because they interacted with my red head dream before she left when our second was born). They would honestly tell you that the hardest department for them when they presented "don’t do this” training was ours because we knew the exposures and defenses better than they did. But HR isn’t just the messenger for the organization, they have their own messages too. (How else would they justify all the seminars they attend).

Unlike @ManuManu , I do not have a journalism degree nor any professional experience other than overseeing libel (and slander) and defamation cases. But I do have a Communication minor for those semesters I thought about journalism and Radio/TV as a future. So I am familiar with the ethics of the profession. I am also familiar with the flexibility of boundaries. Different publications, different applications. Yea the legal department is involved but so is the editorial board.

4 minutes ago, Peppersmacks said:

I feel like Georgia alone produces an athletic freak RT with limited playing experience every year.

Yup - Mims was who I was thinking of. Broderick Jones might have gone a little earlier (maybe too early).

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I would like to see a list of potential X receivers who can beat press coverage and will block. That’s what McVay and the Shanny tree want.

There are minimal Xs in this class whatsoever. So thats a tough one. Thats why its lacking elite talent.

Tyson can be an X but lacks physicality.

Boston is a potential X but lacks separation.

Ideally both of those guys are Y and Smith is our new X here.

Fields looks like an X. His speed downfield is knocked after the combine but he gets deep and comes down with it. AJ isnt the fastest and is a great deep threat. I know he still a 4.4 guy and Fields ran a 4.6. Burress was a 4.6 guy and was a great deep threat. Hines Ward got open anywhere. Larry Fitzgerald. I think Fields will shock everyone and be a do it all dominant size mismatch X. I love the idea though of using him as a move guy like Pittman was used by Indy.

Hurst can be an X.

Getting more limited now

Chris Bell could become one but is going to need to be schemed open early in his career. Probably needs to be a slot, or a move guy. A little scary how raw he is.

Id agree Brazzell is just a linear X as Harmon says. I dont think he becomes more.

Probably Lance will be too, but I still think he is developing. Harmon said so too. And I think Lance is SO good as the deep threat, he will change the way defenses have to play. Worth it despite any perceived limitation in his game.

Ja'Kobi Lane is so worthless I hate to even include him in the list but, I guess if he ever played in the NFL he would line up at X...

Getting later, the two Texas Tech WRs are X and may outperform some of these guys. Douglas, and Virgil.

Probably UDFA

DeCorian Clark from UTSA looks like he could have been the runaway #1 WR in this draft and maybe a bunch of other classes as well.

Kajiya Hallawayne from temple is a poor mans Clark.

Out of that small list of potential Xs, guys who block and beat press narrows it down more.

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I just don't see it with Klare. He's too inconsistent and I don't think he can block particularly well.

Delp better be a better blocker than Sadiq considering he has 3 seasons with about 20 receptions under his belt. TE2 written all over him.

Royer seems more like an H back. Good build and speed but really doesn't have anything to offer other than wheel routes and underneath stuff. Again 29 receptions total...meh. Good athlete. Mid TE. Maybe the only other guy I can see getting there but it takes a lot of projection.

Raridon is similar in that he looks good with the ball in his hands, but his receiving seems very limited. TE2 type.

Boerkircher is an incredible blocker. He has caught 38 TOTAL passes in 6 years of college ball.

The production thing is tricking you. There are often athletic TEs who arent used a lot in the passing game.

Im pretty positive Kittle was one of those guys who hardly got targeted in college.

26 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I like Howell but I don’t see him being a Fangio type.

I think youre right. They like heavy handed edge guys. Thats Zion Young but he wont be on the board with legal issues. Jacas, Moore

Nolan Smith was small, but could rock an OL with power. Graham has that power. Sweat had it. Jalyx Hunt had it. Zadarius Smith, and Phillips had the strength.

Its one reason why I keep saying theyll love Jacas. The other is that, despite being 6'5'' 265, he can move in space and demonstrated the ability to drop at Illinois. Hes an eagles edge through and through.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

There are minimal Xs in this class whatsoever. So thats a tough one. Thats why its lacking elite talent.

Tyson can be an X but lacks physicality.

Boston is a potential X but lacks separation.

Ideally both of those guys are Y and Smith is our new X here.

Fields looks like an X. His speed downfield is knocked after the combine but he gets deep and comes down with it. AJ isnt the fastest and is a great deep threat. I know he still a 4.4 guy and Fields ran a 4.6. Burress was a 4.6 guy and was a great deep threat. Hines Ward got open anywhere. Larry Fitzgerald. I think Fields will shock everyone and be a do it all dominant size mismatch X. I love the idea though of using him as a move guy like Pittman was used by Indy.

Hurst can be an X.

Getting more limited now

Chris Bell could become one but is going to need to be schemed open early in his career. Probably needs to be a slot, or a move guy. A little scary how raw he is.

Id agree Brazzell is just a linear X as Harmon says. I dont think he becomes more.

Probably Lance will be too, but I still think he is developing. Harmon said so too. And I think Lance is SO good as the deep threat, he will change the way defenses have to play. Worth it despite any perceived limitation in his game.

Ja'Kobi Lane is so worthless I hate to even include him in the list but, I guess if he ever played in the NFL he would line up at X...

Getting later, the two Texas Tech WRs are X and may outperform some of these guys. Douglas, and Virgil.

Probably UDFA

DeCorian Clark from UTSA looks like he could have been the runaway #1 WR in this draft and maybe a bunch of other classes as well.

Kajiya Hallawayne from temple is a poor mans Clark.

I wonder if Concepcion could be an X here. He doesn’t have prototypical size but he destroyed press coverage.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I wonder if Concepcion could be an X here. He doesn’t have prototypical size but he destroyed press coverage.

Yeah.... there are other guys who can develop and show that ability despite lacking typical X size. Hard for us at home to project such a thing when so many of those guys in this draft have played such a vast majority of their snaps in the slot and being targeted almost exclusively on short routes.

3 hours ago, NOTW said:

I think that happens with drafting a safety and Edge, maybe a corner or other position they like for depth and future development. Just probably not in the first couple rounds.

Lawrence in rd 2 fits the plan

I think they will love the oregon safety

Watch it be all defense again. Theres my non conformist take

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

The production thing is tricking you. There are often athletic TEs who arent used a lot in the passing game.

Im pretty positive Kittle was one of those guys who hardly got targeted in college.

Very true, but Kittle is a unicorn. He went in the 5th because of it.

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Very true, but Kittle is a unicorn. He went in the 5th because of it.

If you found a guy who blocks, and is athletic with receiving production, he is also a unicorn and wont be available for us at 23, or any later round. You should still be able to pick out the good talents in each round.

10 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you found a guy who blocks, and is athletic with receiving production, he is also a unicorn and wont be available for us at 23, or any later round. You should still be able to pick out the good talents in each round.

This year maybe. When we drafted him Goedert had all that and went at 49 to us.

Just now, DEagle7 said:

This year maybe. When we drafted him Goedert had all that and went at 49 to us.

he had the major small school question mark though. that brings in to question how he would block NFL athletes, and get open against them.

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

This year maybe. When we drafted him Goedert had all that and went at 49 to us.

Forgot, one of my sleepers for you. Carsen Ryan from BYU. Played over 50% of his snaps in line. 6'4'' 250, and ran a 4.66 at his pro day. Productive receiver. Good size and speed. excellent PFF run blocking grade.

It's amazing how variable the draft is short term.

In 2024, the Eagles had one of the best year 1 contributions from a draft class in NFL history.

In 2025...I don't mean to throw much shade at Campbell and Mukuba; they could end up being multi-pro-bowl decade long starters. But in year 1, they really got almost absolutely zero from the draft class. Mukuba was essentially a replacement level safety, as evidenced by the arguably incremental improvement by injecting a literal replacement safety in Epps as his replacement. Campbell filled in for a while and did a nice job while Dean was hurt. Was he probably better than Trott Jr would have been? Probably.

I say that because, even if they make the right picks, there's no way to bank on really getting anything from a rookie draft class in 2026.

Seems a lock they will draft a TE. Even if he doesn't become TE1, if he's a quality TE2 that's still good. Calcaterra sucks.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

They keep doing it to me. Not a guy Im thrilled to see.

He's 25. If you think he can be a more well rounded Calcaterra? Fine. But I'm not touching that archetype before the 5th.

Some context to the Alexander situation

20 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

One of my day 3 sleepers

Also, it’s getting harder to believe Ravens operate in good faith between Alexander and Crosby.

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Also, it’s getting harder to believe Ravens operate in good faith between Alexander and Crosby.

Agreed. I want a draft pick back from them. And from the Patriots.

I also want a draft pick from Mannion whether he is fired or promoted with a new team. He owes us for this Wicks trade.

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

Seems a lock they will draft a TE. Even if he doesn't become TE1, if he's a quality TE2 that's still good. Calcaterra sucks.

We should draft more than one

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

We should draft more than one

I think people are a little too harsh on Calc based on the coaches using him wrongly last year. Hes a fine #3 receiving TE. He just cant block. I think between him and Mundt you have whichever flavor you want and you can live with either as TE3.

I think we can draft 1, if we draft the right one. If we get someone like Roush... wellll then youre going to want a second one drafted who actually has some athletic upside.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

There are minimal Xs in this class whatsoever. So thats a tough one. Thats why its lacking elite talent.

Tyson can be an X but lacks physicality.

Boston is a potential X but lacks separation.

Ideally both of those guys are Y and Smith is our new X here.

Fields looks like an X. His speed downfield is knocked after the combine but he gets deep and comes down with it. AJ isnt the fastest and is a great deep threat. I know he still a 4.4 guy and Fields ran a 4.6. Burress was a 4.6 guy and was a great deep threat. Hines Ward got open anywhere. Larry Fitzgerald. I think Fields will shock everyone and be a do it all dominant size mismatch X. I love the idea though of using him as a move guy like Pittman was used by Indy.

Hurst can be an X.

Getting more limited now

Chris Bell could become one but is going to need to be schemed open early in his career. Probably needs to be a slot, or a move guy. A little scary how raw he is.

Id agree Brazzell is just a linear X as Harmon says. I dont think he becomes more.

Probably Lance will be too, but I still think he is developing. Harmon said so too. And I think Lance is SO good as the deep threat, he will change the way defenses have to play. Worth it despite any perceived limitation in his game.

Ja'Kobi Lane is so worthless I hate to even include him in the list but, I guess if he ever played in the NFL he would line up at X...

Getting later, the two Texas Tech WRs are X and may outperform some of these guys. Douglas, and Virgil.

Probably UDFA

DeCorian Clark from UTSA looks like he could have been the runaway #1 WR in this draft and maybe a bunch of other classes as well.

Kajiya Hallawayne from temple is a poor mans Clark.

Out of that small list of potential Xs, guys who block and beat press narrows it down more.

This is where it becomes very important that Mannion is the real deal and that he interfaces well with Howie. From the outside looking in, we really don't know what "fits" are anymore for this offense. OL, WR, TE...QB. They have to draft accordingly.